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TOPIC: Runner's Interference |
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| Bulls #23
August 23, 2009
8:03:57 PM
Entry #: 3253931
| 7.08
Any runner is out when (b) He intentionally interferes with a thrown ball or hinders a fielder attempting to make a play on a batted ball
Rule 7.08(b) Comment: A runner who is adjudged to have hindered a fielder who is attempting to make a play on a batted ball is out whether it was intentional or not.
In other words, if you kick the shortstop's glove while you're running by him while he is fielding the ball - you're out.
I'm just saying... It has nothing to do with whether the ball is past the third baseman as we were told today.
That rule only applies on a hit ball that contacts a runner - and it's a super obscure very seldom called ruling.
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| Wild Bill
August 24, 2009
8:14:27 AM
Entry #: 3254249
| As much as I'd have liked to see you guys win to tighten up the 1st place race, I was there and saw the play and really didn't see the runner intentionally or unintentionally hinder the shortstop from making the play. Looks like the ball took a little funny hop when it came up off the grass and he just missed it. The shortstop was real close to the runner and perhaps didn't get a good look at the ball or was distracted by the runner, but I didn't see an infraction. That's just me, others may have saw it differently. You guys played real well in coming back twice against a top-notch team. Good Job. Perhaps a bunt with runners on 1st and 2nd, no outs would have helped, or the runner on third taking a more aggressive lead and when the ball got by the catcher, in my opinion, he could have scored easily and you'd have won. Good luck in the playoffs, hope we get to meet you as our games are always fun.
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| Lampel
August 24, 2009
1:16:53 PM
Entry #: 3254743
| I didn't see anything wrong with the play at all. I thought the umpiring was superb yesterday. Keep up the good work.
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| Lampel
August 24, 2009
1:18:18 PM
Entry #: 3254745
| I didn't see anything wrong with the play at all. I thought the umpiring was superb yesterday. Keep up the good work.
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| bigpapi
August 24, 2009
2:42:18 PM
Entry #: 3254885
| I must say yesterday's bulls / sox game was a mirror image of the johnny's / sox game the day before. we had an interference call (legit), bang bang plays @ first you name it. also, being the home team we had runners on nobody out and the perfect chance to put johhny's away if I only had moved the runners with a bunt. you guessed it double play threat over, no longer in first place, and eventually the game. I missed the signs but even if Arch hadn't given me the sign that's what i should have done anyway. Not sure if you have signs but ya'll shot yourself in foot just like i did saturday and it cost you. Heck Johnny's, the Pirates and a few of the Curley's guys were screaming, pleading for the sacrifice and it went on deaf ears. You only have yourself to blame I'm sorry to say, not some phantom interference call. Now I couldn't tell if his foot as you claim touched the glove but we had a ground rule double called a home run in a loss to Curleys last week. It was dark hard to tell with a two man crew where the ball landed. Our center fielder didn't put his hands up to signal ball bounce out of play. Can't blame the ump for that. So in the end it all evens out. Just can't let games get to that point where it could affect the outcome. Take care of business yourself and never count on a call or the luck of the bounce to go your way cause you may not be happy with the results. I learned a tough lesson Saturday. You had the same class yesterday. Learn from it and don't let it happen again. See you in the playoffs.
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| Bulls #23
August 24, 2009
4:51:22 PM
Entry #: 3255072
| Ask your guy - he'll tell you he kicked the glove. Not intentionally, but it happened. Perhaps a better show of it by my shortstop gets the call, I don't know. The umpire was no more than 15 feet away and couldn't have had a better look at it.
I hear what you're saying. I can take a bang-bang play at first, I can take some questionable balls and strikes - but for God's sake when the umpires tell me interference wasn't called because the ball was past my 3rd baseman. That's just making stuff up as we go along.
All and all a great game though. Hope to see you guys down the road. )
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| Bulls #23
August 24, 2009
5:11:35 PM
Entry #: 3255091
| While I'm at it I'd also like to publicly apologize for the behavior of several of my guys. That is NOT the way to handle a disagreement and reflects poory on the entire team.
I assure that that kind of behavior will not be tolerated and is being handled on a team level.
Sorry especially to any of you who had children out there - that is not the kind of example to set, nor is the language acceptable either. I promise that you and the officials will not have to deal with anything like that again - I'll be putting a stop to it one way or another.
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| bigpapi
August 24, 2009
5:12:53 PM
Entry #: 3255095
| I understand your point cause we felt the same way with the disputed home run call against Curleys. What may be obvious for the players involved, from the vantage point of the ump, could be tough be they 15 feet from the play or 300 feet. Which brings me to a book I just started reading titled As They See 'Em - A Fan's Travels in the Land of Umpires by Bruce Weber. I've read the intro and from the looks of it I am going to like it. Good luck the rest of the way
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| Bulls 99
August 24, 2009
7:28:12 PM
Entry #: 3255210
| I can see everyone's point. I agree that the behavior and language of a few Bulls was uncalled for. I also agree that we shouldn't rely on an interference call to win a ballgame. But we DO have to rely on hiring an umpiring crew that KNOWS the rules. That's what we pay $50 per game for.
If the call was that there was no contact, then its just a bad call. Done. We all get 'em, and we all have to deal with it when it happens to us. But there was a made-up reason that made no sense. There was no arguement about contact. "The ball had past the 3rd baseman (uninvolved), so that negates an infeilder from getting an interference call." Really??? By that rationale, the pitcher is an infielder, too. Once it passes him, the runners are free to kick gloves and throw punches. That's not a bad call, that's an absurd excuse to cover his ass when he doesn't know the rule. It's good money, and the privledge of being paid cash under the table should be an incentive to do the most to get a call right. Not be an excuse for half-assing it.
If we want guys that know "most" of the rules, own a powder blue shirt, and can make stuff up as they go... Well I'm sure we can find plenty of those for $25-$30 per game and save a whole lot of money. That call gets made the right way, and maybe it changes the outcome. Maybe not, who knows. At the end of the day, it's all about how much BS we're willing to accept with a wink and smile. Unfortunately there's been a whole lot to swallow this year.
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| Bud25
August 24, 2009
10:00:24 PM
Entry #: 3255338
| In our game the other night, we had a guy ejected. Brought the DH into the game and entered the pitcher into the ejected player's spot in the batting order. First base umpire tells us that is not allowed, can't do it. Home plate umpire allows it and the first base umpire tells me that if he was the home plate umpire, he wouldn't allow it to happen. We'd have to play with 8 because the pitcher has to hit in the DH spot in the order because they're essentially the "same guy." Or bring in the DH and take the pitcher out.
Pathetic.
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| Sarge27
August 25, 2009
12:50:16 AM
Entry #: 3255428
| Who, name please. I want to know the ump that made that call.
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| lollipop kid
August 25, 2009
7:44:04 AM
Entry #: 3255525
| On a somewhat related note of the ball being past a fielder (in this case 3rd baseman). If the ball hits the runner after a fielder has a chance to field the ball, the runner is not out. In college I used to steal 3rd a bit, and got hit by the ball on more than one occasion after it passed the 3rd baseman covering the bag. A lot of umps i've encountered don't know that rule.
However, it does not excuse him from runner interference.
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| unknown comic
August 27, 2009
7:03:50 PM
Entry #: 3258525
| Stealing third after the game and taking it home doesn't count. P.S. the colleges and the cops are looking for you.
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| lollipop kid
August 28, 2009
7:03:03 AM
Entry #: 3258816
| Ha! I think the cahokia cops have bigger fish to fry. Besides, I'd be more afraid of Nick da Stick.
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| Dr. White Rush
August 28, 2009
10:46:11 PM
Entry #: 3259605
| Is someone fryin' fish? mmmmmmmmmm I like fish
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