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TOPIC: New Serpent 720 |
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| dj
July 24, 2006
5:17:06 PM
Entry #: 1577598
| Just wanted to tell everyone that the new car is out and man it is awesome. I ran it at ft myers sunday for the first time and the new car is 10 times better than old car. Plus with the arms being right or left as well as other parts in is cheaper to keep spairs. See you guys when ever a new track opens. Also start coming to the state races they are fun.
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| tony
July 25, 2006
7:35:16 PM
Entry #: 1580411
| hey dj, you must be getting real good, because lately youre mug is in all of the rc magazines, i even seen you in one of ray woods rc videos, i guess this means when the new track opens up, your gonna be a dangerous man, i might have to use my eight scale just to keep up with youre ten scale!
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| dj
July 26, 2006
9:58:42 PM
Entry #: 1582939
| I am getting pretty good, but I still have a ways to go. I will definately be there when the new track opens. That way I can start practicing again and help those that want it.
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| RacerX
July 27, 2006
3:04:43 PM
Entry #: 1584504
| DJ..??good..??, that's an understatement. Raced against him many times at the old track, but I tell you, I'll get him this time... Look out DJ..:)
That is all...
RacerX
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| RoyalPalmrace
July 28, 2006
2:14:30 PM
Entry #: 1586768
| I also know there will be some very good competition at the new track. This track should have some excellent drivers going out. I know "The Sleeper" will be joining us. Kinda reminds me of the talent we had at Tropical plus all the new talented drivers as well. Should be a very good show and fast as heck!!!!
gentalmen this one should be good.
Let the races begin!
Andy
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| thierry
July 29, 2006
9:08:52 PM
Entry #: 1588615
| how much does the 720 cost i can't log on to shop serpent cuase my computer is wierd
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| tony
July 30, 2006
11:44:07 AM
Entry #: 1589074
| no thiery! there,s nothing wrong with your computer, for some strange reason i cant get into shopserpent myself on my computer or anybody elses
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| RoyalPalmrace
July 30, 2006
12:50:10 PM
Entry #: 1589129
| shopserpent will be up soon.. i think by next week.
sorry bout that..
Andy
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| RoyalPalmrace
July 30, 2006
1:00:00 PM
Entry #: 1589141
| ok what the heck.. let spice this up a bit.
DJ have you driven both the MTX 4 and the 720?
What are the biggest differences you see and feel between these 2 cars? I know the 720 is better than the 710 but how is the 720 compared to the mugen?
Andy
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| dj
July 31, 2006
11:40:28 AM
Entry #: 1590653
| I have never driven anyother car so I can not answer that question. I will say though that the new 720 is super strong, pretty easy to work on and holds it setting, and what more can you ask. Oh hey it work out of the box with the stock setting.
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| RoyalPalmrace
July 31, 2006
6:24:55 PM
Entry #: 1591811
| An easy to work with car is important. Thats great that it works right out of the box since a lot of drivers had difficulty with that aspect "any brand" . How does the 720 handle better than the 710?? did you notice a difference?
Andy
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| dj
July 31, 2006
8:09:03 PM
Entry #: 1592020
| Big difference. I have a lot more steering and more rotation with keeping to stability. Also when you do adjustment something, you can see the difference, with the 710 is was not as noticeable.
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| Pete
July 31, 2006
10:39:20 PM
Entry #: 1592289
| Hi DJ, I am leaning towards the 720, I hope you were serious about you offer to help setup the car. I race mugen in offroad, but with your great review of the 720 I am seriously considering getting one after the track opens. By the way, while on the subject, what do you recommend would be a competitive power source.
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| dj
August 1, 2006
11:50:46 AM
Entry #: 1593235
| I am very willing to help all that has a serpent 710 or 720 and wants to learn. I am also willing to have a seminar for those interested in learning about the 720, when the new track opens. We can arrange it with the track owners(who ever they are) and I will have classes on the 720, mega motors with clutch setting for the mega line. More to come in the future, once we have a track we can talk more.
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| thierry
August 1, 2006
12:01:32 PM
Entry #: 1593263
| well I've done my research on the 720 and it looks awesome but ive been also looking at the 835, my birthday is in september so i'm looking at 2 options the 720 with the power pack race legal or the 835 with the outlaw power pack keep in mind that this is going to be my first kit, but i'm a pretty experinced builder with 1/10 scale and full size which will be better
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| dj
August 1, 2006
12:57:20 PM
Entry #: 1593420
| Not sure where you would run that 835. the 835 class is dead in the florida area.
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| howard
August 1, 2006
2:00:37 PM
Entry #: 1593616
| dj is right, the fl state series is no longer running the outlaw class in 2006-2007. i have a impact-835 and it really needs a .15 big block engine to run properly, the smallblock does not have enough power as the 835 weighs alot more than a touring car.
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| RoyalPalmrace
August 1, 2006
2:12:53 PM
Entry #: 1593652
| Wow sounds like the 720 has what we always wanted and never had! great! Yes we will continue the seminars like we had at Royal Palm. Those seminars were a-lot of help to some people. We will probably cover both Serpent and Mugen in these seminars. DJ is more than welcome to hold a seminar on the 720.
Andy
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| thierry
August 1, 2006
2:19:46 PM
Entry #: 1593671
| then i guess i'll go with the 720 andy do you have the car and legal power pack avialble
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| RoyalPalmrace
August 2, 2006
5:00:45 PM
Entry #: 1596557
| Yes the 720 will be available by mid august.
new shipment comming in. We are taking in orders to reserve your 720 thru www.shopserpent.com
we have engines available now but no powerpacks.. however the engine plus pipe cost will be about same anyway.
The cars will be in on time for the new track
Andy
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| thierry
August 2, 2006
10:17:37 PM
Entry #: 1597159
| i can't log on to shop serpent but i'll stop by the track once it opens to reserve mine hopefully it's will be here when it's my b-day
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| lizard
August 3, 2006
3:34:34 PM
Entry #: 1598640
| This is Henry Delgado. I don't know why but my old log-in wouldn't work. So my new nickname is "lizard."
I got 3 Serpent 720's coming by next Wednesday at Warrick's. Call for prices, 954-370-0708
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| RoyalPalmrace
August 3, 2006
4:02:52 PM
Entry #: 1598720
| henry maybe you can have warrick buy banner space on this site????
Andy
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| RacerX
August 3, 2006
4:07:34 PM
Entry #: 1598733
| Henry, that's good news. I checked the website the other day and didn't see it listed. Would you happend to know a ball park price that you guys will be selling it at?
RacerX
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| Henry D
August 3, 2006
4:57:45 PM
Entry #: 1598829
| Alex; price for the 720 should be at around $400. Also we have the Mugen MTX4 at $399 in stock now
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| Henry D
August 3, 2006
5:08:13 PM
Entry #: 1598848
| Andy, Warrick's is already committed to making a substancial contribution to the new club track in Homestead. This is for the benefit of all the local racers, regardless of what they are running, Kyosho, Mugen, Serpent, HPI, etc.
Also parts for the new 720, Mugen MTX4 and Kyosho RRR will be stocked.
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| RoyalPalmrace
August 4, 2006
2:05:38 PM
Entry #: 1600532
| henry do you have transponders available??
Andy
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| benito camela
August 4, 2006
6:24:36 PM
Entry #: 1601028
| Andy, what's wrong with this website? 2 seperate login and password combinations do not work, neither my old original nor the one I created the other day. My login and password that were e-mailed to me do not work. This is my third seperate log-in ID.
In regards to PT's we do not carry them, you have to go directly to AMB.
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| RoyalPalmrace
August 4, 2006
8:42:09 PM
Entry #: 1601199
| dont know why your having trouble????
have you tried from another computer?????
seems to work fine for everyone else...
Andy
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| Pete
August 6, 2006
11:57:57 PM
Entry #: 1603516
| Hey DJ, I just ordered my 720 and will probably run the stratus body. What kind of engine / pipe combo do you recommend? - Thanks, Pete
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| dj
August 7, 2006
12:52:01 PM
Entry #: 1604317
| Well, just got in from GLC, Got 5th had some issues in the main, was up to 1st or 2nd, but I hit a burm and lost 4 laps fixing the car. I recommend the mega power pack. It is the best for the money and they like to run rich, which helps the motor last. You just have to know now to tune them.
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| Pete
August 8, 2006
9:35:42 AM
Entry #: 1606385
| DJ send me an email at petecaballero@hotmail.com. I have a couple other questions I want to run by you.
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| Eric G
August 8, 2006
12:48:41 PM
Entry #: 1606877
| Yeah that Mega power pack was untouchable when I was able to tune it. Have one of the Serpent guys show you the trick to it and it's a great.
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| RoyalPalmrace
September 7, 2006
1:56:32 PM
Entry #: 1663718
| DJ.. just wondering if the 720 optionally could use some hop-ups such as monoblck engine mounts or clutch accessories and such. any advice on additional hopup parts and build tips..
Andy
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| dj
September 8, 2006
1:41:42 PM
Entry #: 1665719
| the 720 needs nothing for hop ups. If you are the type of person that like the bling, than that is different. the 720 is geat out of the box. I like the mono block, it keeps the chassis stiffer, but the new car is a strong and stiff as could be. Peter my e-mail was down, but you can call me @305-586-6072 or now e-mail me @ 3county@bellsouth.net, with any questions. this information is for all that want help. i am leaving for the ft myers state race in the morning, hope to see some of you guys there.
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| RoyalPalmrace
September 12, 2006
2:36:47 PM
Entry #: 1672590
| great good to know.
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| dj
September 12, 2006
4:20:45 PM
Entry #: 1672805
| Hey guys when can we all get together at the new track and start racing.
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| RoyalPalmrace
September 13, 2006
4:17:18 PM
Entry #: 1675001
| Track Opens!!!
Guys everyone is welcome to come down and check out the tracks and get famliar with the facility this weekend.
Homestead RC speedway will be open for practice every Sat and Sunday starting next week the 23rd.
any comments or questions are welcomed..
Andy
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| CJ
September 19, 2006
7:49:23 PM
Entry #: 1687052
| Are a bnunch of guys gonna get the 720 and sell there 710'S?
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| dj
September 19, 2006
8:36:00 PM
Entry #: 1687129
| You should. GO Serpent!!!! the 720 is awesome
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| CJ
September 21, 2006
4:40:16 PM
Entry #: 1690710
| yeah i do wanna get a serpent, but is it worth it to get the 720 or should i get a used 710? ive already got a 3PkS + servos i can put in it, i would need to get and engine + exhaust. How much can i expect to pay for a used 710? i would prefer not having to order it from ebay, and buying it from one of you guys whose getting a 720 and getting rid of there 710
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| dj
September 21, 2006
6:07:53 PM
Entry #: 1690861
| CJ, just get the 720. For the 100 or so dollars you will save, you can get a new car. Just my opinion!
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| RoyalPalmrace
September 21, 2006
6:54:38 PM
Entry #: 1690914
| there are a-lot of good deals with the 710 going on now..
of course the 720 is the latest and greatest but being able to afford to race is very important.
If you can afford a 720 great else get whatever you can afford. the 710s are at very good prices now and is still better than other cars out there. Just get something to race with. If you are a possible A or B main driver I would go with the 720.
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| Pete
September 21, 2006
11:40:00 PM
Entry #: 1691363
| DJ, what time are you going to be at the track on Saturday?
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| dj
September 22, 2006
6:58:10 AM
Entry #: 1691562
| I wanted to be there very early, but no luck. I have to work. I am going to do my work really early in the morning if I start by 5am I can be at the track around 12 noon. That is what I am shooting for.
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| Pete
September 22, 2006
7:50:22 AM
Entry #: 1691594
| Okay, well, could you tell me what is your preferred methond of breaking in an engine - heat cycle or other?
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| dj
September 22, 2006
2:28:41 PM
Entry #: 1692323
| depends of the motor. A nova based motor takes longer. A Mega is pretty quick. What do you have. Also remember, no matter what motor to take it apart and clean it before you put in to be broken in. Sometimes when it comes from the manufacture it has some burs or metal shavings in it.
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| Pete
September 22, 2006
6:09:53 PM
Entry #: 1692780
| I got a Mega. What approach should I take.
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| CJ
September 22, 2006
7:22:56 PM
Entry #: 1692882
| Yah i dont have all that much money and considering this would be my first serious on-road racer, and ive got just about everything out of my current car that i can (right now i have a basic set-up for the track gonna try and get there soon to get it all tuned up) im probably gonna get the 710. Should i get the Mega M12 powerpack thats for sale on shopserpent? Id it performs the way serpent claims its a discount from othere motors.
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| Eric G
September 22, 2006
7:32:29 PM
Entry #: 1692888
| I can definitely vouch for that engine. It's a beast out there. MIght even be a little much for you as a beginner. but who cares :D. Make sure to make friends with the Serpent guys so they can teach you how to tune it. It required a little more patience to get it right, especially when u're learning. But once you get the hang of it you'll love it.
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| dj
September 23, 2006
12:05:10 AM
Entry #: 1693281
| Pete if you are willing to wait till noon then I will help you. It is quick and easy. If you have no experience I do not want to really tell you, but I will. Break it in in the car. I open the top needle as much as necessary to just get the tires moving at full throttle. Do this for 2 tanks and then run it rich in the car on the track for 3 tanks. then you can start tuning it. Just wait for me, if you can.
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| Pete
September 23, 2006
6:53:42 AM
Entry #: 1693460
| Thanks DJ, I will try to wait till you get there, but I not sure I'll be able to hold out. Lets see what happens.
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| CJ
September 23, 2006
9:36:36 AM
Entry #: 1693546
| Well, i wouldnt say im as experineced as some of you guys, but after the on-road track closed ive been running alot of 1/8th buggy. when you first get into this hobby you dont realize just how addcting it is. 3 years from when i started and ive got 4 cars. may not seem like alot to you guys, but im a kid so money that ive been saving since i was 10 has been spentr on these cars, im broke now :)
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| Pete
September 23, 2006
10:08:50 PM
Entry #: 1694580
| CJ, were you at the track today? Hang in there, I am sure the stars will line up and before you know it, you will have a race ready 710.
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| Pete
September 23, 2006
10:15:51 PM
Entry #: 1694589
| Hey DJ, special thanks goes out to you for all the help. I went with Serpent simply because you posted that you would help, and you definitely lived up to your word. I really appreciate all the time you spent on my car. I will be out of the country next weekend, but plan to go back out to the track the following weekend. Maybe you can help me get the 2speed then. Anyways, the car handled great even for a rookie driver like me. Funny thing is that when I got home, I realized I lost a front dog bone. The car still handled well even without the dogbone. Again, my sincerest appreciation for you help!
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| CJ
September 24, 2006
12:08:14 AM
Entry #: 1694760
| I was looking under the "things for sale thread" and aw that Alex S was selling a 710 for $250. I would prefer not using ebay and buying it from one of you guys, anyone else have a 710 for sale? his was coming with a pro chassi and ceramic bearings, so one without that would probably sell for around $200 right? I really hope you guys who wanna sell you cars use the things for sale thread, becuase its the only place i have to look.
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| dj
September 24, 2006
7:20:45 PM
Entry #: 1695811
| CJ, just get alex's. it is a good and he takes care of his stuff. Maybe he some things he is selling with that may turn you on. Call him.
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| RoyalPalmrace
October 9, 2006
9:35:28 AM
Entry #: 1722779
| Ok guys I am building my Serpent 720 and just wanted to report my build experience and findings. So far im impressed with changes made. I really like the new shocks which are butter smooth. I can honestly say that in this case option parts are really just that. (OPTIONAL) ooks like this kit comes with alot of what was old hop-ups as standard including lightweight pivot balls and lock down wheel hubs. In esssence at least for me this car seems to be sum of everything leaned and applied from all previous 200mm car designs from serpent. I can see the evolution since ive owned them all in past. There is still room for improvement since nothings perfect but the car looks awsome as far as the features included. If the car performs well on the track and is robust when put to the test I fell this kit is the way to go for pro level drivers. However I wont go as far to say that its for everyone since its still a serpent machine that requires its own finess and touch which comes from experience. I will say that the kit is well documented and that it might be worth taking a chance. I just feel though that its an advanced design which might be to much for beginners... maybe not.
Andy
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| dj
October 9, 2006
9:53:04 AM
Entry #: 1722810
| Just atip andy, use 10 or 20 wt in the rear diff for the homestead track.
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| RoyalPalmrace
October 9, 2006
2:27:38 PM
Entry #: 1723468
| Ok someone needs to come out witha ball/gear diff hybrid. Like a gear diff but adjustable on the track!
For those of you still building on step 3.9 on build manual that back end goes in at an angle from top down then settles down on the back end. it wont go in if trying to push in straight. Once thats done you will be rewarded with absolutly no binding on the back arms. NICE!! no sanding here.
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| RoyalPalmrace
October 9, 2006
2:46:05 PM
Entry #: 1723501
| Ok just some background info.. I think the 705 was a big mistake as far as a car design to compete with the new mugen at the time. The 705 gave mugen and other manufactures a chance to put out better handling cars compared to the 705 platform. This is of course old news. Then the 710 almost was there this car the 720 is (I hope) the culmulation of all lessons learned in past designs. Im expecting this car to handle great. I will report my finding either way. I can say that I think the car is a great value with all the goodies it brings. Considering all the included hop-ups your really getting alot with the USA version of the 720. comes with 3 choices oneway, solid, gear diff choices as standard front drives all in the kit!
ok back to building....
Andy
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| RoyalPalmrace
October 12, 2006
10:42:59 PM
Entry #: 1731754
| Ok is it Parkay....or Butter?
No its serpents suspension.
Im very happy with how smooth the suspension worked out on the 720. Usualy I sand down the rods or ream plastic but just when i'm about to do that. (which is standard procedue for me) I notice that this new suspension doesnt need it! The suspension is buter smooth without any extra detail work. I was extra inpressed with the rear suspension because of all the areas that usually cause binding in most cars. There was no binding at all! even with the rear sway 4 pivot balls and steel pins ..all worked together like a fine timepiece moving in sync and no binding. just smooth butterness.
Andy
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