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| Old Timer
August 15, 2009
1:13:19 AM
Entry #: 3246506
| I was not talking about Park not getting it done and just in case you don't know I don't pitch for Park any more nor do I speak for them.
What I was talking about was some teams just not GETTING IT. Some clubs such as but not limited to Tonka, Edge, Shammies, Park, Frieght a few others and several in class B "get it."
Not "getting it" would be for instance a team swinging composites thinking they out hit a team who hit moon shots and tasers all game at a big league sized park where if the game would have been played any where else other then Parade or the Dome atleast four or five of those moon shots and tazers would have been home runs resulting in who knows how many runs.
"Not getting it/that" would mean that the composite team actually thought they were the better team.
With that being said Park lost to Edge because late in the game they did not pick it up and pitched from behind.
They lost to Moes becaues they left too many guys on base with tasers and moon shots plus did not have timely hitting.
Also Park lost to those two clubs because they got beat!
For the record I do think Edge is a good team and I respect every thing they do from when it all starts with Fall Ball at Coach Denning's program.....so lets just make sure that is straight!
The bottom line is and what I was somewhat getting at is town ball is not even close to what it was in the 80's up until about the mid 90's.
The good teams who "get it" have several good players not just one or perhaps two and they continue to get good players who get it because good players who get it want to play with other good players who also get it.
Most of the other clubs just get who they get.
I know I am starting something here with this but I would bet a dime to a dollar that if an alstar team of 35+ guys from about 30 teams or so was put together they would be playing on the last weekend of the Class A tourney more often then not.
If they were not in the last weekend they would atleast win two games against clubs who think they are good but don't have any idea about what good is, respect for the game or getting it!
Hell you could probably take the top five high school teams any given year and throw them into the Class A tourney and they would have a better shot at going 1-2 or 2-2 then some of the teams who think they are actually good.
I know I started something now but I like doing that sometimes......thing is what I wrote is true and those who actually "get it" will completely understand what it is I am talking about.
For those who don't understand never will any way so I don't really care.
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| Rats16
August 15, 2009
1:37:57 AM
Entry #: 3246513
| Im not sure exactly what you are saying old timer about getting it?
To me composites would give you less a chance of hitting period so not sure where the composite rant and teams getting it got started! Real wood = besides a broked bat here and there more power, line drives , distance and hits.
Baseball is the one sports where any body can win on any given day thats the parody we all love, and doubt a 35+ or HS team has a chance. The fact is Minnetonka is the cream of the crop hands down lets all admit that. There record and titles speaks for itself. In any event Dunning has to go period...A 348 foot centerfield and 314 down the lines doesnt sit well for competetive baseball. No state tournament i can remember has had close any where near the number of Home Runs that would doubles or outs at most parks. State needs to move a different location. Parade asks for way too much money and I believe Veterans had a Regional tournament this year but theres plenty of other nice fields in the metro area that can host it next season.
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| Old Timer
August 15, 2009
1:55:08 AM
Entry #: 3246515
| If a guy swinging any bat has no bat speed and or pop to begin with whether they swing real wood or a composite is not going to give them either.
However anyone who knows any thing about composite bats know that the sweet spot is about as long as the entire barrell is......hence more margin for error. Versus a real wood bat.
The bottom line is per what you said is if a guy has a poor swing to begin with his chance for putting whatever sweet spot he has on his bat onto the ball is slim to non any way.
Consequently a poor hitter or rather poor swing with a wood bat is not going to equate to as much distance normally as the same poor swing with a composite bat.
Bottom line is there is a big difference between wood and composites.
As far as my rant I just get tired of hearing teams who think they are good talk about how they are good when in the grand scheme of things they are not.
I get tired of teams/players or people who don't know what they are talking about saying this guy or that guy or this team are good when they are not good.
As far as a 35+ "allstar" team not having a chance to win a couple games in the tourney well I digress.......Vandehey, Butala, Berfeldt, Moselle, Parks and trust me the list is a ot longer then that. Veteran players like that would carve up stupid little young line ups and guys at that level can still hit pitches thrown in the low 80's for certain.....and that is what I would consider a high end for 80% of the arms in Class A
Regards.....I like the banter
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| The 17
August 15, 2009
8:41:43 AM
Entry #: 3246577
| You want to know what I get sick and tired of hearing.....? An old man who does not even play in the league who thinks he can play in the league because "he gets it". Dumbest babble I have ever heard. I will make my few points and be done with this stupid forum until next year.
1. It does not make sense to play at Dunning because it is tiny. Shallenberger could hit one out while breaking a wooden bat. That's just ridiculous. In the same sense, people who could never dream of hitting one out, have the chance to do so. Double sided coin. I do thank St. Paul for making that venue so much nicer than a few years ago.
2. Until sponsors come along and start giving out free wood, composite bats will always be used so just deal with it. I know you are a pitcher so you always have something to complain about when it comes to hitters.
3. "People who get it", don't make a fool of themself on this thing. So some people know who you are OT. The rest of us think of you as the guy who graduated high school 1 year before we became freshman. It means nothing. It is just a name from the past. Nobody cares that you announce yourself because you don't even play.
Peace out to all. Have a good rest of the season to the teams that are still playing. New season starts on Monday.
The 17
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| Saucebucket
August 15, 2009
9:52:23 AM
Entry #: 3246611
| Couldn't agree with "The 17" more. There are plenty of teams out there that "get it" and have a great respect for the game and you can't take anything away from them because they use a little different bat (because not everyone can afford to buy 4 $80+ bats each summer) which is not that much more of an advantage, if any, for a hitter. Just curious, isn't there a message board for the 35+ league that YOU ARE A PART OF Old Man?
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| "A" BBALL
August 15, 2009
10:19:56 AM
Entry #: 3246620
| "anyone that knows anything about composite bats.." Shut your mouth Old Timer.. You are the one that obviously has no idea about hitting. Stick to your hyping up St. Louis Park chatter. I put up with that team crying all year long about everything the last thing i want to hear know is someone else making excuses for them now. What you refer to as the "Moe's Dynasty" just beat your stupid St. Louis Park team. how about you stop posting on these forums and leave the posting to players actually in the league so we don't have to read your obnoxious posts every 2 minutes
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| Old Timer
August 16, 2009
12:02:16 AM
Entry #: 3246940
| Apparently you clowns know nothing about composite bats as they are more forgiving and enough said on that....if you can't concur on that fact then you my friends know nothing about hitting.
In closing just because......I may be out of the league but I could pitch for either one of your clubs and be no less then top four hands down.
If you don't believe me ask around town.
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| Old Timer
August 16, 2009
12:04:29 AM
Entry #: 3246941
| The only reason guys who can't hit can't afford 4 $80 bats is because they would break all of them before the end of May
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| Old Timer
August 16, 2009
12:06:47 AM
Entry #: 3246942
| I love it....Im a pot stirrrer and your huckelberrry as well.
I got your old man right here rinky dink.....
I forgot more about hitting then you know because I know how to pitch do you "get that?"
At any rate glad I got some goats out of the last week of the forum.....there is always some dumb kid who thinks he is good and can out type me that comes around every once in a while.
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| Old Timer
August 16, 2009
12:10:05 AM
Entry #: 3246944
| For the record why don't previous donkeys please explain to me and others how a composite bat does not provide a poor hitter a distinct advantage versus if they swung wood....
...one of you clowns said it yourself in terms of who can afford four $80 dollar bats.
Well if you can't go a season without four bats or less then it is better if you stick with composites.....do you get that?
Meaning you agree that four real bats will not last you the entire season because you will get splinters from them breaking in your weak little roll over arm bar hands.
yawwwwwwwn....next
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