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TOPIC: Drop Outs? |
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| Linck
December 1, 2008
3:25:26 PM
Entry #: 3005056
| What's the story for this coming season? I hear rumors of teams dropping out of the league. Should we be trying to induce another team or two to join up??
7 Teams would be less fun than 8. 6 is not enough games. (Unless of course we play each other eight times over the course of the summer)
I'm just wondering cause it's time to start planning the 2009 campaign.
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| seven
December 5, 2008
9:13:01 AM
Entry #: 3008242
| I hear Bud will drop out. But thats totally unconfirmed. Right now theyre uncommital, playing it like the Cardinals front office.
Glad to see youre thinking about next season already Link. Never too early to start. I've already started my rigorous off season training program.
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| Webster s
December 5, 2008
10:09:55 AM
Entry #: 3008281
| uncommittal?
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| Spell Check
December 5, 2008
10:20:53 AM
Entry #: 3008291
| Noncommittal
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| Uncommital25
December 5, 2008
9:36:18 PM
Entry #: 3008810
| We're not 100% sure what we are going to do next year, but leaning towards playing in the msbl.
Our pitching got a lot younger last year playing in forest park and a lot of our guys wouldnt be old enough to play in Cahokia next year. There's a meeting next week on I think Thursday, so I'll have a better idea on what we are going to do then.
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| Sarge27
December 7, 2008
12:01:21 AM
Entry #: 3009352
| I hear through the grapevine that the Bulldogs from the MSBL will be arriving in Cahokia after their coach got band for 2 years in the MSBL for cheating. Totaling unconfirmed.
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| hit man
December 8, 2008
9:58:25 AM
Entry #: 3010096
| The Chiefs are back on the warpath! Or maybe the Trail of Tears. Either way, we're back.
Randy, didn't Gurk tell you? I wonder why...
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| 2B or not 2B
December 9, 2008
3:01:16 PM
Entry #: 3011325
| I wouldn't doubt teams would start dropping after the Red Sox won the league. Teams tend to get scared and run for easier leagues when a team like the Red Sox start man handling everyone.
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| heterosexuals
December 9, 2008
3:40:07 PM
Entry #: 3011375
| maybe some men don't like to be man handled!
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| Bud25
December 9, 2008
5:50:50 PM
Entry #: 3011497
| We're not running away from anybody.
That being said, the Red Sox were the best team in the league at the end of the year. No question in my mind the team that deserved to win, did.
But, that doesnt mean that we are afraid of you and running to an easier league. I enjoy good competition and if we do end up leaving Cahokia, I hope we find it in the msbl.
It's nothing personal, just the age brackets and rules suit our team better and that's why we are considering it.
From how the 18+ division is stacking up, it will be as competitive as any league around. And the top teams in the 25+ division are every bit as good as the top teams in FOY. Just not sure about the rest yet.
But, we're not running away.
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| Linck
December 9, 2008
10:34:58 PM
Entry #: 3011708
| Whatever. Cut and run.
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| Captain
December 10, 2008
10:16:18 AM
Entry #: 3011898
| Here comes the debate on which league is better as far as talent. Top end teams in the FOY are as good as top end MSBL. The difference being there are just more good teams in the MSBL. In the 25 plus, there are 8 or 9 teams that could win the FOY on a given year.These teams could also lose to any top 4 FOY team.
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| Sarge27
December 10, 2008
1:12:44 PM
Entry #: 3012048
| The top teams in the MSBL would not be as good if they had to play real baseball (7 innings in the field as well as hit) When you can free substitute all game your body last longer. When the MSBL plays a real baseball game instead of glorified softball then we can compare the 2 leagues.
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| Bud25
December 10, 2008
4:02:12 PM
Entry #: 3012208
| Geez Lammy, you trying to drive me away?
When I read "When you can free substitute all game your body last longer" I hear "no offseason knee surgery after playing with 2 months of pain."
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| Bud25
December 10, 2008
4:06:30 PM
Entry #: 3012215
| I disagree with your statement about the top teams not being as good playing real baseball. I don't know about the msbl teams as I've not seen enough of them to judge, but I know our team in Forest Park would have been MUCH better batting only 9 guys instead of 12-13 and occasionally 14 that we hit. Granted, our 10-12 was better than what would be found on most teams, but only playing my top 9 would have made us a much different team.
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| LInck
December 12, 2008
2:12:37 AM
Entry #: 3013407
| I don't know if anyone cares but as far as "baseball" is concerned the Fountain of Youth is as close to ball as you can get (in this bistate area). Who bats 11 guys or more seriously!?!?!? And who counts ties!??!?!? The Bulls will play in the MSBL or some other crap feminization of baseball but we're still true to the game. Anyone want to play wood bats? (let's get 10 teams over here seriously)
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| J
December 12, 2008
12:23:43 PM
Entry #: 3013641
| I understand your guys feeling on your way of playing baseball. The MSBL offers something else for players that may not necessarily think the same way whether it's feminized or glorified softball or whatever you wanna call it. In reality, using metal bats and playing 7 innings feminizes it too and is pretty close to softball itself. The problem I have is someone that emails me looking to join our league and then turns around and bashes us on another leagues forum. Unfortunatly our league is now full and no longer has room for the "Raging Bulls"
PS, kind of ironic someone actually said "The top teams in the MSBL would not be as good if they had to play real baseball (7 innings in the field as well as hit)" When did real baseball = 7 innings with aluminum bats?
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| Haebs
December 12, 2008
1:06:56 PM
Entry #: 3013680
| Don't you guys play baseball because you love to play and just like being around "the Game". You choose to play in this league or that league and follow the established rules for that league because you love to play, otherwise you'd find something else to do. I have played on dominant teams in the League and not so dominant teams and still enjoy watching our team play and enjoy watching all the other teams play. I like playing against the top teams and when we win (more like if we win), it's a bigger enjoyment for our team and me than being on a dominant team that wins all the time. Like I said, I've been there and done that, playing a five inning game and winning by 15 runs or more was OK, for awhile. I don't think too many people really care what teams are better in other leagues, what the other league rules are, etc. If you play in the FOY, just play the best you can, win and then shake the other teams hands and drink some beer afterwards.
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| Bud25
December 12, 2008
1:19:15 PM
Entry #: 3013690
| Agreed. Every league is going to have it's good teams and it's bad teams. Are the best teams in one league better than the best teams in another? Who knows, but probably not. The top teams in both leagues are probably pretty much equal whether either side likes it or not.
I do enjoy playing baseball for all the reasons you mentioned and I'm going to play in a league that suits my team the best and right now I'm sure which league that will be. Like I said, we're leaning towards the msbl. Both leagues have their strong and not so strong points. What it boils down to is where do my guys want to play? Well, many of my guys aren't old enough to play in Cahokia and everybody, including me is in favor of batting more than 9 guys. Whether you like it or not or think it ruins the game is your opinion and I can respect that. You might be right and you might be wrong, but either way my team prefers it, and we can't get that in FOY.
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| Bud25
December 12, 2008
1:21:40 PM
Entry #: 3013694
| "right now I'm sure"
should read right now I'm not sure"
And congrats Lammy, consider the pot stirred...
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| notsure
December 12, 2008
3:03:08 PM
Entry #: 3013755
| Thats what he does on and off the field, stir it up.
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| Sarge27
December 12, 2008
3:18:15 PM
Entry #: 3013767
| J
"In reality, using metal bats and playing 7 innings feminizes it too and is pretty close to softball itself."
I agree with you 100%. I was just trying to make a point. I can play 9 9 inning games in a week with the MSBL rules (and have done it), couldn't do that with FOY rules. And for the record, our team votes every year at the winter meeting (FOY) to switch to wood bats.
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| Bud25
December 12, 2008
3:28:08 PM
Entry #: 3013778
| Is playing 9 9 inning games in the msbl really worse than playing twice a week in foy?
That's what I don't get. I'd rather play more games.
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| Sarge27
December 12, 2008
3:38:03 PM
Entry #: 3013785
| Missed my point. It is easier. If you are tired you sit out a few innnings. You don't have to play the whole game.
Wood bats next year....
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| Bud25
December 12, 2008
3:51:52 PM
Entry #: 3013793
| Missed my point too. In this case, is easier really worse?
If I could play 4 or 5 or 6 games in a week instead of 2, to me, it's a no brainer.
As far as wood bats go, if foy switches to wood, that would be another strike against. Personally, I'm okay with it and i think cahokia would be a good field to play with wood, but the majority of my team would be against it.
Dang, Mark, go easy on us. If you don't want us to play in foy next year, just tell me!!!
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| Jay
December 12, 2008
3:53:17 PM
Entry #: 3013795
| So you if you're tired in the FOY, you can't sit after 5 innings? I really don't see your rationale here. Anyone can sit out a couple innings in every game, you just can't come back in the FOY. It doesn't really matter to me, I just got a little offended. I'm certainly not here to argue.
I'm with you on the wood bats though. That is why we are playing in the NABA in 2009. I'd rather play wood EVERY game. I even make my wood bats. For anyone that is interested, Carolina Clubs is moving from New York to Florida and don't wanna take their stock with them. They are selling them cheap and they are solid bats. http://www.carolinaclubs.com/
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| Dick
December 12, 2008
4:57:38 PM
Entry #: 3013848
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J,I wish the condoms I wore were as thin skinned as you.
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| Gabenator
December 12, 2008
5:09:04 PM
Entry #: 3013854
| So Ben, did the meeting (you mentioned) shed any light on if Budweiser will be in the FOY for 2009?
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| redsox 15
December 14, 2008
5:50:11 PM
Entry #: 3014687
| I'm for wood.
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| Bud25
December 14, 2008
7:09:42 PM
Entry #: 3014711
| Gabe, to address your question, the meeting didnt do anything to make me want to not play there next year. And at this point, I would say we will most likely be playing there next year. That's not to say something won't change between now and March, but it would surprise me if it did.
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| tribe
December 14, 2008
11:02:38 PM
Entry #: 3014821
| The MSBL will suck without the Bulls. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhAHAHAHAHA
Lawson is looking for a team, right up your alley
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| Bud25
December 15, 2008
9:22:57 AM
Entry #: 3014995
| "right up your alley"
Ha. Is that a shot at JD?
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| Gabenator
December 15, 2008
10:05:54 AM
Entry #: 3015039
| Even though you guys post half nude pictures of yourself on the website, exaggerate how fast you throw and how far you hit, lobby to bat 10 player and usually only have 9 show up, create all kinds of drama with your ex-pitcher, and post complete conversations with yourself on the forum, I think your good for the FOY.
It's always a good competitive squad you throw out there that's fun to play against. I'd prefer you stay.
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| Bud25
December 15, 2008
12:27:57 PM
Entry #: 3015162
| Thanks....I think.
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| tribe
December 15, 2008
3:10:06 PM
Entry #: 3015262
| Of course that was a JD shot
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| Linck
December 16, 2008
12:18:49 PM
Entry #: 3015807
| Don't hate on a south county hustla'.
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| Bud25
December 19, 2008
11:42:46 AM
Entry #: 3017992
| Gabe, I'm not sure how you took my earlier post about where we will be playing next year. After talking to Lammy and re-reading it, I realized it was kind of vague. Right now, I'd say we're 90% sure we'll be playing in the msbl. There are still a couple of factors that could sway us one way or another, but I don't see them happening.
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| ur a d-bag
December 20, 2008
9:58:14 AM
Entry #: 3018473
| Ben, no one really cares if your team leaves the FOY. And everyone is sick of your drama-like posts looking for demands to stay in the FOY. and to this JAY guy. no one cares about you or your league, or the fact that you wont let the Bulls in the MSBL. So keep your comments on your webpage.
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| Gabenator
December 20, 2008
12:43:50 PM
Entry #: 3018570
| Thanks for the update, Ben. I can appreciate why the MSBL might work better for you guys. Maybe come back to the FOY in a couple of years when the young guys on your team are 27?
Hell, the Bulls should give you a call if they're short a guy late in the season with the playoff standings on the line. ZAP!
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| tribe
December 20, 2008
9:28:46 PM
Entry #: 3018767
| WOW
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| Bud25
December 20, 2008
10:47:15 PM
Entry #: 3018784
| I really didnt think anyone cared whether we left or not, so that's why I didnt post anything. 2 different people commented on it on this post, and one other mgr talked to me on the phone about it. So I replied.
I'm not sure what you're talking about when you mention drama like posts with demands to stay in FOY. I didnt make any demands anywhere. Since you see it differently, please enlighten me.
As far as calling me a d-bag, after all I did for this league last year, if thats the thanks that I get then you've helped to make my decision an easy one.
Thank you for speaking for the league when you don't even have the balls to speak for yourself.
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| Bulls #45
December 21, 2008
1:52:03 PM
Entry #: 3018973
| Who's this "tribe" guy and when do you wanna play us?
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| Tribe/ Captain/Whatever
December 21, 2008
5:35:39 PM
Entry #: 3019057
| I am Mike Morgan I run the Tribe in the MSBL. I played with the Gators. Be happy to get a spring game. I actually am a big Bulls fan so I dont get what happened with the MSBL and you guys. Would be a better addition than a couple others that are coming in.
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| Linck
December 22, 2008
9:14:47 AM
Entry #: 3019329
| I like that people take shit personally, that means they care. The misunderstanding between the MSBL's Jay and the Bulls was nothing more than that. We will play in that MSBL 18+ division in addition to Cahokia. Thanks to all those that had our back in this thread but it turns out that Jay is NOT a bad guy, he just took that smack talk as a personal face slap. He invests plenty of his personal time in the division he runs and I am sure anyone in his position would have felt and done the same thing. Lord knows I can be plenty fiesty too. (right #25? lllooolol)
In other smack talkings #45 you know Morgan. Don't sweat that he is a loud mouth just like you or I. This is just a case of friendly smack talk. We all know that shit just makes for more fun, just ask Big Sug. He knows how to come correct on the blah blah's. See you youngsters in the 18+, see you oldsters in Cahokia.
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| Haebs
December 22, 2008
9:35:46 AM
Entry #: 3019337
| Ben, I and just about everybody else truly appreciated what you contributed to the FOY last year. Don't listed to the non-contributors.
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| Bud25
December 22, 2008
9:41:56 AM
Entry #: 3019343
| You guys SHOULD play each other. You know JD will be there since the Tribe has rights to his babysitter.
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| big papi
December 22, 2008
3:03:00 PM
Entry #: 3019562
| Yeah Ben, I appreciated all that you did on the field to this summer. Was fun working with ya , playin with ya, and against ya. You know I'll be looking to do the same again this year in CYC, MSBL, wherever.. got to use my wood bats though. Can't wait until I order next year's stock. And to everyone else, hope you have a very good Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
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| big papi
December 22, 2008
3:14:24 PM
Entry #: 3019573
| Regarding my last post, No I'm not leaving the Red Sox to play for Budweiser or any other team. #15 will be behind the plate once again for the Sox which means we are gauranteed to repeat. My teamates are going to hate me but I just couldn't resist one last smack talk before the end of the year. GEEZ! What have I done!
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| Bud25
December 22, 2008
5:32:44 PM
Entry #: 3019665
| That's not what you said when you were wasted at the team party when we had hookers giving you lap dances.
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| goody
December 22, 2008
5:41:39 PM
Entry #: 3019670
| Funny, he made it to a Johnny's get together, as well. Whore.
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| Bud25
December 22, 2008
9:00:42 PM
Entry #: 3019782
| He's taking that "Every Team Needs a Smitty" article too seriously!!
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| big papi
December 22, 2008
10:04:54 PM
Entry #: 3019814
| Bud 25, I think you have me confused with Smitty Dark, and Goody, you have me confused with Dark Smitty. They are the baseball whores you are referring to. Ya'll just trying to get me in trouble again.
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| tribe
December 23, 2008
10:36:11 PM
Entry #: 3020387
| Linck is my guy! Would like to get a game in with you guys before the season
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| Linck
December 24, 2008
7:33:12 PM
Entry #: 3020886
| You got it Triber. It might be a beer drinking game but that is still cool right??
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| Captain Tribe
December 26, 2008
6:51:31 AM
Entry #: 3021206
| Sounds good, lets do it
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