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TOPIC: New USSSA Bat Rules |
| Ryno34
October 21, 2010 12:12:30 PM
Entry #: 3597798
| http://www.usssa.com/usssa/usssa-general/SoftballBat.pdf
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| Guvna14
October 21, 2010 12:34:33 PM
Entry #: 3597817
| This mainly pertains to tournaments...Rec leagues that are independant will still have their choice. In Taunton's league, Utrip tried to enforce the mush ball and Taunton then went and trained their own umpires to go to NSA. No matter what, there are millions of dollars in bats that are out there before the ABI (Advanced Break in) bats that won't simply be left on the shelves. For those that don't know the ABI, it's basically any bat manufactured prior to 2010. All ASA approved bats should still be legal for all Utrip play no matter what. Sure, they'll reduce the BPF for the future, but all leagues will still have the choice to govern their own rules.
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| DUTILLY
October 21, 2010 2:16:02 PM
Entry #: 3597888
| Ok heres my 2 cents.....you will never ever level the playing field for this simple reason....take guys like ernie wright and chris knight....no matter what kind of bat u put in there hands if its composite...metal or wood they could seriously hurt somebody....my opinion is if your afraid to get hurt then stay the fuck home and dont play...plain and simple...and this is coming from me who got hurt playing softball 8 yrs ago and was out of work for 14 months with no income at all and to this day has never recovered...but also is coming from someone who is not aloud on the field by any team that i play on..if ur worried about everyones safety then maybe the number one rulE in softball should be....DONT EVER WALK ERNIE WRIGHT....THIS WILL PUT EVERYONES LIFE IN DANGER ON THE OPPOSING TEAM.....tHIS WHOLE FUCKING SPORT IS SO MONEY DRIVEN BY A BUNCH OF CLOWNS ...AND ALSO A SPORT WHERE NOBODY MAKE S MONEY TO PLAY IT...EXCEPT FOR THAT SUPERSTAR KIRBY MURPHY...its all a bunch of horse shit...so now everyones bats that they have had for over the yrs are gonna be no good in 2012..just so these pricks can make billions of more dollars on these new bats. maybe they should take all big vehicles off the road because if they collide with the small vehicle they will be crushed..... im gonna start a cult and avenge on all these pricks that think they know it all douchebags............................................................ sorry i just felt it necassary to explode like demonti does
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| DeMonti
October 21, 2010 3:45:39 PM
Entry #: 3597968
| well slurred gums! you toothless ranting homo!
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| OTR_31
October 21, 2010 6:17:54 PM
Entry #: 3598093
| So essentially, the brand new bat I just bought will only be able to be used next year, and then I'll have to put it away and break in a new one for 2012?
Super.
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| Nate_6
October 22, 2010 7:26:37 AM
Entry #: 3598383
| So just put it to a vote.... if league votes to keep old bats,no need to buy new ones unless you plan on playing tournaments. Sponorships should pick up the tab on new bats for those.
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| Guvna14
October 22, 2010 10:23:11 AM
Entry #: 3598498
| A-Hole, if the bat that you just bought is an ABI bat and this year's model, you should be fine. email me at guvna14@hotmail.com if you have any questions...I've been in talks with a coupl of the utrip area directors lately....I might be able to shed some light.
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| guapo
October 22, 2010 12:02:35 PM
Entry #: 3598574
| I'd love to know what the bat companies bottom lines look like in comparison to 10 years ago. Composite bats cost more, but if you don't cheat they last for years. I got 3 1/2 years out of a Jeff Hall Mayhem while using it in several Turkey Trots when the temperatures were in the 40's. Aluminum bats would dent and need to be replaced on a yearly basis. On a side note, I played Twilight this year against a team that didn't hit a single HR against us at City Park. Now I am playing the same team at Clegg in Fall ball and they are hitting them out even to the opposite field with a very "questionable" composite bat. It really makes me want to vomit. What really pisses me off is that the bat companies surely can manufacture bats that are tamper proof. Instead, they makes bats that are fairly easy to alter which reduces their lifespan and they sell more bats. I just hate the fact that when nowadays when I play games I feel like I am bringing a knife to a gun fight because so many guys are using illegal bats.
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| DeMonti
October 22, 2010 1:43:23 PM
Entry #: 3598654
| wah wah wah wah, fucking cry babies, wah wah wah wah wah wah wah
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| guapo
October 22, 2010 2:51:40 PM
Entry #: 3598717
| Another well thought out and highly intelligent response. Keep patting yourself on the back for hitting 280 foot HR's with juiced bats.
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| DeMonti
October 22, 2010 3:32:07 PM
Entry #: 3598747
| nah, ill just keep bitching about it like you, thats way more intelligent, crying about something you have no control over, atta boy. long live the shaved bat!!!!!!!!!!!
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| DeMonti
October 22, 2010 3:40:47 PM
Entry #: 3598755
| another intelligent and highly thought out solution to your little problem would be to just simply quit, if you dont like whats going on in the sport and feel as if you are bringing a knife to a gun fight, find something less aggravating and a hobbie that you actually have control over, like solitaire. or, do what everyone else does, bring a gun to a gun fight, and not bitch about it. and thanks for calling me an uneducated less than intelligent person asshole, i think i may have spoken two fuckin words to you in my life so way to be wicked smart and base your impression of somebody solely on what you read on this fuckin nonsense website. have a good weekend you little bat nazi.
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| guapo
October 22, 2010 6:43:33 PM
Entry #: 3598861
| I never said you were unintelligent, I said your post was unintelligent. Do you think wah wah wah fucking cry baby wah wah wah was an intelligent response to anything I said? I didn't want to go here, but when I watched he Finals this year I heard a loads players in the league, including some who were playing, raise questions about the legality of some bats being used in the game. I have no clue whether it's true or not, but it sucks that in a very good 3 game Finals all the talk was about a bat, not some of the leagues best players. I have no problem with you Mike. People tell me you are a good guy. But you aren't the only one allowed to have an opinion and share it on the board. Thanks for calling me little though. That's the first time that word has been used to describe me in a long time!
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| Ryno34
October 22, 2010 11:38:44 PM
Entry #: 3598997
| I was just sharing something I found that will impact everyone in some way or another. Either in Coventry or their other elagues and tournaments.
For the record you are all unintelligent and queer.
Ryno out until March 2011.
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| E W 3 3
October 23, 2010 10:58:32 PM
Entry #: 3599406
| Ryno started growing his winter fur coat about 25 years ago. Have a nice hibernation! As for bats I think that anything in Knight and Lesniak's hand should be considered a lethal weapon. Kirby doesn't even deserve mention for the level of sandbagging he is doing whenever he appears in our league. The guy hits a mushball 450 feet at will. I will say that anyone that uses a shaved bat is being a moron. The potential to kill someone and be sued alone should be deterrent enough. How many of us have tried to hit an opposite field homerun only to get just a bit on top of the ball and hit it straight back at the pitcher. With a shaved bat that ball could have killed the pitcher instead of gone off his glove. That reason alone should be enough to convince you it's a bad idea. Never mind the simple fact that it is fuckin cheating. I have never and will never use a shaved bat. I had to join twilight and swing non composites this year with Guapo just to make a believer out of him!
I think forcing people to buy new bats for 2012 is just plain retarded. I hope it is all bullshit but anything is possible. Any sanction that forces you to move up a division after placing in the top 10 for the national tournament but will allow you to drop back down if you pay X number of dollars is a fuckin joke anyway. I happen to really enjoy the USSSA arc more than the other sanctions and their umpires are far superior to their NSA and ASA counterparts, but the sanction is run at least on the national level by a bunch of money grubbing assclowns.
See some of you in the morning!
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| hinske
October 24, 2010 10:21:47 PM
Entry #: 3600063
| Bottom line is that guys that can't hit will always blame a bat. You can't fathom the fact that ew hits it 400 ft and you hit it 180 sweating your ass off. Bats dont make you better brotha just makes the homers a little more pretty. If anything the new bats make jokes like you barely hit it out of foster and change a game you have no business playing in. You can call me unintelligent aswell if you would like but i'd be willing to bet you are some sort of town worker or male nurse. Go to wood if you like you will still have to duck because you suck at softball!
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| guapo
October 24, 2010 11:31:27 PM
Entry #: 3600131
| Thanks for the unprovoked bashing.
Am I one of the best players in the league at age 43? Not by a long shot, but I would think if you'd ask anyone that has played me they will tell you that I can still help good teams win. I am never a fan of people who toot their own horns, but I did bat in the middle of a lineup that won two championships so that must mean I have some measure of ability.
I'm glad all the LEGO's I donated to your toy drive last Christmas earned me the pleasure of getting lambasted on a personal level.
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| guapo
October 24, 2010 11:40:45 PM
Entry #: 3600136
| I'm all done with this back and forth. It gets me nowhere. You guys can all think whatever you want about me. All I really care about is having fun and and hopefully having the respect and friendship of some of the great guys that I have met through playing in this league.
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| tuck00
October 25, 2010 12:47:23 AM
Entry #: 3600166
| Using a shaved bat is douchey if anyone is for a number of reasons that EW touched on such as hurting, maiming or killing someone. A shaved bat definitely makes hitters better because the ball comes off the bat quicker which means ground balls and line drives and fly balls do carry not only further but faster, which is the real key. No one around here is pd to play and we all occasionally mishit one at the pitcher I DEFINITELY do not condone shaved bats and if anyone on any team I run were to swing them and I found out, I would cut them immediately. I have no problem with rolling a bat because you are just breaking it in quicker, who has time to take BP to break a bat in, but shaving is a no-no. I also am not accusing anybody of it either, it is almost impossible to prove so why talk about it, we play based on the honor system. I at 46, am a finess, punch and judy hitter so I don't want a bat with any extra juice I like my well placed pop ups and well placed ground balls. Timebomb go easy on Guapo your both good dudes and he doesn't understand your sick sense of humor. In fact we need those Mikey pictures from, I believe Dan's Place that wonderful night a few months ago, boy was he,oops I mean she HOT. Cmon Ian put them back up.
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| tuck00
October 25, 2010 12:49:58 AM
Entry #: 3600168
| GOOOOOOOOOOT YOOOOOOOUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| cknight
October 25, 2010 7:56:16 AM
Entry #: 3600229
| I know there were a lot of accusations by people that J's bat that people on CM used was altered. All I can say is that it is not and if anyone wants to put the time and money into having it sent out to be tested feel free. All we ask is that when it comes back please just replace it if it comes back clean. Rather than bitch and moan and say we cheat here is your chance. Take up a donation, test the bat and end all the controversy.
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| Nate_6
October 25, 2010 8:29:29 AM
Entry #: 3600251
| There will never be an end to controversy. Unless people learn to take losing better. As long as there are sore losers around,there will always be accusations. I was at the finals,didn't matter what bat the dude was swinging,he is a beast and would have launched those out with a Bombat from 1984. A good swing on a ball makes all the difference.
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| Duff 23
October 25, 2010 9:27:46 AM
Entry #: 3600292
| what the fuck does a town worker have to do with anything? shit! guess i suck!
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| DUTILLY
October 25, 2010 11:22:19 AM
Entry #: 3600431
| love it....duff has spoken
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| hinske
October 25, 2010 9:47:30 PM
Entry #: 3601072
| Nothing personal and the kid's of coventry appreciate the donations that were made and we will be doing the toy drive again. Never said you wern't a stand up guy either, but every year its the same thing bats bats bats. Shit i use a bat made by reebok that was donated by botehlo to the help hinske hit again fund. I am starting to think LB4LB single handedly cost me my season.
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| iWitch-hunt
October 26, 2010 6:10:33 PM
Entry #: 3601858
| Another bipolar poster?? WTF. There is meds for this shit. If nothing else type your post in word, save it and cut and paste it a couple hours earlier to avoid looking like such a douchebag. Dean is a great dude that has gotten absolutely splattered over this shit. Turn your head, deny it, lie, do whatever you feel appropriate. Fact of the matter is these bats exist. Maybe not so much in Coventry, but def across the state. Anyone also notice Dean rarely plays anymore? I do, and the league, and anyone that knows him is missing out. Sometimes Hinske you just shoot your mouth off and it just is not called for. Are you a stand up guy? Absolutely. Does someone got to worry about you talking behind there back? Who knows, prob not, usually you say it to there face. But sometimes I wonder where the filter is that simply keeps some of your thoughts in your head. You know I like you as a person, but sometimes some of a persons best thoughts are kept to themselves. I fully intend for this to not go back and forth as a pissing contest, I will not even be logging in anymore. Softball hibernation has begun, going into my gave and trying to put on another 150lbs this winter
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| E W 3 3
October 27, 2010 9:46:22 PM
Entry #: 3602818
| I feel the need to stick up for Guapo also known as Dean Amoroso. Hinske, I'm sure you are just trying to be funny but Dean is one of the best players around. He is still a sought after hitter and a pretty damn good pitcher (even though I do love hitting off him). He is 43 and still one of the best hitters in our sunday morning league. He does all the little things right and is a great teammate. I hate to see him get bashed on here for his unhappiness with bats. I think we all know that shaved bats are being used. You need to look no further than the bat posted on Ebay by Mark Yehle earlier this year or late last year to see a prime example. He was a player on A plus a few years ago for those of you that do not know who Mark is.
Chris as for your claims that the bat was legit... in no way would i accuse you of needing a shaved bat to hit the ball out of ravenwoods, but even the umpires were waiting for someone to get struck with a ball to take that bat out of play. It is possible that it is just well broken in. It is possible that there was nothing wrong with that bat, but let's face it when some guys that aren't known for their power were hitting home runs that were going 350 feet almost at will i must say something seems fishy. I won't be paying for any bats to be checked out and in the bigger picture it doesn't matter if the bat was shaved. You guys won and congratulations, but Dean is right when he says that bats in this league aren't all on the up and up. To those guys that are always going to get questioned like Knight, Lesniak, Playa, and Kirby that just comes with the territory and it does suck, but thank those teammates and fellow league members that cause the controversy by swinging that nice new shaved piece from Artie... I mean Ebay.
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| DeMonti
October 28, 2010 8:15:23 AM
Entry #: 3602970
| ok, heres my two cents, i dont give a fuck if you put a wiffle ball bat in knights or neils hands, they are gonna hit the ball 350, and as far as all you sore losers that cant except the fact that you got beat completely fairly and with legit bats, go in a corner and suck your thumb, you will prolly have better results. i will pay the money to have the bat checked for all you pussy sore losers and pay out of my own pocket to put this crying wah wah wah knight has a shaved bat bullshit, cuz im pretty fuckin sick of it. i know knight very well and he would never cheat at anything, its called talent fellas, most of you dont have it so you would never know what it feels like. so whenever you guys are ready let me know the cost and i will pay to have the bat tested so you dont have to cry all winter about bats and getting beat by a better team, cuz its out of everyones control and people are gonna cheat, deal with it, its just like every sport, people are always gonna cheat, i dont like or condone it, but i deal with it and move on, its a fucking game. and i wouldnt want to see anyone get hurt, but its a risk all of us take when we take the field. so that being said, i will not post or dont want anyone posting on this matter untill the results are in please. and as far as slezak goes, i love you buddy, but you gotta stop following ernie around licking his nuts and chiming in about bats bud, cuz i hate to say, you were pretty vocal at the summer finals this year cuz all your boys were gettn beat, i beleive neil had to tell you to shut the fuck up a few times too, back your boy dean all you want about bats, rip hinske all you want for having a sac to speak his mind and have an opinion, but realize that no matter what bat you put in your hands, you still suck, and i will walk the entire league to get to you anyday and 4 times on sunday bro. D OUT!
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| cknight
October 28, 2010 8:25:22 AM
Entry #: 3602976
| Agreed Ernie. The only thing I would like to add, and this is not said with any piss and vinegar, is who hit homeruns with that synergy that does not hit them? Duce actually hit less homeruns this year than last. Mello didn't hit many at all. I know everyone points a finger at J. For those who were in the league when we won it last time J was hitting pinch hit homeruns for us and crushed the ball way back then. On top of that I played ball with J from little league through legion and he crushes the ball plain and simple. I am defending him because everyone points fingers at him because he teh size of a smurf. I can honestly say j is one of the strongest people I know and has been since junior high. I am not saying for his size I am saying compared to anyone any size. I agree with you that a few apples cause eyebrows to raise everytime a ball flys. The guys on CM know whats what and it doesn't bother us when people question bats on our team. Anytime you win or have success people question it and so be it. We are a close team of all friends that just laugh when we hear it. I am sure you get a chuckle out of it to because you have no need to get any advantage. I am sure you are like me and if I cannot play the way I want then I will retire before I cheat. The funny thing is that Neil has the same identical synergy to jimmy that we will be swinging this year because J's bat is gonna break at some point. Once that happens his bat will be questioned by people in the league too. It's all good. There are athletes in this league (or I should say former atheletes turned softball players) that are just gifted. I love the people tha tnever played a sport in their life, have success on the softabll field and think they can call out people that have been top tier atheltes in the state in their hay day. It's just funny and I get it kick out of it as anyone who played real sports does too.
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| lb4lb-7
October 28, 2010 8:35:31 AM
Entry #: 3602979
| A. Hinske is funny and Im sure no harm intended B Dean is one of the best hitters in the league and when you combine the fact that he pitches that makes him one of the best 10 players in the league..EZ...right up there with me, EW, Pete, Neil, and Thacker. And dont start with ThackSmack...I predict a breakout year next year. C. I havent heard anybody say that CM won the Championship because of a shaved bat. I have heard that the bat was very hot, however,..mostly from Matt Clark. They would have won even if they were swinging plumbers wrenches. D. Yeah, the Reebok Bat gift to Hinske was a diabolical plan...reducing Hinske into a muttering popup machine by seasons end. Hey, if it aint the bat when you hit it 350 then it aint the bat when you hit it 150 !!
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| cknight
October 28, 2010 8:41:43 AM
Entry #: 3602982
| also just wanted to add I could see the acusations if goodie, deware, dolan, etc where hitting missles left and right. They were not and that is not there game. I know for a fact there was a dirty bat on Botehlo's. I am not saying that it was used by any means but why even have one? I have fun playing every team in the league and there are always a few douchebags that you can't stand but it is what it is. WOur team gets along with every team so when you hear people runnign their mouths about you all we do is take a mental note and move on for when we play them. Again i am not calling anyone out. I think the new balls we used actaully helped weed out true power hitters in the league. If you look at several top hitters last year and then look at their stats this year its almost comical. I would love to call out several of them but thats not me. Our team jokes about it because no matter what ball or bat is used our team always feels we have the advantage with the guys on our team.
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| cknight
October 28, 2010 8:44:50 AM
Entry #: 3602985
| This is the most i posted in my life. I just want to clarify so nobody twists my words. The bat I referred to on Botehlo's I am not saying anyone used in any games. So please do not infer that I am saying EW, Tommy, Ricky or anyone used it.
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| hinske
October 28, 2010 8:48:20 AM
Entry #: 3602987
| Slezak I've never been as good as you at cupping the balls or carrying bat bags, and your right my filter is broken, but sugar coating things aint my style. For the record i couldnt tell you what quapo looks like so nothing personal. He could be a beast for all i know, but complaining about bats gets old.
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| cknight
October 28, 2010 8:51:06 AM
Entry #: 3602991
| I would love to know who said the bat was very hot because how would they even know. That is the funny part. Oh J hit a ball 330 out of raven woods, that bat must be shaved. That is what it comes down too. If you ever watch J play he will go 3 - sunday and it looks like he is going to throw his back out everytime he swings. So when he does make contact it flies. I suppose his cleats must be dirty too because he is one of the fasted guys in the league too. J send those cleats out to be tested!!
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| hinske
October 28, 2010 8:51:51 AM
Entry #: 3602992
| Shaved4Shaved my season was derailed when my shaved bat was broken by dutilly who shaved it for me. The reebok doesnt allow me to hit because its legal.
so I guess i can't technically hit hense Thacker taking my spot as one of the top ten in the league.
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| DUTILLY
October 28, 2010 9:13:11 AM
Entry #: 3603006
| Demonti...u cant speak...you have never been past the 2nd round of the playoffs so shut it..maybe u should have used a shaved bat when Ryman beat ur ass in the home run derby..hahahahahahahahah..
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| DUTILLY
October 28, 2010 9:17:33 AM
Entry #: 3603008
| and demonti...get neils cock out of ur mouth...you talk about slezak blowing ernie...every one of ur post are ...oh neil this...oh neil that..he hits this he hits that...ur pathetic
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| DUTILLY
October 28, 2010 9:20:17 AM
Entry #: 3603013
| so whos bat on our team was shaved?
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| Goody
October 28, 2010 9:24:50 AM
Entry #: 3603018
| Anyone, cheese with their whine? Take your loss like a man. Is this a woman's league? No shaved bats or modified bats were used on CM that I am aware of. Maybe I'm ignorant or not in the "Circle of trust" but I'm not even aware of anyone on our team even having one. "Hot bat"... please. This is to all the people in the league that do use them... IF YOU HAVE... AND OR USE... A SHAVED BAT... YOUR A FUCKING LOSER!!! PLAIN AND SIMPLE... A FUCKING LOSER!!! GET A FUCKING LIFE!!! If you need to stroke your ego, or lack there of, by hitting a softball 200' over a fence on Sunday mornings... well... your pathetic.
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| cknight
October 28, 2010 9:25:54 AM
Entry #: 3603020
| Dutilly I am not going to get into that. As far as i am concerned this is over and its pretty funny that people still have doubts on the bat we used. Oh well. And i will say the info came from your own team.
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| DUTILLY
October 28, 2010 9:39:06 AM
Entry #: 3603027
| im am not whining or neither is anyone on our team..u guys beat us i was the first one at home plate to congragulate u guys...i like every one of u guys.....except walker........chris if the info came from our team..thats news to me ...prob botelho....but i dont know who would say that and bagged their own teamates...
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| cknight
October 28, 2010 9:43:03 AM
Entry #: 3603029
| the same goes for us and you guys. in the end we are all friends and I have known you forever too. just to clarify it was not broguht up in the context of so and so has a shaved bat. it was a conversation where our bat was questioned and we said it wasn't and have no idea were to even get one (which for me is the honest to god truth) and then it was oh i have scene one so and so has one, doesn't use it but it is in the bat bag. that's all.
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| DUTILLY
October 28, 2010 9:48:31 AM
Entry #: 3603034
| i hear ya....and i wanna know who ur talking about when u say athletes in their hay day? def not botelho..ask him about the ground ball he booted in the midget olympics to lose the bronze medal...
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| cknight
October 28, 2010 9:51:17 AM
Entry #: 3603037
| I have said my peace about all of this, maybe too much. I will end it by saying good luck to everyone next year and everything i said prior is not said to start any BS with anyone. I just wanted to defend my team and more importantly my friends. We may just send the bat out to get tested seeing it is going to break sooner or later and then when it comes back 100% clean I want to hear why we hit the way we do.
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| Goody
October 28, 2010 9:55:22 AM
Entry #: 3603040
| I shave my balls... is that cheating?
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| lb4lb-7
October 28, 2010 10:34:07 AM
Entry #: 3603066
| The record on this is foggy: i didnt hear any person on our team say that we lost because CM had a shaved bat. Not one. The only guys that hit it out that I recall were J and Chris Knight and they hit them out of anywhere with any bat. A couple of Goodwins bloops were less bloopy than normal...but he wasnt even using the bat in question. Wait, that means they had two shaved bats. Those fuckers. One shaved bat is just plain trying hard to win. But TWO? Lags bat should be checked as well. God knows how much it weighs AS IT NEVER LEFT HIS SHOULDER! Delete this thread. Its silly to argue bats. No bat ever won a game nor a championship.
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| Goody
October 28, 2010 10:47:58 AM
Entry #: 3603080
| I missed you too Bob!
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| lb4lb-7
October 28, 2010 10:52:24 AM
Entry #: 3603086
| HA!
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| lb4lb-7
October 28, 2010 10:56:18 AM
Entry #: 3603091
| morning Goody. Stevens is in possession of the MegaPhone now...beware. Speaking of Stevens, another "Stevens Triple" was hit Sunday...Bri...post the pick of the latest pair of underwear that died a poetic and valiant death failing to hold back one of your steamers.
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| cknight
October 28, 2010 11:28:38 AM
Entry #: 3603122
| Bob i could not agree more. Very well said.
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| DeMonti
October 28, 2010 12:41:45 PM
Entry #: 3603173
| hey toothless, i was in the final sunday and lost to a good stabbers team, remember, and all the cum you have taken out of ernies cock over the years is in the thousands of gallons, all you ernie blowers say is ernie this ernie that, and how good he is, your rite, an excellent player, but shouldnt even be mentioned in the same sentence as knight, ernie lives breathes and cums softball, plays 6 or 7 days a week and prolly takes 150 swings a week, knight plays sunday mornings and takes 8 to 10 swings a week and batted .766 with 22 hrs, ernie batted .598 with13 hrs, your whole team rite down your roster played at least 3 times a week including tournys, cms lineup with the exception of lags and neil played once a week and they beat you, you guys arnt even in the same league talent wise as cm, you should be embarrassed you lost to a bunch of oawmf's, and in your embarrassment you tools come out and question the legitamicy of a bat, hahahahaha, what a buch of fuckin sore loser bitter assholes, you guys should quit, its called talent people, knight can take 10 swings a week and make all you fuckers carry his bag to the field, clearly a far superior athlete in the league hands down, say im blowing him i dont care, they beat you legitimatly withouyt a stupid shaved bat and you guys in november almost are still questioning his fuckin bat, what a bunch of cunts, christ i batted better than anyone on your team and i suck, do i swing a shaved bat too with my whopping 9 hrs? you guys fucking suck and should be embarrassed for even coming on here and saying theres something"FISHY" about j's bat, he is prolly the best all around athlete in the league and i also have played ball with both him and knight since we were 12, they put any of you assholes to shame, what a joke!
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| DeMonti
October 28, 2010 12:44:26 PM
Entry #: 3603176
| hey guapo, was that intelligent enough of a post for you, or was that just another stupid demonti post?
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| Goody
October 28, 2010 1:19:51 PM
Entry #: 3603196
| Thinking of Stevens "triple" just made the chili I am eating for lunch a little less tasty.
Mikey... how much did Jimbo pay you for the best athlete in the league? I say hands down Wayne Walker is the best athlete in the league.
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| DeMonti
October 28, 2010 1:44:02 PM
Entry #: 3603222
| and just to make sure everyone is clear on this, im not trying to take anything away from ernie or anyone elses ability, but i can remember a few years ago when i came on here and ripped smitty a new asshole how quick ernie came to his defense on here and ripped me a new asshole on how i sucked and didnt know anything about team play and i couldnt carry his bat bag to the field and so on, lb4lb dig that old chestnut up or gopher, its on here somewhere, but nevertheless, i felt the need to come on here and back my boys up because i will not stand for anyone coming on here and questioning one or any of my boys legitimacy or any accusations towards what they have accomplished in their play in this league due to them cheating or doing anything illegal in their great season and their championship they won this year. its not rite and by saying what you guys are saying is taking away from their glory that they all deserve and earned fairly. dont be a bunch of haters cuz you guys lost and cant hit the ball as far or as good as these guys, its a game fellas, not a career, so what would be the point of cheating when you get paid nothing and have zero to gain from it, especially if your a once a week motherfucker. and just because you stayed at a holiday inn express last nite sure as hell doesnt make you an athlete.
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| Nate Daggett
October 28, 2010 2:05:12 PM
Entry #: 3603238
| The only bat that is not normal on CM is the shit stained one Goody sits on before games but a little crap never made him hit the ball any further.
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| DUTILLY
October 28, 2010 2:49:28 PM
Entry #: 3603261
| Demonti..i never once came on here and questioned there bat....and if u wanna talk about stats u gotta compare apples to apples...i def agree that knight is one of the best in our league hands down but he plays at ravenwood yr round and we play at nike site with right field being 360ft...ur faggot ass plays at foster...even i turned around right handed in playoffs and hit one and beat ur ass.......hahahahah sucker....ur just kissing there ass cause u wanna play for them next yr and chase a championship...ur a fucking bum and suck at softball...just quit...and by the way the best player in our league is Gopher....
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| DUTILLY
October 28, 2010 2:55:56 PM
Entry #: 3603266
| and by the way demonti...ur seasons stats went down the tube when u went 0-5 in the playoffs and got benched.........hahahahaha fucking puddin is better than u
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| buddah walker
October 28, 2010 3:44:23 PM
Entry #: 3603298
| wait why the fuck does DU aka DKNY say he hates me? is it i am always on a winning team :) so sorry fuckin sore losers get a better team stop ur bitching about bats and shit.
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| buddah walker
October 28, 2010 3:47:42 PM
Entry #: 3603301
| maybe you guys that are crying show play like a TEAM an not worry about ur own personal homer runs or avg. you might be a better team. But hey the year is over enjoy ur off time drink,drug,workout, shave ur ass or ur bats you still wont win it teill you play all togehter as a TEAM.
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| DUTILLY
October 28, 2010 3:48:03 PM
Entry #: 3603302
| LOL....IT TOOK U LONG ENOUGH TO RESPOND....I DONT HATE U... I LOVE ALL MEN WITH SHAVED HEADS
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| buddah walker
October 28, 2010 3:51:26 PM
Entry #: 3603306
| i never come on here because listening all this crying i feel like i am in the ACI again lol but i hope everyone has a good winter be safe and see you guys and babbies in the spring
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| DUTILLY
October 28, 2010 3:55:32 PM
Entry #: 3603309
| HEY DEMONTI...WHERES UR NEXT POST ? FAGGOT
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| Goody
October 28, 2010 4:01:43 PM
Entry #: 3603317
| Think there is plenty of evidence to show that Dutilly must be using shaved condoms. Perhaps he is the one with the shaved bat? Just saying.
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| DeMonti
October 28, 2010 4:02:44 PM
Entry #: 3603318
| hey dute, hows this, wash oak or jokes, me and you, ill bat lefty you can bat lafty, i bet 500 bucks i beat you in a hr derby, and loser has to shut their fuckin mouth for a year on this website, hows that toothless??? and i wasnt boasting my stats pal, and i benched myself playoffs cuz i sucked, im not the one on here crying about bats either asshole, at least i can admit i sucked, your old washed up ass runs out a bloop single and needs double knee surgury you fuckin criple fuck hahahaha, and i should quit?? ill smoke you in anything you want to play me at, except baby makin, cuz your dumb ass still hasnt learned to pull his cock out when hes gonna cum, they used your family for a stunt double in cheaper by the dozen, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha you fuckin bum!
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| DeMonti
October 28, 2010 4:13:36 PM
Entry #: 3603323
| you know what, ill even beat you lefty at ravenwood you fuckin little cunt, 500 and one year of banishment to the loser, gopher can organize it, me and you both lefty, whenever your ready jerry lewis!
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| lb4lb-7
October 28, 2010 4:54:55 PM
Entry #: 3603359
| Oh God, Demo, you arent wearing a lb4lb shirt right now are you? It should be said that the contents of demos rants are his opinions only and not the opinions of lb4lb sports nor Botelho insurance, its partners associates or subsidiaries.
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| iWitch-hunt
October 28, 2010 5:04:07 PM
Entry #: 3603366
| I cup EW balls to make up for my short comings, I agree with everything said by Hinske and Demonti. Only reason I play is because EW makes the teams take me on, as a charity case, because he is so awesome and can get what he wants whenever he wants it. That being said, if any of you think you can carry his bat bag and pay his league fees and umpire money better than me, the job is yours. I have to work and pay for the ability to walk next to him. It is quite sad. But oh well, it's way better than being a loner. Thanks for exposing my weakness and exploiting it. If I didn't snap my belt and/or shoe strings I would be swinging from them now
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| E W 3 3
October 28, 2010 5:53:55 PM
Entry #: 3603398
| I am getting shredded on a message board for speaking my mind ... but it's cool when Demonti, Hinkse and others do it. I should be embarrassed because I need to play 6 or 7 days a week to still put up 1/10th of the stats of Knight? That fact does not embarrass me. Knight is a fine athlete and to even be compared to him at all is a compliment to anyone. I still remember meeting Chris in the Harris the first time and after Artie introduces me to him he says, "If you ever want a hitting lesson just let me know."
I play a lot of softball, because I like to. Some people enjoy ranting and raving like a lunatic while in some beer induced coma. Hey if that's what you are into knock yourself out.
It's amusing to me to read this thread and see that the only intelligent responses to anything I said came from Knight who could have been and rightly so the most offended. Thanks for understanding unlike some others Chris.
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| tuck00
October 28, 2010 6:31:12 PM
Entry #: 3603422
| Demonti, You almost had me pissing my pants again with the Dutilly and condom comments. This is a smack board and nobody should take it personal, I actually think this is some funny shit. Neil played for my C team and I even asked if it was shaved, not because of how far Knight hits them because after watching him hit I'm convinced he could hit it out with any bat in his hands, but because of the sound of the bat. Neil told me it wasn't and I trust Neil, because when U see him hit it as hard as he does all yr round with different bats you can tell he is just a great hitter, and took his word for it then and still believe it to be true today. I been around tourney ball for a long time and if a shaved bat is being used by someone in the league, who gives a shit, it doesn't guarantee you will win. My only contention, and I'm not accussing anyone, but if someone is using one stay off the middle cause I hate the sight of blood and wouldn't want someone getting hurt because of that, it is hard enough to be a pitcher. Let's stop with the bat comments because you are not going to prove it so it is a pointless conversation. The only person who I would say can swing one is Dutilly cause his game has gone downhill really quickly, my game left me long ago, but I still love the game. Demonti go F**k yourself
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| DUTILLY
October 28, 2010 6:37:51 PM
Entry #: 3603427
| 500 bucks? are u kidding me? i wouldnt crawl out of bed for 500 bucks....if u wanna do it its 3000 bucks u cheap fuck......u already had ryman beat ur ass in a derby....save urself from being embarresed by an old beat up toothless fuck......and goody....whats a condom?
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| cknight
October 28, 2010 8:14:14 PM
Entry #: 3603492
| Thanks for the compliments Ernie and no worries its all good. I chuckled when I read that about the harris. I must have been wasted!!
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| Stevens 4
October 28, 2010 8:16:50 PM
Entry #: 3603493
| Knight sucks. Here is the picture of my shitty shorts in the garbage. Hibernation time.

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| Ant6377
October 28, 2010 8:32:49 PM
Entry #: 3603507
| First i would like to say Hinske stop picking on town workers or you are going to have a mountain of garbage left at your house. Bottom line on this bat thing is I speak from personal friendships i have with some of the Moulton guys nobody on that team would ever think of cheating they have to much integrity. Although J is a douche when he is drunk he is probably the best athlete in this league.
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| hinske
October 28, 2010 8:37:20 PM
Entry #: 3603512
| wahhhhh wahhhh wahh go ruin another team!!!!!!
And i can't believe you would say i drink coke. My brother works for pepsi you jerk.
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| DUTILLY
October 28, 2010 9:13:28 PM
Entry #: 3603536
| hinske..lay off my boyfriend...between u and demonti u guys were 1-12in the playoffs with a 260ft fence in left field...
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| guapo
October 28, 2010 9:30:19 PM
Entry #: 3603549
| I just had great game at Clegg with bunch of guys that don't think that the mens adult softball is the most important thing in the world. Now I'm going to have a piece of homemade apple pie. So to those of you manly men with anger management issues that need professional help, I won't be thinking of you while I curl up on my couch to watch the World Series with my family.
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| Nate_6
October 29, 2010 8:03:06 AM
Entry #: 3603700
| who is Thacker???
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| hinske
October 29, 2010 8:14:11 AM
Entry #: 3603704
| Dutilly if you didn't crack my shaved bat i would have so hit it out a bunch of times.
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| DUTILLY
October 29, 2010 8:26:50 AM
Entry #: 3603712
| maybe if u paid me the 100 bucks to shave it i wouldnt have broke it
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| DeMonti
October 29, 2010 8:50:56 AM
Entry #: 3603733
| hey guapo, i hope while you were sittn on your couch with your fam watchn the world series you choked and died on your verbal vomit douche bag, let me know the number of your shrink so i can get some professional help. hahahahahahahahahaha
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| Lags
October 29, 2010 10:20:52 AM
Entry #: 3603816
| verbal vomit...haha thats funny
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| juice66
October 29, 2010 12:10:54 PM
Entry #: 3603905
| I will put an end to this bat talk. I was at J's house he said, "I bought a new bat." He shows me the bat still in the rapper and asks, "is this bat any good?" I said I don't know. Don't know anyone who uses it. He then responds, " it better be, it was like 300 bucks!" Needless to say, I don't think at this time jimmy even knew what a shaved bat was. Knowing J he saw the price tag,it was expensive,must be good,so he bought it. The End!!!
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| Ryno34
October 29, 2010 12:30:12 PM
Entry #: 3603919
| I had to come out of hibernation for this. My intent to posting that rule notification was not to induce a shaved bat argument for the 200th time but to inform that current bats are only grandfathered through 2012. So a guy like me where my bat only gets used by me, little Dave, and sometimes Stevens, it doesn't take alot of abuse or get hit very hard. So I figured it would last me a few years. Now I will have to buy a new one if I continue to play past 2012.
As for the shaving you need to accept that you topped out at a certain level. I am a .600 hitter with a little power. It probably puts me in the top 20-25 (guessing) hitters in the league. I am fine with that because I know my equipment is legit, and I am just an old hairy ape. I know some guys that have rolled theirs and I know some guys have the connections to shave, but I really don’t know who has one in his bag. I know Delpadre doesn’t because he sucks and he should get one.
Knight is a freak and can hit with a broomstick. My glove is still deformed from the rocket he hit at me over the middle in the playoffs. I gloved it and it blew through my glove so hard that it reached Tmac in the outfield. I can still out rebound him though.
At the risk of being accused of cupping balls, I played in non-composite leagues this year with or against EW, Ricky, Lags, Neil, and a few others. I don’t know if they have shaved composites in their bags or not. What I do know is none of them need them. They all mashed with older metal bats when I played with them.
Hinske is a Pepsi man. Now that was a funny response!
Demonti cheats at everything he does. Hitting, shuffleboard, golf, taxes, bingo, math, basketball, and hungry hungry hippos.
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| DUTILLY
October 29, 2010 2:23:19 PM
Entry #: 3604024
| your a 600 hitter? maybe in coed....and lags stinks...he def didnt swing a shaved bat in the championship game...he never had a chance to swing with 9 walks
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| E W 3 3
October 29, 2010 3:28:44 PM
Entry #: 3604073
| Lags is one of the most patient hitters I know. He is becoming a very high on base guy between hitting hard on the ground and beating it out and walks. The only thing Lags shaves is his arms.
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| DeMonti
October 29, 2010 3:32:02 PM
Entry #: 3604074
| ryno, you forgot women too, i cheat on them all the time haahahah. another clarification, rolling a bat is cheating also, and captain dentures has a rolling machine, wonder how many of the botelho bunch swings rolled bats????? all of them?? pot callin the kettle black i say, fuckin cheaters hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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| lb4lb-7
October 29, 2010 3:36:36 PM
Entry #: 3604078
| why does stevens even bother to buy white underwear?
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| Ryno34
October 29, 2010 3:54:14 PM
Entry #: 3604102
| Hahaha Mike I had actually typed women then deleted it. I didn't want to cross the line between ball busting and personal.
Someone please answer the larger question of why Stevens doesn't have a bedpan and baby wipes on him at all times?
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| DeMonti
October 31, 2010 10:13:33 AM
Entry #: 3604936
| and on another note, i will be sending a picture of my STILL BROKEN BAT to smitty today for the league to clear up any bat rumors you may of read about the legallity of mu mayham, i swear to all of you on my dead fathers soul and my daughters unborn children that i have never and will never swing a tampered bat and have or will never cheat at softball, those of you who know me know how important my daughter is to me and how i loved my father and would never swear to them if i wasnt telling the 100 percent gods honest truth. i will keep the bat for inspection by anyone who thinks otherwise. and as far as you dutilly, your comments forced me to bust your balls about rolling bats, which is clearly a bullshit rumor i decided to spread after your team calling a bat out, so i hope everyone disregards that because i have no clue what dutilly does in his spare time, i know he doesnt brush his teeth or buy condoms hahahahahaahahaha
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| DUTILLY
October 31, 2010 7:36:26 PM
Entry #: 3605265
| Forget all this shave d bat shit...ur more of a fucking clown for making out with that "PAT" AT THE CROWE BAR
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| hinske
October 31, 2010 9:54:00 PM
Entry #: 3605371
| Demonte we know it was a typo dutilly shaves boys and is not allowed within 500 ft of a school.
I think guys take this a bit too personal. If you have to accuse someone on a message board you should be able to take the heat that comes. the personal stuff that comes out is really classless.
now i know earnie meant no disrespect about me drinking coke but if that got out my brother could get fired.
Ryno i am extremely upset that you are in the top 25 and i wouldnt even get drafted. Damn you Botehlo.
I heard ernie cheats in twilight so they walked him and that set off the beginning of the end for the Botehlo squad. (just sayin if stevens was on the team it would have never happened) I think ricky had some inside info that Ernie's single wall had racket balls in it. Cheaters
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