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TOPIC: Bitching and crying poll |
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| Man in blue
August 13, 2007
8:28:52 PM
Entry #: 2315582
| i would just like to start a poll between all of us here in the forum land, of which team they think does the most bitching, moaning, crying, screaming at the umps, poor sportsmanship, etc. and if you can remember a good situation about the team you are posting about, please refresh us all.
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| RabbitEars
August 14, 2007
7:00:50 AM
Entry #: 2316076
| Definitely Johnny's. I blew a call against them and I lied to my partner so that he wouldn't overturn the call. Boy did they bitch about that.
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| BigSug
August 14, 2007
7:45:56 AM
Entry #: 2316119
| I hope this is a joke. If not, I vote for the A's.
Being right is more important than getting it right (and vice versa).
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| Moe
August 14, 2007
9:26:22 AM
Entry #: 2316297
| Curleys is my pick. Matt can bully an ump like no other.
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| Courtesy Runner
August 14, 2007
10:56:25 AM
Entry #: 2316474
| Poor sportsmanship-A's
Bitching and moaning-A's, with the Cardinals being a close second.
Come on guys, do you have to bitch about EVERY pitch whether you are throwing it or hitting it?
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| argus
August 16, 2007
10:23:35 PM
Entry #: 2322395
| What a great subject. I agree the A's and the Cardinals are the worst. Two individuals that really show their ass are Tim Rakers and Kenny Grasle. Over the years they have bullied and intimidated umpires to no end. They have snapped their gloves and F-bombed umpires with impunity.Wake up , your not that great or you would be pitching at higher level. Rakers is great at bitching at umpires until he starts getting lit-up then all of a sudden his back starts to tighten up and he makes an excuse to get out of the game. Grasle does simular antics, except he does't fake injury. Kenny, has a supporting cast of whiners to help share the load. Four players on the Cardinals who should have been ejected more than they have been are: Jeff Plunkett, Joe O'Conner, Mike O'Conner, Jeff Bell. Mike is probably the most discrete of the four, while Joe will kill you with his chuckle. Do not be deceived he is still whinning. Plunkett will whine the whole game until the umpire takes charge. Jeff Bell is a school teacher, but you would't know it by the language he has spewed at umpires. He never saw an inside pitch he thought was a strike as he dives over the plate, but put him behind the plate and he will snatch and drag every pitch and want the call. They are all good players, but they cannot be objective unless they have beer in hand and are watching from behind the back stop. Jeff gets a pass because he can make bad decisions without the alcohol.
Every team has a whiner,whether its Dave Henke of the A's or Mike Pasqualone of the Red Sox or John or Jamie Murray of Johnnys or Rick Mallot or Jeremy Faust of the Da Bulls or Mark Marshsll or Lon Thornton of the Pirates, and we would be remiss if we did not mention the masterbitcher Chuck Diering. You all tend to be poor sportsman on varying levels
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| BigSug
August 17, 2007
7:50:48 AM
Entry #: 2322692
| This is the best post in the history of the forum. Congratulations argus.
Rakers and Grasle are that great - by the way.
argus translated in Kazakhstanian = target.
Sorry Gators, you didn't make the list.
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| Flabbergasted
August 17, 2007
7:58:30 AM
Entry #: 2322704
| Dude whoever you are Argus, you are my hero. Talk about calling people out! Agreed that everyone, and I mean every one has a cryer. The catcher for the Cardinals is dead on. Dude comes out of the dugout after ANOTHER 3 pitch at-bat and stares down the ump while dropping F-bombs.nice. Grow up.Its over. Dude is a teacher? What district? A lot of the whining is somewhat amusing but that dude seems capable of burning a house down after a foul tip. The best is when a guy gets a borderline strike 1 or 2 against him and then dribbles a cock-shot back to the pitcher. The whole way across the diamond he is still bitching about strike 1 or 2. Chuck is a douche.
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| Gator25
August 17, 2007
8:06:33 AM
Entry #: 2322717
| Can't make any lists on this website apparently. No whining list, no drinking list, the list goes on and on.
I'm dying to know, who's our whiner? This year. I know the answer last year.
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| shemp
August 17, 2007
8:35:44 AM
Entry #: 2322758
| im gonna have to go with cardinals, those guys are so old its just in their nature to bitch, and the ring leader of this operation mr. plunkett, he dont do much bitching he just deliberates with the ump.
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| D. Scott
August 17, 2007
9:11:26 AM
Entry #: 2322828
| It is always good to give a team that has won 13 of 14 heading into the playoffs more motivation through bulletin board material...
Nice job Argus, you genius.
By the way, anyone find it ironic that a post about bitching and moaning IS bitching and moaning?
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| Captain Spicedrum
August 17, 2007
11:11:52 AM
Entry #: 2323079
| Hope every one is ready for the playoffs. I know the Gators are coming to kick tail and chew gum. And they just ran out of gum. I nominate Argus for Commissioner:) I also nominate the Gators catcher for their whiner. He is always bitching about having to run out squirted balls to the 2nd baseman.Fat little bastard.Beware the Cardinals now have raised hackles. I dont know what that means, but it sounds old.
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| Gator25
August 17, 2007
12:52:22 PM
Entry #: 2323277
| I think Argus is Rotha. She wants to piss the Cardinals off so they drink deep into the playoffs.
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| Gator25
August 17, 2007
9:31:41 PM
Entry #: 2323974
| You know one thing that is getting lost in this discussion here, and Argus makes a good point, every team does have a whiner or two.
However, as a whole, this league is FAR better than many of the leagues that we have played in concerning bitching at the umps. Maybe it's because the umps actually are better, or maybe it's because by age 27, we have all gone through puberty finally.
Who knows, but I've seen guys throw a bat half way up the backstop on a called third strike then threaten to meet him in the parking lot when the game was like 15-2 and the guy was 4-5 with 11 rbi's. We've also witnessed a catcher get out of the way of a fastball that was easily upper 80s and let the ump take it in the chest because they were pissed about a call.
That's just a couple things that stand out, but in every league there have been teams that just rag about every single pitch to the point that it's almost embarrasing to listen to. It's really not that bad in this league, but it could certainly be better.
And Henke, I overhead the umps talking and heard something about Vernon wanting the plate when you pitch in the finals.
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| Gator25
August 17, 2007
9:33:21 PM
Entry #: 2323977
| umm, sorry, I meant the playoffs...
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| redsox15
August 18, 2007
1:21:21 AM
Entry #: 2324121
| Gator25, totally agree with you on this subject. What we need is an underground video similar to the one from my home town of Baltimore entitled "Stop Snitchin." We should call ours "Stop Bitchin." There you have it. The "Stop Bitchin" Campaign starts tomorrow. I'm out.
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| smackdown
August 18, 2007
4:00:55 PM
Entry #: 2324550
| Is this a women's gossip column or men's baseball league? Argus, why stop at naming names? Why don't you start listing phone numbers and addresses. There is definitely no need to list professions. I agree with several of your "whining picks", but leave it on the field. Maybe next year we should start with a sensitivity poll, so we are sure no players get their feelings hurt.
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| cap
August 18, 2007
8:26:36 PM
Entry #: 2324817
| Agreed. No need to list profession. Even though Dennis professionally endures poo showers.
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| Norm
August 20, 2007
9:14:55 AM
Entry #: 2326303
| First off let me thank all the Cardinal fans out there for their take on our team - as D Scott said it never hurts to give the old guys a little more motivation to go with their beer. Thanks Argus. If you think Joe is bad you should have seen and heard him call a game from centerfield. Hell we didn't even need a plate umpire - just let Joe call em. And Plunkett can grind on you like fingernails on a chalkboard but hell, thats his job - he's a lawyer, he gets paid to aggravate people. I don't know why you're on JB though - he's 53, catches every game, and knows the game better than most people in our league. Hell I'd bitch just having to bend over to catch the damn ball that many times. Now KG has worked long and hard at his ability to irritate officials. Him and Rock almost make it an art form. I think KG is still banned from some venues in Carlyle and Marissa. Classic. I think the only reason you're chippin on Mike though is jealousy. I might be biased, but I'll take Mike on my team every time, and at 48 still might be the best shortstop in the league. When it's all said and done though, I'll take Joe, Plunkett, KG and Mike on my team because I know they will play hard, care about the game, and most of all, will probably buy me a beer after the game (well, except Plunkett). Argus if there's too much bitchin and god forbid, cursing, in this league for you, maybe you can find a squash or badminton league to get join. Sign up at Clementine's in Soulard. Or go home and watch your favorite movie - A League of Our Own. Oh, and don't dig in.
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| BigSug
August 20, 2007
2:32:39 PM
Entry #: 2327045
| Argus, will you reveal your identity. I called about 12 people Argus on Saturday and they all denied it. At least let us know who you will be facing in the play-offs.
Yes, Jim Mora, I'm talking about play-offs.
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| Vernell
August 20, 2007
3:16:52 PM
Entry #: 2327151
| I rarely hear any pissing and moaning from any of the teams. Then again, I am also deaf. Anyone know where I can get a braille rulebook?
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| the commish
August 20, 2007
4:50:25 PM
Entry #: 2327313
| I have enjoyed this topic most thoroughly. Great banter. I will defend my pseudo- brothers the Cardinals. While it is true they can be contentious to play against, they are true competitors and have a genuine respect for the GAME. I too would take all the aforementioned players on my squad. There is a reason why at their advanced age they still win. It is because they know how to play the GAME.
Norm, I have watched Joe call a game from centerfield but, now that he plays a corner position he tends to miss a few. JB between the lines is one of the fiercest competitors this league has ever known. Away from the field he is one of the nicest professionals you will ever meet. Mike O' I don't know how you made the list? KG, of everyone mentioned you have escaped ejections more times than you should have. That being said over the years you have spun some masterful gems. Plunk, { my pool partner} it is true you are a master debator from your hot corner position, but over the years you have been a Red Sox killer with the glove and the bat.
Argus, you might be dead on about the others you called out, but the Cardinals just negotiate leverage better.
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| Man in blue
August 22, 2008
11:41:01 AM
Entry #: 2879326
| Is it possible to get this topic going again, it was great for 2007, and im sure everyone has something new they can add for 2008.
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| Billy Martin
August 23, 2008
7:20:38 AM
Entry #: 2880081
| How about Carl's tirade on the foul ball home run? I hear that was a classic.
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