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TOPIC: Week 7 in the Stretch Run |
| Boonazz
October 6, 2009
10:29:10 PM
Entry #: 3297353
| Well were in the stretch run for the season and we have some interesting games for week 7. Ill post my games of interest feel free to add any I missed ..and your analysis, comments, and opinions are welcomed:
Red Division:
Troy (3-3) hosting S Lathrup (3-3)
A meeting of two teams that have had a disappointing season to date. Teams that many had higher expectations of. This game is a toss up and I give a very slight edge to Troy as Lathrups defense has been giving up big points.
Clarkston (6-0) hosting Oak Park (4-2)
This game in the red could be interesting as Oak Park has a way of making games close. Clarkston has been consistant all season... consistanly good and undefeated. Clarkston will remain undefeated.
White Division:
Adams (5-1) hosting Harrison (5-1)
Never underestimate a wounded foe. Harrison comes in hungry to make up for last weeks loss to Farmington. Adams is to big in the trenches and will control the time of possession. Highlanders continue their winning way.
Farmington (4-2) hosting Stoney Creek (3-3)
The Falcons oh these Falcons. They are a team who seems to be improving with time and after a huge win against their cross time rival Harrison they seem destined to make the playoffs again. The Falcons win this 1 but credit Stoney for coming back to life this season.
Blue Division:
Avondale (5-1) hosting Hazel Park (4-2)
Avondale is undefeated in conference play and will secure atleast a tie for the blue title with a win. While Hazel Park has been a "scrappy" team this year they will fall short to a good Avondale team.
Berkley (4-2) hosting Pontiac (5-1)
A match up pitting to good teams from the blue against each other. Pontiac brings a great defense while Berkley brings a real good offense. We all know the it is DEFENSE that wins championships...the Phoenix to win this 1 and set up the big , big game against Avondale.
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| Pheonix Fan
October 7, 2009
1:43:37 AM
Entry #: 3297463
| Nicely Said. I think Avondale and Hazel Park will be a close game. I havent seen Berkley play but the Pheonix are very hot right now. These two games are big for both Avondale and Pontiac
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| Boonazz
October 7, 2009
8:41:23 AM
Entry #: 3297566
| Thanks Phoenix Fan,
What a great story this is. If Pontiac wins friday what a wonderful acheivement for that school and football program.
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| Brokenwalls
October 7, 2009
8:43:11 AM
Entry #: 3297567
| I second that. That high school system needs this big positive.
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| OAAscouts
October 7, 2009
3:55:46 PM
Entry #: 3298056
| sup Bo, here's my thoughts on this HUGE Friday night in Oakland County...
OAA BLUE
#18 Ferndale (2-4) at #17 Bloomfield Lahser (2-4) Both of these preseason divisional front runners are simply looking to scratch out a winning season. Class B Lahser could keep their slim playoff hopes alive, that and the Knights are at home. Bloomfield Lahser 28 Ferndale 20
#13 Hazel Park (4-2) at #10 Auburn Hills Avondale (5-1) The Jackets are in full control of their own destiny from here on out but they better not be looking ahead to Pontiac. If they do, the Vikings make it a three team OAA Blue show. Auburn Hills Avondale 30 Hazel Park 22
#7 Pontiac (5-1) at #15 Berkley (4-2) These two teams are playing their best football of the season. It'll be the top offense (Berkley) against the top defense (Pontiac) in the division. The equalizer should be a talented Pontiac offensive unit. Pontiac 23 Berkley 17
#NR Flint Northwestern (3-3) at #21 North Farmington (1-5) The Northwestern offense is a potent one but don't let North Farmington's record fool you... the Raiders have had late forth quarter chances to win all six of their games. North Farmington 37 Flint Northwestern 33
#20 Bloomfield Andover (1-5) at #NR Pontiac Notre Dame (4-2) The Barons are riding high after earning their first victory last week, but this will be a tough road trip. The Fighting Irish are not happy about surrendering 52 points to Ann Arbor Gabriel Richard on Saturday. Pontiac Notre Dame 31 Bloomfield Andover 23
OAA RED
#12 Southfield Lathrup (3-3) at #11 Troy (3-3) Did anyone expect one of these teams would be out of the playoff hunt by week 7? The OAA is a strong league from top to bottom. So who stays alive? Troy runs the Wildcat, the Chargers are in the Battleship... whoever adjusts to the others offense, that's who. Troy 34 Southfield Lathrup 30
#16 Troy Athens (2-4) at #9 West Bloomfield (3-3) This one would seem like a mismatch but don't count out the Red Hawks, they have an underrated offensive attack. The Lakers offense is solid and competition has been strong, the playoff run starts right here. West Bloomfield 45 Troy Athens 28
#2 Lake Orion (5-1) at #24 Royal Oak (0-6) You could say the schedule doesn't get any easier for Lake Orion but... the Dragon 2nd, 3rd and scout teams will all see significant playing time. A positive for the Raven, homecoming is next week against winless Birmingham Groves. Lake Orion 49 Royal Oak 7
#6 Oak Park (4-2) at #1 Clarkston (6-0) The Knights have definitely answered the bell this season but a trip to The Wolve Den is really going to test them. Clarkston still has Farmington Harrison and Lake Orion and doesn't want to caught looking ahead... you never know. Clarkston 27 Oak Park 20
OAA WHITE
#8 Southfield (4-2) at #22 Birmingham Groves (0-6) The Falcons were so close to victory last week at the Creek and are smelling it. The scent for Southfield is the playoffs on the horizon, but the Jays still have Troy and Southfield Lathrup to play. Southfield 34 Birmingham Groves 9
#14 Rochester Stoney Creek (3-3) at #4 Farmington (4-2) The Cougars stood tall the past couple of weeks, coming from behind in the final minute of play to beat Rochester and Birmingham Groves. The Falcon defense is very good and barring an upset loss along the way they should host 1st round playoff action. Farmington 24 Rochester Stoney Creek 10
#23 Birmingham Seaholm (0-6) at #19 Rochester (1-5) These two teams have seen better days. The Maples are still running around in diapers, and of course both teams face brutal schedules. Excuses aside, this should be a solid defensive contest as turnovers will weigh heavily. Rochester 14 Birmingham Seaholm 13
#5 Farmington Harrison (5-1) at #3 Rochester Adams (5-1) The battle for all the beans in the White. It's the OAA Game of the Week, and well deserved. The Hawks can't afford another loss without causing themselves some type of playoff seed/appearance damage. The Highlanders have been turnover prone of late but their line play has more than made up for it. Rochester Adams 28 Farmington Harrison 16
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| Boonazz
October 7, 2009
4:34:20 PM
Entry #: 3298090
| Excellant write up Scouts!!!!!!! Enjoyed reading your game briefs for this`fridays action. Are u attending 1 of the games?
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| Brokenwalls
October 7, 2009
5:01:37 PM
Entry #: 3298117
| Good Stuff Scout. You know your stuff!
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| houseofpain
October 7, 2009
6:57:57 PM
Entry #: 3298208
| great stuff. i think that seaholm may surprise ya. they gotta be hungry for a win and rochester is beatable for them. other than that good picks!!
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| OAAscouts
October 7, 2009
8:21:25 PM
Entry #: 3298280
| thanks fellas... not sure Bo, it's either the Maples@Rochester or OP@Ctown. I should know by tomorrow night.
Where's everybody gonna be? Let me guess... Walls Creek@Farmington, Bo Harrison@Adams and Pain Seaholm@Rochester? Bet I got at least 2 right.
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| Boonazz
October 7, 2009
9:39:01 PM
Entry #: 3298346
| Adams Harrison game for me! Crossing my fingers that the weather cooperates and that everyone gets to and from their games safely.
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| bert4
October 10, 2009
12:08:24 PM
Entry #: 3300611
| OAA- what is "the Maples are still running around in diapers" supposed to mean? How about that 20-17 OT victory, eh? And by the way, is there any truth to the rumor that Seaholm is getting moved down to the Blue next year?
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| OAAscouts
October 11, 2009
12:06:30 AM
Entry #: 3301044
| Bert... it means that they start 9 sophomores or freshman on either side of the ball and there's only 10 seniors on the team. Hints diapers. Believe me, I was thrilled at the win.
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| OAAscouts
October 11, 2009
12:09:38 AM
Entry #: 3301045
| Yes there is... actually you can look for Pontiac to move up, Seaholm down and Oxford will join the Red as Royal Oak comes down.
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| bert4
October 11, 2009
12:45:37 PM
Entry #: 3301289
| those new divisional alignments make sense-thanks OAA
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| AjAxxX
October 11, 2009
7:15:59 PM
Entry #: 3301559
| oxford only has 1300 students not enough for the red
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| OAAscouts
October 12, 2009
12:57:45 AM
Entry #: 3301869
| Great point AJ, however, just 2 years ago it was Bloomfield Lahser (enrollment at the time 1,000) that spent 3 years in the Red so we'll see what the committee does.
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| AjAxxX
October 12, 2009
6:02:09 AM
Entry #: 3301906
| When that happened the divisions were set by rankings and the main mission was to keep the top four teams split, at that time Adams,LO,Clarkston and Harrison. The last two years the divisons have been set by enrollment, with a slight adjustment with seaholm and Harrison moving up to white and berkley and Pontiac moving down. If they go by straight enrollment RO and Pontaic will be in Red .. Seaholm will move down
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| OAAscouts
October 12, 2009
12:16:36 PM
Entry #: 3302144
| In my opinion (others I talk to) Royal Oak (1,600) has to go to the White... their loss of enrollment in the last 3 years and overall w-l% shout for it. If Adams (1,600) doesn't move to the Red, then it's got to be somebody... especially with the odd numbered addition of the Wildcats.
It seems that we agree, Birmingham Seaholm (1,208) and Pontiac (2,060) will switch divisions.
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| AjAxxX
October 12, 2009
12:23:49 PM
Entry #: 3302153
| Two years ago it went strictly by enrollment, win loss was not a factor- only how your enrollment would determind what playoff division you would most likely be in - red is d1 white is d2 for playoffs and blue d3 (and left over d2 teams). Anything crazy could happen this year - could go regional. Also, not as many teams that would likely be in D1 playoffs because of enrollment decline.
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| AjAxxX
October 12, 2009
12:25:49 PM
Entry #: 3302157
| MHSAA - has RO at 1839 enrollment
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| OAAscouts
October 12, 2009
12:30:40 PM
Entry #: 3302161
| It was 3 years ago, and by saying the WE went strictly by enrollment is not a true statement.
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| OAAscouts
October 12, 2009
12:35:45 PM
Entry #: 3302167
| If putting Adams, Creek, Rochester, Seaholm, Groves, Harrison, Farmington and tossing Southfield in isn't regional than I don't know what is.
The blue and red were mostly in place by winning percentage... oops, Harrison and Adams left to pillage, hopefully this won't continue.
The best should be with the best... it's not hard to see which program belongs where.
Our committee must make another decision regarding which direction will be best for the league.
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| OAAscouts
October 12, 2009
12:37:58 PM
Entry #: 3302168
| btw... look for the Royal Oak enrollment to drop to about 1,600 next year
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| AjAxxX
October 12, 2009
12:39:28 PM
Entry #: 3302172
| These divisions have been around for two years
three years ago
OAA South OAA North
Adams LO
Harrison Clarkston
Southfield Troy
Lathrup Pontiac Northern
Groves Lahser
Seaholm West Bloomfield
Farmington Troy Athens
North Farmington Oak Park
This was a one year league mott and kettering were down and left league so now we have red white and blue based on enrollment except for harrison and seaholm moved up and pnorthern and berkley down
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| OAAscouts
October 12, 2009
12:41:59 PM
Entry #: 3302173
| sounds like you hit the nail there... so your point is?
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| AjAxxX
October 12, 2009
12:48:34 PM
Entry #: 3302178
| RO will be in Red if they go by enrollment again
they won't care about how many students will be there next year
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| OAAscouts
October 12, 2009
1:14:44 PM
Entry #: 3302203
| the Raven will struggle mightily if that happens again.
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| AjAxxX
October 12, 2009
1:18:24 PM
Entry #: 3302206
| They may not care, put them Rochester and pontiac against the teams they could see in the post season. Let Oxford come in with the white. Seaholm down with other D3 teams.
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| OAAscouts
October 12, 2009
1:34:07 PM
Entry #: 3302219
| I can see that happening... nice synopsis AJ, thank you
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| OAAscouts
October 12, 2009
1:55:15 PM
Entry #: 3302239
| If we go strictly by enrollment, here's how it would look for the next 3 years...
Clarkston 2634
Lake Orion 2407
Troy 2181
West Bloomfield 2062
Pontiac 2008
Troy Athens 1924
Royal Oak 1839
Rochester 1790
Southfield Lathrup 1717
Oak Park 1634
Rochester Stoney Creek 1628
Southfield 1536
Rochester Adams 1483
North Farmington 1390
Farmington 1386
Birmingham Groves 1352
Oxford 1303
Farmington Harrison 1252
Berkley 1241
Birmingham Seaholm 1208
Auburn Hills Avondale 1127
Hazel Park 1055
Ferndale 1048
Bloomfield Andover 1013
Bloomfield Hills Lahser 946
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| AjAxxX
October 12, 2009
2:11:14 PM
Entry #: 3302250
| that looks good put SL down and go ahead with Oxford in the blue - then you got good teams in each division and do crossovers over all divisions - best against best
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| OAAscouts
October 12, 2009
3:07:47 PM
Entry #: 3302292
| now you're talking... Oxford in the White seems to be a better fit.
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| bossman391
October 12, 2009
4:18:33 PM
Entry #: 3302377
| looks good, except athens would continue to loose and rochester will do even worse
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| oaared
October 12, 2009
6:25:36 PM
Entry #: 3302495
| Why not just go based on how good the teams are? Sure...Royal Oak has 600 more kids than Harrison, but Harrison has a much better program. Can't judge simply based on school size alone, IMO. If Royal Oak is left in the Red, they will never get better.
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| OAAscouts
October 13, 2009
4:03:41 AM
Entry #: 3302871
| that was my point as well
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| AjAxxX
October 13, 2009
7:24:10 AM
Entry #: 3302892
| It was based on strength of program and school size for a long time ... then the AD's split the four best teams and we had the OAA North and South - the latest league is by straight enrollment - where you land in playoffs except for minor adjustments in the white and blue - red is all the biggest schools at the time it was made
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| AjAxxX
October 13, 2009
7:28:27 AM
Entry #: 3302893
| For some reasons the AD's and principal's didn't like the better programs all in one league
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| fbwonk
October 13, 2009
8:04:41 AM
Entry #: 3302913
| I don't understand why anyone wants to organize the divisions based on each team's recent performance? The simplest and most equitable way of organizing is school enrollment. There's a reason the state playoff system uses that approach. Would you argue that teams should be assigned to classes in the state playoff system based on their performance in recent years?
Organizing the divisions by recent performance would penalize the third, fourth and fifth place teams in the Red since they would have to compete for playoff spots with the top teams in the today's White division (assuming they moved up).
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