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TOPIC: Championship Series |
| BigSugar
September 25, 2006
12:17:55 PM
Entry #: 1697110
| Who is the favorite?
What is the line?
Who is throwing in Game 1?
Where is the trophy?
Are the beers cold?
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| Gator25
September 25, 2006
4:39:38 PM
Entry #: 1697776
| "Who is the favorite?" I don't think there is any clear cut favorite. I think we are evenly matched, and bulletin board material doesnt have to factor into it (see redsox15's post). If this doesnt go 3 games, win or lose, they are going to be tight games, IMO.
"What is the line?"
Even up if you ask me...who ya gonna take?
"Who is throwing in Game 1?"
JD for me (shocking) and Rock for the A's, unless Chuck is pulling a Tony LaRussa Rick Ankiel trick.
"Where is the trophy?"
Good question
"Are the beers cold?"
Is there a better reason to play???
Sugar, since you are such a nice guy, if you want to keep up on the series, visit our team website. I will have Gurk put the link to it on here, but in the meantime www.leaguelineup.com/gators27. You will have a pretty good idea of what happened in the game if you can't come out.
Does anyone actually come out to the finals in this league. Something we did in one of the other leagues we used to play in...we had an appreciation party the 2nd game of the championship series. If I remember right, we factored in the cost at the beginning and that day got a keg and cooked some burgers and dogs, potato salad and crap like that. It was kind of cool, free for all who attend, and it actually got some people out to the game. It was great for us, because we never won the league, always finished 2nd and lost that game, then got to drown our sorrows...
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| rainorshine
September 26, 2006
8:11:50 AM
Entry #: 1698843
| That's actually not a bad idea.
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| BigSugar
September 27, 2006
2:20:59 PM
Entry #: 1701862
| What happened in Game 1?
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| Gator25
September 27, 2006
3:58:58 PM
Entry #: 1702091
| A's 3 Gators 2...fantastic game and fun to be a part of win or lose
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| chomp18
September 28, 2006
9:37:24 PM
Entry #: 1704930
| Freaking heartbreaker.
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| Playtwo
September 30, 2006
7:42:30 PM
Entry #: 1707764
| Looks like the rumors of a youth movement in the league were highly exaggerate.
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| chomp 18
October 2, 2006
10:26:58 AM
Entry #: 1710193
| ouch.
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| the benchwarmer
October 12, 2006
5:57:11 PM
Entry #: 1731259
| Yes,there were some great games in the playoffs this year.The DB's - Gators series was a back and forth battle,but in the end lack of team speed and defensive miscues did in DB's. The comeback by the A's in game 1 with the Cardinals was vintage FOY baseball. The Cardinals 9th inning victory and series closer against the Red Sox was a gem of great pitching and defense. Game 1 of the finals between A's and Gators was another pitchers duel ending on an ESPN web gem. It can only get better.
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| Argus
October 13, 2006
4:42:28 PM
Entry #: 1733255
| Yeah, there were great games. The one that comes to mind was the elimination game DB's was allowed to play against Black Sox with eight players. How did that happen? Rumor has it that DB's paid both umpires, so they wouldn't have to forfeit.What happened to the rules? Their numbers were barely nine most games all season. Who runs this league anyway?
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| PlayTwo
October 14, 2006
8:38:09 AM
Entry #: 1734025
| Argus, that was a Saturday game rescheduled from Tuesday night which got rained out. Archie new on Tuesday night that we only had 8 players for Saturday. He had plenty of time to schedule that game at a different time. As for how many players we have at each game, its none of your fucken business. And for what it is worth, the team we played in the play-in game shouldn't have even been in the playoffs.
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| Spicy Salami
October 15, 2006
4:08:50 PM
Entry #: 1735913
| Didn't they win with eight? That should say enough. Argus=Sour Grapes.
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| BigSugar
October 16, 2006
9:37:36 AM
Entry #: 1737169
| That was a great game. In the first inning there were two ropes hit to the gap in right center. Good thing we had our right center fielder there to make the plays.
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| Argus
October 16, 2006
2:25:13 PM
Entry #: 1737855
| Spin it anyway you want, but the rules say nine. A lot of creativity happens during the regular season, but this is the playoffs. Reschedule of rainouts during playoffs always creates a tight window. You cannot roll the dice with nine and hope everything works perfectly. Be careful, you may have a bad season some year and want that one playoff game.
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| rainorshine
October 17, 2006
8:18:51 AM
Entry #: 1739333
| I don't think we ever tried to roll with nine. We have three starters who coach sports in the fall and all had games on that day, which was known and told after the Tuesday night rainout. We could have played Friday night, or Saturday morning. We had one player sent to Kuwait, he could not work his schedule around that. It was just a scheduling conflict that affected many people. Get over it, it's an over 27 baseball league. I don't know anyone who's getting a paycheck for this.
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| Argus
October 18, 2006
5:12:47 PM
Entry #: 1742897
| Yes, it is over. One last point, using your math, 8+3+1= 12, not realistic numbers to carry through a full schedule. Injuries, other choices and lack of vested interest makes for parity only if the rules are enforced. Maybe we could all do like the Red Sox guy and make up the rules as we go along.
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| PlayTwo
October 19, 2006
9:49:35 AM
Entry #: 1744063
| ......Argus, we have 15 on our roster. The other 3 guys were at work. I'll say again, Archie knew on Tuesday we didn't have enough for a game on Saturday. He had the option to play that game on Friday night or Saturday morning. Either way, you still would have got your ass kicked.
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| Argus
October 19, 2006
3:14:01 PM
Entry #: 1744958
| Dont make it personal. You assume because I am defending the league rules that I represent the Black Sox. I am Argus, the guardian, the watcher with a thousand eyes.
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| 2 cents
October 19, 2006
5:28:07 PM
Entry #: 1745261
| I should just let you guys play, but Argus has to be from Curley's, wanting a series with the Black Sox instead with DBs.
I see both points. Rules are rules, and they are set for a reason and should be upheld. Otherwise, why have them?
On the other side, DBs had enough to play Tuesday and with the rainout, had to reschedule Sat. 2 things could have been done at that point. 1. Play the game at a different time or day, which may have been a bit inconvenient but with how open the field times are at this time of year, it could have been possible. or 2. Let DBs play with 8, understanding that sometimes circumstances dictate when rules should be bent, which is what happened.
Any way you look at it, the better team moved on in each series against the Black Sox, and against Curleys.
Maybe next year we should have some sort of committee of 3 guys. That way, something like this situation can get voted on, and if it passes, then you can be mad at the league in general instead of just at Archie.
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| matt
October 19, 2006
8:42:38 PM
Entry #: 1745567
| why do want to throw curley`s into this stupid conversation you all are having, no one from curleys has been crying or has ever been bitching about who we played in the 2nd round, we were just happy to be there because we played horrible down the strech, so next time leave your 2 CENTS out of it.
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| rainor
October 20, 2006
7:43:14 AM
Entry #: 1746099
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| rainorshine
October 20, 2006
7:44:00 AM
Entry #: 1746102
| Guardian, Thousand Eyes = Tool
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| 5 cents
October 20, 2006
10:02:32 PM
Entry #: 1747729
| Matt, that wasnt a knock on Curleys. It just makes sense that a Curleys player would be a bit bitter about it. Does it not?
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| chuck23 A's
October 21, 2006
2:12:23 PM
Entry #: 1748306
| enough with the nicknames. use your real name,#, and team. chuck 23 A,s
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| rainorshine
October 22, 2006
12:48:30 AM
Entry #: 1748917
| I hate chuck23a's
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| the commish
October 24, 2006
4:08:27 PM
Entry #: 1753923
| I was trying to stay out of the fray, but somethings need to be addressed. Without making this a history lesson, I suspected attendance problems when DB's was informed of the Saturday date. A case was made that they should play Wednesday and all other team slide down. I ruled that was it was easier to move two teams to Sat. than move the other six. Fastforward to Sat. DB's ninth guy has a personal situation and is a last minute no show. DB's requested to play with eight. I told them it was up to the Black Sox. The Black Sox asked what the rules and their options would be. They chose to play DB's with eight players. If they had exercised their option for forfeit, it would have been upheld. I agree with the one post that creative things happen over the summer. I watch a lot of the games, but I am not there to rule on every nuiance of the game. We hire umpires for that.
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| Argus
October 24, 2006
6:22:47 PM
Entry #: 1754160
| Glad to see the commissioner finally tell the story. I will continue to be vigilant in protection of the rules.I will not make ad hominen comments about other posts. This is the first thing that is done, when you don't have a plausible argument. Afterall Archie, it was your fault they didn't have enough players.
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| BigSugar
October 25, 2006
7:37:16 AM
Entry #: 1754968
| DB's offered to pay for both umps as a gesture of thanks to the men from the Black Sox that allowed the game to be played. After the 12-2 loss, their manager (who was not there) started crying about a forfeit.
Question for Black Sox: how many of your players at that game were playoff eligible?
During the season, in an emergency, you can drag a new guy out to play. In the playoffs that is not an option.
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| Gator25
November 3, 2006
10:11:31 PM
Entry #: 1773085
| First of all, I think the Black Sox deserve props for letting you guys play with 8, given the circumstances. Given that choice against you guys, I am not sure what I would do. I would like to think I would do the right thing and let you go with 8, but I can't be 100 percent certain that's what I would choose, and I don't know how many teams would.
That being said, if the motivating factor for not making you forfeit is because they had ineligible players, that's kind of hard to prove. I dont think anyone wants it to come to having IDs checked before the game. That would just be silly.
Maybe that's why they let you play, maybe not, but still give them some credit.
DB's didnt forfeit a single game during the regular season, it's not like they have a history of forfeiting, at least not this year that I saw. Though, I have to admit, the dude you pulled off the football field the one game who had to hold up his sweats while he ran was pretty fockin hilarious.
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| rainorshine
November 5, 2006
12:26:43 AM
Entry #: 1774350
| I think there is a lot of credit given to the Black Sox for their decision. I am under the impression that we show up to play and have a great time doing it. Let a team play with eight? Do it if it means playing a game.
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November 13, 2006
9:28:50 PM
Entry #: 1790557
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| Sittin pretty in 07
November 13, 2006
9:37:42 PM
Entry #: 1790568
| Pretty good points made here.Good move by the SOX to play the game and good gesture by DBs to pay for both blue. The sox were pounded by 8 guys so they were outclassed and had no business being there.My team would play that game every time even if they had 8 plus one East st louis footballer.It is good to see that the crying extends well into the offseason.By the way, Chuck, nobody cares what you think.But you do a nice job warming the bench for your grandkids A's team.
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| Glory Days
November 16, 2006
7:53:14 PM
Entry #: 1796400
| Well they'll pass you by...
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| matt
November 18, 2006
12:31:09 AM
Entry #: 1798534
| this is a reply to mr. 2 cents, after talking to the commish i confirmed something that i already thought was true, if the black sox would have made db`s forfeit the game they only had 8 players, we (curley`s) would have played the red sox, not the db`s, seedings for the 2nd round go from highest to lowest, so it would have been #4cardinals vs. #10black sox , and #5red sox vs. #6 curley`s. so please refrain from throwing the curley`s name in to this discussion.
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| 2 cents
November 24, 2006
11:46:48 AM
Entry #: 1807980
| Matt, again, it wasnt a knock on you or your team. Just a simple observation. No more, no less. So, please, let it go and try not to lose any more sleep over it.
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| the commish
November 28, 2006
4:23:35 PM
Entry #: 1813050
| I read a lot of posts making an argument for playing games with 8 players. Where will it end? Can we play with seven or how about six ? Let's just play Indian ball. If you want to bat 15; use open subs so someone can sit on the bench and smoke cigs, there is an outlet for this. It is called the MSBL. The better competitive players find their way to this league. That is what makes this league unique. Most of the advocates for change are newbys and do not know the history of this league or its stability. We have a proud tradition of playing games on scheduled dates, having umpires show and the diamond being prepared to play. I have to sign off before I really get fired up and name names and tell where the bodies are buried.
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