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TOPIC: 25+ |
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| Anonymous
December 10, 2010
10:03:55 AM
Entry #: 3628770
| Any thoughts on changing this league to a 25+ league. Just to keep it the same as the MSBL league.
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| A's 00
December 10, 2010
10:18:52 AM
Entry #: 3628775
| I don't speak for the league, but I really doubt that would happen. FOY has been around a lot longer than MSBL and I can't see them changing their rules to just to match up with another league.
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| Sarge27
December 11, 2010
2:19:35 PM
Entry #: 3629156
| Why would this league want to be like the MSBL?
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| Linck
December 15, 2010
12:36:15 PM
Entry #: 3630880
| Lowering the age to +25 would probably give each team at least one new pitcher and garner the league a new team or two. (which is most important if you ask me)
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| matt 27
December 16, 2010
10:38:44 AM
Entry #: 3631278
| I totally agree with linck on this one. What does Archie think about it?
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| Sarge27
December 16, 2010
10:49:13 AM
Entry #: 3631287
| Change a rule that’s been successful for 65 years just to be like the MSBL, not likely.
Next you will want free substitutions…
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| the commish
December 16, 2010
3:42:30 PM
Entry #: 3631463
| The league has been strong enough to withstand many changes in its history. If this change would make the league stronger I am in favor. Let's be clear, we are talking about lowering the age by one year. You can play @ 25 but be 26 in the calendar year. Let's also be aware that the closer we get to college age players the more potential for age eligibility disputes. We may be approaching declared roster territory. The maturity level suffers with younger players.
If it would garner 2 good teams, it could be worth it. Most MSBL teams are not complete with 25 year olds. Why haven't they wanted to face this fierce FOY competition before now. Maybe let the June tourney decide if it is necessary?
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| Wildbill
December 17, 2010
9:46:22 AM
Entry #: 3631730
| Let's leave as is. We may then get Mon-Clair pitchers and players that will want to use our league for their spring training. Then when Mon-Clair begins their league they disappear, we've had that before.
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| Linck
December 22, 2010
6:57:15 PM
Entry #: 3633375
| If we do nothing we are more likely to have 7 teams in the league than 10.
I love the history of the FOYbut do you kids want to do something to help the league or shall we just keep our heads in the sand?
To me, this is all about getting more teams to play in the little sanctuary that we are lucky enough to play in.
This is my only rule suggestion for the off season. Other wise the league is perfect (minus it not being wood bat lololo).
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| pirate shortstop
January 8, 2011
12:23:25 AM
Entry #: 3637673
| i would be in favor of a 25 and over league, i would like to see more teams and more guys getting into it. it would only make some teams better. i would like to play for a long time, so it makes sense to try and get more teams out there.
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| Longhorns55
January 10, 2011
7:54:04 AM
Entry #: 3638161
| I don't know how much my opinion really matters here. Changing the age limit may help out a couple teams but I wouldn't think it would mean new teams to the league. Where would these teams come from? FOY is unique in that it offers a league with 30+ games at the same field against the same competition. That's likely too many games for teams that play in two leagues and I can't think of any established teams (teams that would make FOY better) that would jump to the FOY.
Like Sarge and someone else said, why change to stay the same as the MSBL?
I know it's none of my business...just thought I'd throw it out there.
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| Bulls#4
February 18, 2011
10:41:47 PM
Entry #: 3657288
| Longhorns, to a couple of your points. We play in two leagues and for a team like us or another team who would be willing to take on another 30 games, the ability to take on an extra pitcher or two would be huge. Also, if you think there aren't established teams out there that could contribute to the FOY, then you need to get out and check out some other baseball in the area.
I love playing FOY, but it might be nice to mix it up a little bit. Improving the quality of the product on the field is always a good thing as well. We all know there is not enough pitching to go around, and to me it all comes down to putting the best product on the field.
I'm not interested in playing with 18-year-olds, but there really isn't much of a difference between a 25 and a 26 year old except maybe their car insurance is slightly lower.
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| Longhorns 55
February 28, 2011
3:54:49 PM
Entry #: 3664081
| Yes, I understand. We play in two leagues as well and have done so for 4 years.
Your team chooses to play in two leagues with one being an 18+. So you can still pick up your extra pitcher or two for some of those games, but yet you still want the FOY to change the rules so you can have an extra pitcher on your FOY roster?
I'm not sure you understood my point about teams coming to the FOY. I know the St. Louis area as far as adult baseball goes, I don't need to get out and check out other baseball. I know that there are teams that can make the FOY better, but which of those teams do you think would play in the FOY if the age was lowered? I'm sorry, but lowering the age 1 or 2 years isn't going to drastically improve the "product on the field". All it really does is make everyone older.
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| FOY player
March 7, 2011
8:47:21 AM
Entry #: 3669374
| This is a good idea. I understand the league has been running for 65 or so years, but this kind of change would add some fresh legs and arms to the league. This is a minor adjustment and the commish is dead on when he says it might add an arm and a new bat for each team.
Concerns-
1. Why would we want to be like MSLB?
Counter ARG- We,re not. Simply expanding the pool of players that our teams can draw from. The maturity level is not a concern with a 1 year drop, and besides 45 year old men can be as immature as an 18 year old.
2. We'll b/c a spring training league.
Counter ARG- Many of the players in this league play somewhere else as well. The addition of this rule will not add an issue most teams don't deal with already. And pitchers are especially critical in multiple league play b/c of how teams have to divide up starts to comply with a player's schedule. If a guy pays his dues, he'll play the season and if not that's just more money in the bucket.
The expectation of adding additional teams b/c of this rule change is slim, but the opportunity to add some quality players is worth making the change. Especially for the weaker teams. There is a large disparity b/t the teams in this league and that by itself will cause some players to quit or even entire ball clubs to fold (Chiefs).
If some feel unfortable with the new faces and fear of some 21 year old kid sneaking into the league that's understandable. But, that's also an easy fix, allow opposing coaches to ID check. What is not an easy fix is adding quality players to an aging league and keeping the cellar teams paying and competing when they have the option to disband and go somewhere else where they could add some youth and win some games.
This is an area the league should look into for the health of the FOY. We have a nice park (thanks Nick), very resonable dues (that's why I play here) and a decent league play. This would give some of the cellar teams an opportunity to bolster their lineups and win some games, and that is reason enough for the change.
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| Longhorns55
March 8, 2011
11:34:38 AM
Entry #: 3670631
| Well, isn't this ironic. Now that the HMML has folded, we're looking for a league. Problem is....I have 3 26 year olds.
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March 8, 2011
2:12:00 PM
Entry #: 3670860
| Someone correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that if they will be 27 in this calendar year, they would be eligible.
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| Longhorns55
March 8, 2011
2:28:30 PM
Entry #: 3670882
| Right. I just talked to Archie. He said they had to be 27 in the calendar year. I have 4 guys that turn(ed) 26 this year. Too bad. Maybe next year.
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| Bulls #23
March 8, 2011
4:27:06 PM
Entry #: 3671050
| And there you have it... Lost a team by not dropping the age.
And for those who don't know, the Longhorns would have made us a better league.
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| Sarge27
March 8, 2011
6:00:49 PM
Entry #: 3671152
| See ya next year...they can wait like everyone else has.
Actually, see you in October hopefully.
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| Bulls #23
March 9, 2011
9:46:27 AM
Entry #: 3671496
| It was my understanding that many teams would have reconsidered their vote if there was an actual team looking to join the league.
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| WildBill
March 9, 2011
2:14:33 PM
Entry #: 3671786
| I don't think most tems would have changed their vote at least that's what I remember. I remember that the Bulls and Curleys may have voted to lower the age limit, but can't remember another team that was interested.
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March 12, 2011
10:54:46 PM
Entry #: 3674479
| So Heine Meine folded? We need more competition.
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| Captain Morgan
July 26, 2011
10:36:45 AM
Entry #: 3770266
| How many games on the schedule? I want to come and see the field and the improvements made since i was last there 4 years ago. Any lights improvement? Time limit? Exploring options for my team. Age not a factor at 27. Cost?
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| The commish
July 26, 2011
9:13:56 PM
Entry #: 3770676
| I seem to remember you not having any complementary words for the league on your way out the door four years ago. It still has the same dictator, prick running the league. So why would you want to come back? I'd keep shopping
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| Linck
July 27, 2011
2:51:42 PM
Entry #: 3771154
| Don't let the head man get you down Morgan. This shit is as fun as it has ever been. No, the lights aren't fixed, but the infield is FOR SURE nicer and is well keep through the season.
If you like American baseball w/o the commy reentry rules, this is the spot.
Also, BYOB makes for good times at the diamond in the rough.
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| WildBilly
July 28, 2011
11:37:37 AM
Entry #: 3771762
| Who's Captain Morgan? Just curious.
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| Captain Morgan
July 28, 2011
10:47:29 PM
Entry #: 3772186
| Hahaha I dont remember saying shit about you Archie, I never ran a team in the FOY. My issue was with the guy running the team I was on. Whatever. Youmhave to be thinking of Ben maybe? See ya, way to look out for your league genius.
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| Pirates11
July 29, 2011
7:03:02 AM
Entry #: 3772253
| Archie does a great job running the foy.there wouldn't b an foy league without Archie so if u don't want to bring your team over here to get beat up on than so be it we don't care.just stay on the outside looking in, at my personal " field of dreams"
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| Linck
July 29, 2011
12:17:41 PM
Entry #: 3772448
| 2012 would be a fun with The Tribe in FOY. They are good dudes and a pretty good ball club.
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| Bulls #23
July 29, 2011
12:49:43 PM
Entry #: 3772482
| Really? We got a good team interested in joining the league and the welcome wagon tells them to go to hell... Really?
And Danny, if you really love this league, you should want to see it grow. I'm not sure about Archie, but it's obvious that you don't know Morgan or his team. They are good guys and good ballplayers, not a team that would "get beat up on" in the FOY. Set up an indy game with them and see for yourself. They're good guys and it's a shame to see them treated this way by people who should be interested in adding teams to the league.
Morgan, if it's any consolation the Raging Bulls would love to have you in the league... Don't rule anything out yet, Archie can be a little gruff, but he's a good guy when it comes down to it. Hit me or Linck up and we can answer all your questions.
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| Captain Morgan
August 1, 2011
12:39:07 AM
Entry #: 3773446
| I will chalk that up to mistaken identity, unless Archie has a random hair in his ass for me and then see ya. I am sure the Pirates guy is kidding too, as he cant have seen our team play. Jeremy I will get a hold of you or Linck.
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| Pirates11
August 1, 2011
6:18:38 PM
Entry #: 3774009
| I welcome all new teams in the league especially established teams that would only make it even more competitive.we are still trying to figure out how to beat the teams that are in foy now
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| Longhorns55
August 4, 2011
4:11:14 PM
Entry #: 3775817
| Prediction Tribe gets beat up in the FOY and goes winless.
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| New Guy
August 12, 2011
5:33:45 PM
Entry #: 3780521
| I have a team that wants to play next year, can someone point me in the right direction, for some information. Thanks
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| Linck
August 12, 2011
10:32:55 PM
Entry #: 3780610
| @ Longhorn55: Yeah that's what would happen to the Longhorns in the FOY, pendejo! I heard they tie teams names Abe Lincoln's Time Machine. They are good right?
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| Longhorns55
August 17, 2011
8:04:16 PM
Entry #: 3783714
| Lol @ Linck. Yeah, we don't really get the regulars out to CYC to often. Any time you wanna go buddy...
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| Linck
August 18, 2011
2:34:52 PM
Entry #: 3784237
| Sweet! I expect we'll see you guys in the league next season.
We got you guys sometime in cyc this year, though! Make sure you gett'em out for that one!
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