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TOPIC: E state question |
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| MccElite
July 26, 2012
7:17:41 AM
Entry #: 3952665
| I was looking at the brackets and saw that some of the wed night teams r playing state..who has the best shot to win there first round games and who should go the furthest do you guys think out if: young guns,area319,abt,encore,and cr ball
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| swing4thefences
July 26, 2012
8:28:13 AM
Entry #: 3952709
| CR Balls is going to be playing D state this year. ABT always has a solid E team so they will be there on Sunday more than likely. Also Area 319 will be out there. Watched them put a hurting on Young Guns last night 17-7
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| thegreatbambino
July 26, 2012
8:37:42 AM
Entry #: 3952717
| Who cares about E State? It's obviously a joke
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| MccElite
July 26, 2012
8:53:47 AM
Entry #: 3952730
| So area 319 is the best team?
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| swing4thefences
July 26, 2012
8:57:27 AM
Entry #: 3952732
| When it comes to tournament time it isn't the best team that always wins...it is the team that can catch a hot streak and keep it rolling. But from the teams in the CR area...I would go with ABT or Area 319
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| MccElite
July 26, 2012
9:01:06 AM
Entry #: 3952733
| No hr in e right? So it takes skill nothing but pure hitters
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| thegreatbambino
July 26, 2012
9:14:54 AM
Entry #: 3952741
| I would say Teds, ABT, 319, Powershack all have a decent shot to win it
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| swing4thefences
July 26, 2012
9:28:49 AM
Entry #: 3952753
| A home run in E ends the inning. But I am not sure about your pure hitter comment...guys that can hit home runs can spray line drives also
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| thegreatbambino
July 26, 2012
9:33:01 AM
Entry #: 3952756
| Throw in CR Fire as well. They have a damn good team as well
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| philabong
July 26, 2012
10:17:31 AM
Entry #: 3952788
| yep thats what E is all about pure hitters. thanks buddy that comment made my day i'll b chuckling bout that one all day. E softball is for guys that work together and just wanna have a relationship outside of work oh and have to borrow gloves to play
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| TBone314
July 26, 2012
10:40:28 AM
Entry #: 3952796
| From the CR teams I see ABT, Busch League, CR Fire, Pioneers, or Area 319 in the finals. I'd guess the oldest team will win it.
I got a laugh out of the "pure hitters" comment. However, I wonder if philabong has lost to one of these lowly sandbagging teams in the last year or so? I have a pretty good memory...
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| MccElite
July 26, 2012
11:27:24 AM
Entry #: 3952821
| From how good ur making these cr teams sound they should b playing c or d...sandbaggers
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| thegreatbambino
July 26, 2012
11:31:01 AM
Entry #: 3952822
| Apparently if you can tie your shoes, wear your glove on the correct hand, and run the right direction on the base paths, you shouldn't be playing E
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| rob_white
July 26, 2012
11:49:53 AM
Entry #: 3952832
| I did play with my shorts up to my armpits last night and I kept hitting balls with the handle vs. the barrel.
I'm a certified E player at best that's for sure and the older I get the worse I get.
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| thegreatbambino
July 26, 2012
12:04:19 PM
Entry #: 3952840
| Which direction were you running?
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| rob_white
July 26, 2012
12:19:23 PM
Entry #: 3952845
| I also tipped a ball hit right at me and that counts for something.
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| IAR55
July 26, 2012
12:21:50 PM
Entry #: 3952848
| Rob you make me laugh, wish I could have seen that one.
ABT, Area 319, CR Fire, and Busch League are the teams to watch.
I like the weather forecast too, since its been so damn hot. Good luck everyone.
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| DubO17
July 26, 2012
1:07:33 PM
Entry #: 3952892
| According to Philabong we arent "sandbaggers" we are "window lickers" ?
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| NdaMixwithCJ
July 26, 2012
4:25:45 PM
Entry #: 3952999
| IF we hit, I think we got a shot...hit TERRIBLE at districts and still went 2-2
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| philabong
July 26, 2012
7:35:29 PM
Entry #: 3953089
| rob white u r a legit e player bud.
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| rob_white
July 26, 2012
10:34:16 PM
Entry #: 3953168
| E is for Excellence
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| pitch47
July 27, 2012
10:29:53 AM
Entry #: 3953339
| The team that Powershack is playing, Humps Revolution, will probably win. They have already defeated Powershack a few times in Utrip. They are one of the most solid teams from clinton. I think they got 5th in d state last year and are ranked 5th in utrip (look it up). Im from Clinton but live here now, so I know the teams well. There are some good teams coming up. I think four in total. Humps, Midaway blaze (my team) and Bonnies prolly the best from clinton. What I find interesting, is the fact that some of the cr teams play in the top division here, but play e state? Whatever the case good luck to all. Lets play hard, but lets remember sportsmanship, because i've seen it go out the window several times.
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| swing4thefences
July 27, 2012
10:40:31 AM
Entry #: 3953349
| What I find interested is a team that got 5th at D state dropping down and playing E the next season.
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| SD26
July 27, 2012
10:51:41 AM
Entry #: 3953359
| Good damn point swing4thefences lol!
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| NdaMixwithCJ
July 27, 2012
11:08:08 AM
Entry #: 3953366
| they were Joensy's Revolution last year...they got 5th, but it was at E state in Burlington...real solid team..we played them at the Wolfpack tourney last year and got schooled...there left side picked EVERYTHING
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| pitch47
July 27, 2012
11:08:43 AM
Entry #: 3953367
| Trust me bro, they are all my friends, and I was trash talking the shit out of them for playing down. They are clearly a D level team with some players that would prolly be ranked C. It doesn't make sense to me. Maybe karma will get them and they will go two and out. My team is praying we get a chance to knock them out to prove a point. Its kinda funny, they got 5th in d, drop to e, so what happens if they dont win e? Guess they will have to settle for no that good lol. The u trip ranking I was talking about was E level, but fifth in the whole state.
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| pitch47
July 27, 2012
11:15:06 AM
Entry #: 3953371
| They get down on themselves though, so if you get up on them early they tend to self destruct.
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| rob_white
July 27, 2012
11:23:51 AM
Entry #: 3953377
| I think we will see a plethora of teams playing E this weekend that should be playing D state. We played the Open League and secured the last place spot with relative ease. Did we compete in a lot of the games, yes, we did and lost several by a 1 or 2 runs. On the other hand we got run ruled in a lot of games but we moved people around a lot and went back and forth on the 5 man a lot.
I'm not sure how they played D state last year and are now playing E and I'd hate for them to get disqualified this late in the game.
On that note, I'm sure it won't get brought up unless they win because nobody cares if they go 0-2. Then at that point does that validate them as a E team? Thus the conundrum we put ourselves in with this classification fun :)
Good luck to all this weekend and I'll see ya at the ball park
MERICA...yee haw mofo's
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| thegreatbambino
July 27, 2012
11:45:47 AM
Entry #: 3953390
| Not that I really care but, if this team placed 5th at D State last year, and have a good chunk of the same guys back and lowered their class, they will likely get DQ'd. That's just stupid on their part
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| alllday13
July 27, 2012
11:53:36 AM
Entry #: 3953392
| They didn't play D last year. Pitch47 ur an idiot!
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| Rosetothehall
July 27, 2012
12:21:56 PM
Entry #: 3953410
| You mean to tell me that there are teams that went from D to E? And there are players that have been playing the game for 4+ years playing E?
I might just have to come out and check this out this weekend. Be sure to tell me high at the bat check and player check in.
Jonathan Morrow
Good Luck to all E teams from CR this weekend. I will be pulling for all of you to get in the top 6.
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| thegreatbambino
July 27, 2012
12:28:38 PM
Entry #: 3953414
| Morrow, I have a question for you about bats. One of my bats has a pretty decent sized paint chip towards the end of the bat...I was told that it could be illegal? Is there truth to this?
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| Rosetothehall
July 27, 2012
12:51:55 PM
Entry #: 3953424
| Kind of depends on the Umpire. I honestly wouldnt have a problem with it if it passes compression test. But Super State and beyond will more than likely have a problem with it.
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| thegreatbambino
July 27, 2012
12:58:22 PM
Entry #: 3953429
| Damn...Ok thanks for the heads up
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| DubO17
July 27, 2012
1:44:44 PM
Entry #: 3953447
| Pitch47 - Powershack beat jonesys the only time we played them this year. http://www.usssa.com/sports/Tournament3.asp?TournamentID=830303
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| DubO17
July 27, 2012
1:47:26 PM
Entry #: 3953451
| They are also a D USSSA not E ranked right behind Powershack in IOWA
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| philabong
July 27, 2012
2:49:12 PM
Entry #: 3953477
| Morrow the profesinal bat roller is doing the bat check in?? too funny. everyone knows if you want to illegally roll ur bat morrow is the man
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| JB02
July 27, 2012
3:01:40 PM
Entry #: 3953485
| Morrow you should try to get Oneil to do what I'm doing with E up here. E is supposed to be for rec or teams just starting out learning the game. First off, if that's what it's really for then don't have nationals and rake in all the money off of teams that are just supposed to be "starting out". I just decided enough is enough and it's time to clean up the E division of teams playing their whole careers chasing a title or ring in a division meant to start out and learn the game.
This year at the conclusion of E districts I let Swarm and Team Advantage both know that regardless of how they do at state or nationals I was moving them both up to D. Swarm got 2nd last year at districts and won it this year. Advantage got 2nd this year after 4th I believe last year. They lost their 2nd game and made it back to lose the if game by 1 run. Both very good teams for E and more than capable of holding their own in D. Hopefully other commissioners will do the same or at least take a good look at it. It's pretty bad when each year the number of D teams cuts in half and the E teams double.
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| Rosetothehall
July 27, 2012
3:10:45 PM
Entry #: 3953487
| Your right...Ironic isnt it.
LOL
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| Rosetothehall
July 27, 2012
3:18:45 PM
Entry #: 3953488
| Thats kind of the idea. I understand what its like to play down. I did it for 2 years with Solbergs and am doing it again in USSSA this year. But really we are doing it under the rules that are set.
I guess I just dont care for E not because of the players or the teams and alot of what I say people take personally towards their team, and I have mispoke a time or two. (sorry Tbone314)
But E is killing C in Iowa. Thats not good. Last year 17 teams and this year 12. Really 11 because Jared through together a team BPI. It just disappointments me when guys that have been playing for years decide they must play at the lowest level to compete. Where the competitive spirit in working to get better? When I started playing we would go to Des Moines and get kicked around...alot. 0-2 Bar-BQ.
I dont just a difference in opinion I guess.
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| MccElite
July 27, 2012
3:20:17 PM
Entry #: 3953489
| anyone know anything bout orourke motors??
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| Scrimp Club
July 27, 2012
8:58:06 PM
Entry #: 3953610
| I don't see how E is hurting C at all. It's night and day the difference between E players and C players.
A lot of this is a volume issue. The volume of players at all levels in all types of softball is down and it's due to a variety of reasons...a lot of it being there just isn't the same love for the game in this generation as there was 10 years ago. Just the way it is.
I keep thinking about D state from the year 12" D Western Nationals was in CR (yes, the same year we forfeited out of nationals Sunday morning.)
I think the top 10 at state that year was Solberg's, Bill's Pizza, Quiznos, WW, TSF Cardinals, Storm, Bergen, Logan Comm, Sambetti's and maybe Sluggers or MIP/Bacardi. State was in WDM. I think there was also the Cedarloo Sox who finshed 2nd or 3rd in nationals that year along with WW, Solbergs, Quiznos and Bills Pizza who all finished top 12-16 in a 92 team national tournament.
I think the following year Third on First, Bergen and Solbergs all finished top 4 in Western Nationals in TX with 70+ teams in it.
Sorry to reminisce, I think my point was (I can't remember) that we had enough talent in this area to field an outstanding roster of quality and competitive teams both at the state and national levels. I just don't see the depth of talent in CR that used to exist. most of the guys on those teams have either hung it up, quit 12" for 16" or just got fed up with the politics, ego's, etc of the game.
No disrespect intended, but I'm not sure there's a team playing right now in CR with the exception of the Sugar Bears that would have cracked the top 5 of CR districts or top 8 at state back then. Hell, Tuesday night league was a dogfight in those days. Ask anyone off of the Wolfpack teams. They started out as Gametime and used to get banged out on a weekly basis but they kept at it and eventually won 2 D state titles.
So, while we still have guys like Bryce who are passionate about the game and will put in the work/effort to put together, manage, etc strong competitive teams and nice young teams like Tabu who seem like they want to keep improving and getting stronger...why are all of the "powers that be" so intent on killing off what's left of the guys that are still the die hard types?
I think the end of super competitive 12" teams in this town will come sooner than most think and it's a damn shame. Never thought 16" would outlive 12" in CR but it just might.
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| BillyHo#3
July 28, 2012
8:02:14 AM
Entry #: 3953682
| What I got from the comment "E is killing C" is this.... if everyone is dropping down to play E or breaking up to keep playing D there wont be any new teams to play C. Is that close to what you were getting at Rose??
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| DubO17
July 29, 2012
11:25:35 AM
Entry #: 3953979
| Its a National problem not just Iowa. To be competitive on a National level you have to play down because that's what teams do across the country. Nobody wants to go 0-2 in any tournament
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| cook #33
July 29, 2012
2:36:14 PM
Entry #: 3954041
| Sadly, this problem wont go away. Players will not always have the honesty to play where where they belong. And I am as guilty. After not having played 12' for the last 2 years, I played this weekends "E" tourney to help some friends out. And I heard the comment enough times that I should not be playing "E". And rightfully so. Not to be douchey or think bigger of myself. So I have all intentions to get myself classified to where I should be playing IF I decide to play 12' in the future and can get picked up by a D or C team. My apoligies for playing down, but I wanted to help my friends out. Hopefully players can ask for the challenge to request a move up to test themselves, not to be afraid to go 0-2 in a tourney
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| philabong
July 29, 2012
5:27:23 PM
Entry #: 3954079
| That cracks me up cook. I like yours and Rob Whites comments bout how u should b classified higher then e well guys I would say your probally playin at the right level at e. not tryin to b dooshy or anything. keep your chins up guys
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| philabong
July 29, 2012
6:07:50 PM
Entry #: 3954095
| dub o ur way off on that i'll let someone else explain it to ya tho
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| cook #33
July 29, 2012
10:22:10 PM
Entry #: 3954216
| ok bong, i will bite to your bs. Number 1- if you knew me as a person you wouldnt talk shit on a computer to me, just do face to face like a grown ass man. so when you wana do that, get at me. 2- im not new to ball and have done my fair share of damage at many levels. but your one of those chimps that splash keypads, but when it comes time to do work, you're nowhere to be found. im too old for kidshit bong, please believe me, and not to be played with about computer bs. you talk shit here all day, but in the end what/ did you win b/c/d state? all tourney in anything? when you know my past in athletics in the state of iowa, not just slow pitch, and your resume is better than me, than you can talk shit to me. otherwise, challenge me or f*uck off!
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