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TOPIC: West Final Standings |
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| CClan28
October 29, 2012
9:53:41 AM
Entry #: 4002170
| As discussed within our Playoff Guidelines:
1st - Cougars (7-1)
2nd - Black Mambas (5-3) defeated Playmakers Head to Head
3rd - Lady Playmakers (5-3)
4th - Lady Falcons (4-4)
5th - Lady Clan (4-4)
6th - ProStyle (4-4)
The last 3 spots (4th, 5th, and 6th) were decided by point differential because the 3 teams in those spots all had the same record and all beat one another - (Clan beat Prostyle, Prostyle beat Falcons, Falcons beat Clan). By way of point differential - Falcons +28, Clan +14, ProStyle +11.......the teams finished 4, 5, and 6.
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| According to the rules
October 29, 2012
5:44:55 PM
Entry #: 4002493
| The only reason why I can see you not using head to head would be becuz it would put Lc in 6th place!! This is not the 1st time that teams have or will have the same record!!! Clearly that's why the breakdown of the 3 options were put into place!! Therefore becuz the records are the same we would then toto head to head!!! Which in this case George becuz each one cancelled out one another there is NO NEED TO GO TO points. Which would place Prostyle 4th lady falcons 5th & lady clan 6th! So other than your the league commissioner can u explain to me how this is accurate or fair????
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| Correct me if I'm wrong
October 29, 2012
6:20:56 PM
Entry #: 4002526
| I am completely confussesd as to how you came to the placement of WEST 4th 5th & 6th place teams.. Now if it's record, then head to head, then pts. & then a coin toss (per the league standing) passed out in the meeting...Even though the 3 teams in question all have the same record if you go to pts Prostyle has the least amount of PA & even though we lost to LC who in turn lost to FALCONS which PROSTYLE beat wouldn't that put us in 4th place?? Clan in 5th & Falcons in 6th? Especially if u do it just like u did the BLACK MAMBAS & PLAYMAKERS. THEIR RECORDS are the same & eventhough PM has less PA BM beat them which makes them 2nd.... So if we PROSTYLE HAVE THE LEAST POINTS OF THE THREE & beat the falcons who beat the LC how are we now in 6th place?? PS#55
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| Coach Tim-Most Wanted
October 29, 2012
6:48:29 PM
Entry #: 4002539
| I don't understand why you guys are confused and acting as if there is some type of conspiracy theory going on here. All 3 teams cancelled each other out as explained in George's explanation. Therefor the next factor is points (point DIFFERENTIAL). Falcons have a point differential of +28, Clan +14 and Prostyles +11 thus the 4th, 5th and 6th place seedings. If one of the teams beat BOTH of the other teams (ex: Prostyles beating Lady Clan and Lady Falcons) then it would've been head to head. At any rate I pray everyone survives Sandy and that we are able to play this weekend. Good luck to all teams in the playoffs and be blessed!!
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| CClan28
October 29, 2012
6:55:52 PM
Entry #: 4002551
| The point differential rule came into effect because the three teams all beat each other accordingly as was outlined above. "Point differential" is the amount of points you scored minus the amount of points scored upon you. Thus the Lady Falcons (+28) came in forth, Lady Clan (+14) came in 5th, and ProStyle (+11) came in 6th place. This was discussed in the meeting and nothing has been changed to benefit "NONE" of the teams listed. I hope this clears things up.
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October 29, 2012
9:23:10 PM
Entry #: 4002646
| Well tim is said correct me if I'm wrong... But instead of jumping the gun i tried to call george and ask him & then sent a text both went unanswered so still CONFUSSED I came to the message board for clearification....I can't speak for everyone lessor how they feel....but I didn't understand the process so I asked! But it's apparent that I wasn't the only one that had questions... It really don't matter to me who we play. I just wanted to be clear when I relayed the standings to my team & sound intelligent when doing so! Thanks for the clearification. I personally thought that the Points part was based solely on PA. Now I know.... Thanks. PS#55
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| fan
October 30, 2012
1:16:39 AM
Entry #: 4002771
| I'd like to see who may be facing who, if my predictions are correct. Is it just me or is the breakdown/bracket for week of 11-11-12 missing?
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| Mel from HD
October 30, 2012
10:22:51 AM
Entry #: 4002854
| Hey Everyone. I believe the confusion is because of this, AND it makes sense. Previously this was stated on the message board.
1. Playmakers have less points scored against them than Black Mambas 2. Points scored -Scored against has BM w/ 31 and PM 32 so BM is technically #2. 3. head to head is first tie breaker. Points don't matter if these two teams played one another. Higher seed would be the team that won head to head if record is the same.
4. It's determined by points allowed. Playmakers allowed less points to be scored on them. The same thing can be said for Clan and Prostyle. If I'm correct Clan beat Prostyle, but Prostyle is ahead because they have less points allowed. 5. the west standings need to be updated bc the clan should be in 5th place...so hopefully it will be updated before playoffs! but it is done by head to head and ppoints if the teams never faced one another! 6. west side is all screwed outside of first place. bc if falcons win this weekend they go above clan bc they beat them, but lost to prostyle and thats when points play apart bc they will have the same record! good luck with that ely board! 7. The system has a slight flaw in it where it lists teams with the same record in alphabit order. Sorry about the confusion but the playoff bracket will be listed correctly. Teams with the same record will be ranked by Head-to-Head, then point differential. Black Mambas is the second seed tho.
Ok so the way I look at it is this. Head to head PS lost to the clan. LC lost to the falcons but PS beat the falcons. AND Ps had least amount of amounts scored against them. so it should be either be LC, PS, then the falcons OR PS, LC, then the falcons. Based on these previous messages.
Coach Tim, chill dude. People have the right to be confused and ask questions if they don't understand ecspeacially when previous messages state different. She never even said trickery was an issue. you did. makes me wonder. she also said she tried to call george with no response so unfortunatley she had to result to the message board. Wassup TK!
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| CoachTim
October 30, 2012
3:56:33 PM
Entry #: 4003081
| Mel....quite chilled over here. It is point DIFFERENTIAL and NOT points allowed that factor in with the points. You are still talking about points allowed which has NOTHING to do with the point DIFFERENTIAL. Not sure what is making you wonder but at any rate hopefully everyone understands the seedings now. Peace and blessings
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| fan
October 31, 2012
2:01:22 AM
Entry #: 4003476
| So what about the following week, 11-11-12? What is the schedule? Anyone? *birds chirpin*
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| CClan28
October 31, 2012
7:58:16 AM
Entry #: 4003523
| No birds chirpin......it's posted!
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November 1, 2012
8:04:30 AM
Entry #: 4004213
| Dis Joker!!!
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| fan
November 1, 2012
8:17:56 AM
Entry #: 4004220
| oh really? i see nothing posted at all about 11-11-12. Thanks for responding, however no facts to back it up. Please clarify! Thanks
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| Rhonda (Lady Elite #84)
November 1, 2012
11:23:26 AM
Entry #: 4004332
| If you go to Ely Fall 2012 - Ladies East Division, its under that tab.
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November 1, 2012
2:00:56 PM
Entry #: 4004471
| The outcome of this weekend determines the schedule for 11-11-12. The schedule for 11-4-12 is posted
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| fan
November 1, 2012
4:32:02 PM
Entry #: 4004603
| Does it really determine the schedule, really? Or would it determine who plays who? I want to know the schedule ie., times games will be played, so I can plan accordingly. Thanks for sharing your insight.
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November 2, 2012
7:29:57 AM
Entry #: 4004928
| "Fan" - are you stupid or just dumb as hell, it gives you the times of the games...it just doesn't tell you specific teams. Or do you just want to be an idiot about the situation. "Reading" is fundamental!!!!!
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November 2, 2012
7:40:31 PM
Entry #: 4005383
| To the btch-type a*! mthrfckr who dsnt even hve since enuf to indicate where I would find such info... Eat my a*! & my anus till u spit up...diarrhea!o) U btch U!
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November 4, 2012
11:08:48 PM
Entry #: 4006388
| Is this really what our message board has come to
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November 5, 2012
5:50:52 AM
Entry #: 4006455
| Get rid of the message board! This kind of language and these message don't refle well on the majority of the teams or the women on these teams. Either get rid of the board or censor it! You don't hear this kind of conversations or messages from the men's league. All the complaining and bitching seems to be coming from the women only and perhaps the players instead of the coaches. Take away the message board! Please!!!
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| An Adult
November 5, 2012
7:49:36 AM
Entry #: 4006477
| The message board is valuable and serves good purpose. I've seen it in the past when messages are left in bad taste, they are taken down. Not sure why these haven't. When we start personal attacks and using of vulgarity, message should be taken down. Simple and would allow for continued use.
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