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| homie
October 18, 2008
12:15:41 AM
Entry #: 2951912
| What is up with this team. There is talent, many people out there agree. When I think of this team I dont think of the word "bad" but what word does stick out is "inconsistent." Come out on their opening drive and rip apart Lathrups defense to go ahead early. Then the next 2 1/2 quarters theres nothing. Granted the play calling sucks, but that will be saved for a different rant. Anyways, I just want some feedback on what others have seen.
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| SOF
October 18, 2008
12:30:00 AM
Entry #: 2951921
| Offense has been unstoppable at times. The Stoney game and second half vs. Troy really show how good this team could have been. They have been in a lot of close games thus far and have lots of talent. It really boils down to inconsistency, TURNOVERS have played a huge role on offense, and then not being able to stop people on defense. This team could play with anyone, but has underachieved in terms of their record
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| scout919
October 18, 2008
1:19:20 AM
Entry #: 2951941
| i dont mean to say blame the refs but i have heard that rochester has been unfavored i guess u could say in some calls in their games, a big part is their line, need some bigger hogs down there to establish that run game and use hill to the fullest, if they can do that against adams next week and then utilize bradley in the passing game, then hey ya never know what might happen, another thing is finishing the job, gotta come out strong all four quarters not just the first half or the second half, gotta b the whole game, saw a little bit of finishing the game from rochester when they dominated stoney, but they gotta work on finishing out games, mayb its a stamina thing, do they have enough depth in the line and keeping guys healthy, either way rochester has a very strong and very good opponent next week, their crosstown rivals ADAMS
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| meatball
October 18, 2008
2:01:02 PM
Entry #: 2952163
| every team feels like the refs are against them. i don't think the refs favor teams, its just the MHSAA will hire anyone to do the job, any many are clearly uncapable.
rochester looked great against troy, but some real questionable playcalling kept them from winning.
against stoney, they exploited SC's weaknesses and ran all over them. It kept Stoney from getting in the playoffs, and I expect that to become a true rivalry game.
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| SOF
October 18, 2008
2:54:17 PM
Entry #: 2952195
| There have been two clear instances where the refs have made poor calls. In the Troy game, everyone on the team said HIll was in the endzone on the last play after watching film which would have given them the game. Also, against Famrington they had a clear touchdown return on a fumble called back because the guy was down even though he was standing up. Either way, tough to blame the refs, but can't help but think what would the season be like if they got that call against Troy.
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| upandover
October 18, 2008
8:25:35 PM
Entry #: 2952407
| Unless every game is a win, there's always the should've could've. This is what's so facinating about hs football. Good coaching gets the kids through the should've could've with good motivation. Also, many hs football coaches fail to utilize what is given to them by the opposition and don't manage a football game very well. This is what separates the Bell's, Richardson's, Fracassa and the many others who seem to win year in and year out. Can't forget the Petrino's either. Bottom line, it's mostly about coaching.
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| bert
October 18, 2008
8:58:20 PM
Entry #: 2952429
| sorry to be so negative, but it boils down to the lineman being soft. special teams need a lot of work!
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| scout919
October 19, 2008
5:19:34 PM
Entry #: 2953109
| yes special teams do need help, same with the line, need to utilize they're speed on the line, they dont have really any big linemen accept for 77 who is descently sized but isnt a giant, think that they just need to work on alil bit of everything but mainly line and special teams
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| 1stngoal
October 20, 2008
10:35:59 AM
Entry #: 2953863
| Rochester if they were consistant would have been a 3-5 or at most a 4-4 team. Turnovers are huge in a game. All games will have bad calls, so I would have to say there record speaks for the type of team they are. An incosistant, mistake prone team.
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| scout919
October 20, 2008
11:29:44 AM
Entry #: 2953966
| turnovers and rochester r horrible, well the stats that have been entered on this site say so, but im sure theres more, 12 int. 6 fum. from week one to week seven, cant win games with those numbers
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| upandover
October 20, 2008
12:16:30 PM
Entry #: 2954063
| turnovers will kill a team. Ask troy, 16 in 8 games. Not good!
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| homie
October 20, 2008
12:59:22 PM
Entry #: 2954145
| Scout919, where do you come off saying Rochester is horrible. Thats just off base. You mentioned stats so let me throw some at you 26-20, Troy over Rochester. Werent they supposed to roll over them. 17-14, Harrison over Rochester. 24-21, Farmington over Rochester. Also had 12 point losses to Lathrup and Southfield. Anyways, you get the point. Yes turnovers kill and it shows. But to say they are horrible is just stupid. Rochester has put up close games against good competition.
Sorry I didnt mean to attack you on this but Im just a loyal Falcon alumn that has been through it all on the gridiron.
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| scout919
October 20, 2008
1:57:16 PM
Entry #: 2954285
| ohhh no no no, i wasnt saying rochester is horrible, i was saying like rochester and their turnovers r horrible, was not bashing rochester at all, this is a team with a lot of talent and if they didnt have so many turnovers they could easily have a much better record than what they have
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| scout919
October 20, 2008
1:58:29 PM
Entry #: 2954290
| and i too am a rochester alumn that has been through those tough but unforgetable gridiron days
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| homie
October 20, 2008
4:19:47 PM
Entry #: 2954561
| ok thats understandable..once again sorry for attacking but you know how it is. by the way which years did you go to rochester?
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| scout919
October 20, 2008
6:21:53 PM
Entry #: 2954784
| 04-08, urself?
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| riggo44
October 20, 2008
6:35:50 PM
Entry #: 2954807
| rochester's problem is simple-they can't stop anyone and they can't run the football.the only game that they were able to run consistantly was the stoney game-look what happened.
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| SOF
October 20, 2008
6:54:02 PM
Entry #: 2954836
| Agree with all that has been said. Turnovers have absolutely killed the team this year. Also, the inability to run the bal has made the team one-dimensional which has led to many turnovers. Sad that in my four years the best record has been 4-5, but the program has some good things coming. They may struggle next year but in 2 to 3 years watch out. They will be very tough
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| bert
October 20, 2008
9:49:51 PM
Entry #: 2955085
| a classy program that sadly loses talent to that other Rochester school with the ugly brown uniforms. They'll have their up years but can't expect too much. Good luck this week!
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| ExPro
October 23, 2008
2:43:28 PM
Entry #: 2958655
| Okay, yes Rochester did score twice in the closing minute against Troy and the refs didn’t want to call it. And yes the film apparently confirmed this. And granted that would have probably helped the confidence of a team feeling underappreciated due to the success of their cross town rival – Adams. But turnovers and bad penalties have hurt this team badly in the games I have seen. You cannot discount the poor play calling of their coach either, as it has been really bad most of the time. Personnel decisions are a weakness too. Last year, #4, Hill, was one of the best safeties in the OAA. This year he doesn’t even play there. They have him playing corner with his back to the ball instead of playing in the middle as a hard hitting centerfielder able to capitalize on his good instincts. Doesn’t help either that they are much smaller than their opponent each and every week. That said, the coach seems like a good young guy that is trying to build a program. Heck, he is even forcing his players to sing to the fans in the stands after each game even if it was a tough loss. I don’t get that as it is the last thing any football player wants to do. It may even be causing some resentment from his team as the players certainly looked peeved the nights I was there. They have some good young players and if they can get the organizational issues straightened out, they have a chance a making a run of it in the coming years.
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| 1stngoal
October 23, 2008
3:55:05 PM
Entry #: 2958775
| Wow they have to sing at the end of the game to the fans? I thought a big rock in the locker room of the Detroit Lions was a weird coaching motivation tool! Ok neither one of those works.
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| scout919
October 23, 2008
9:09:10 PM
Entry #: 2959142
| just an fyi, rochester freshman beats adams 13-7 to stay undefeated, jv loses 13-6 adams stays undefeated, now its varsitys turn tomorrow nite, the classic rochester crosstown showdown, who will come out on top?!?!?!?
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| Joeboxer
October 23, 2008
9:17:46 PM
Entry #: 2959148
| I sure hope that's a good sign for Rochester. I shouldn't admit this, but when I heard Adams lost to Lake Orion, I quietly said "YES!!!!!" Best of luck to Rochester tomorrow night
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| farmtowndad
October 26, 2008
11:21:58 PM
Entry #: 2962345
| Rochester versus Farmington. 24-21. Rochester scored 2 TD's on very short field after 2 Punt Blocks and scored another TD in the last 15 seconds. Game wasn't as close as the score. Farmington dominated line of scrimmage.
Rochester had very little offense against Farmington, but did take advantage with good special teams play.
Rochester's big running back, looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. Didn't like getting hit by Farmington.
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