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| RoyalPalmrace
July 6, 2005
3:27:16 PM
Entry #: 931615
| Royal Palm Raceway's facilities are closed for relocation.
Gentlemen for 2 years there was no track in Miami. I tried to
establish a track with all the conveniences that we never had and with
room for growth. I stepped forward to do what no one else wanted or
was willing to do. I did this for the love of this sport and for the
people who wanted a place to run. I was able to create what I thought
was the beginning of a very nice place to run. With a lot of work,
effort, and money I was able to piece together a track with facilities
we never had before.
Unfortunately I had not the first, but definitely the last fallout
with management at the track this past weekend. There have been many
instances that management's activities have disrupted our peaceful use
of the facility I lease. I have always been professionally courteous
discussing issues caused by management with their events held at the
facility. These issues included; extremely LOUD Music at the track,
broken glass and rocks on the track, vandalism caused by their patrons
use of area. There has even been cases when I have found vomit on the
track the following day from one of their events. I have always been
able to deal with these never-ending issues with management in a
peaceful manner. Keep in mind that all these problems were caused by
the same people I pay a lease to and not by us. I however refuse to
deal with attitudes and threats. I consider myself a patient person
but I have to draw the line. This 4th of July once again they held yet
another giant party at the facility. They completely vandalized our
track with broken bottles, rocks, broken berms, fireworks, you name
it. It also seemed that they used our drivers stand as some sort of
launching area for the fireworks as well. As you all may know it takes
a lot of work to maintain a track in good shape. I also keep valuable
equipment there as well, which I removed for security reasons. No one is supposed
to be on the track while we are not there for any reason. I
cannot continue to deal with people (the landlord) who don't protect
the track area I lease, and don't even use common sense when it comes
to protecting what others are paying for. Not to mention holding
events that completely interrupts our use of the facilities. This was
the last straw!
What's the Solution?
We are over 400 members strong and I'm working with others to resolve
this as quickly as possible. I am trying to locate a temporary or
permanent alternative as fast as possible so we can still run. We will
not however meet at our previous location any more. I have several
locations already in mind and am gathering the details to see if these
locations are feasible. I will post the possible new location
information as soon as I can.
I am interested in forming a track committee of those members who are
interested to participate and carry some responsibilities along with
myself. Some members want more participation and others don't want any
responsibilities at all. The track however will run as normal in any
case.
None of this affects www.shopserpent.com or our intentions of running
1/18 scale cars which we will begin in the next coming weeks.
I know this is sudden news, but the club could not continue under
these circumstances. Please have confidence that I am trying hard to
find a solution that will be best for everyone.
Thanks,
Andy Martinez
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| jhigga15
July 6, 2005
3:36:01 PM
Entry #: 931634
| WOW...
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| joe
July 6, 2005
3:57:11 PM
Entry #: 931697
| why WOW, half the people who write on this board never showed up anyway. maybe a new location will draw better attendance.
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| jhigga15
July 6, 2005
4:11:39 PM
Entry #: 931727
| why WOW...B/c I just got that nice new Huddy($289)...got my car to drive straight for the first time in my life, got a tronsponder($90), spent like an extrs $200 on stuff to start the summer series...Thats Why WOW...
Personally I would rather the track at a closer location to my house...like tropical...They have room all over the place to put a permanent RC track...I still go run my car where the old track was
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| Eric G
July 6, 2005
4:19:11 PM
Entry #: 931741
| I think something is going to be done, but it's going to take some time and patience. I was pissed when I heard about it on Sunday, but I'm feeling more optimistic now. There are many locations being talked about already. So we'll see what happens. Cross your fingers everyone.
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| joe
July 6, 2005
4:45:42 PM
Entry #: 931806
| i know andy wants to have another track, and it will be just a matter of time before we get going again. so do not sell your stuff!!! plus, like you said, a better location would be preferable. when they were running at tropical park they had a ton of drivers. hopefully we can get this as well.
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| gordie
July 6, 2005
4:54:00 PM
Entry #: 931821
| hey everyone im really new, i dont live in florida but im there twice a year and i got my NTC3 plus from atomic last summer and i always bring my car to florida and i am looking forward to coming to your track i have heard great things from this fourm i am sorry about what happened to the track and i want to know if you know where or if you will b moving and when thanks
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| joe
July 6, 2005
4:56:59 PM
Entry #: 931825
| andy is researching as we speak. i am sure he will let us all know as soon as he does.
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| CJ
July 6, 2005
4:58:29 PM
Entry #: 931826
| I agree with Jhgga. If it was cool with everyone else i would like it to be somewhere near Tropical, but then agian i am only one person and if 25 people wouldnt be able to make it if it was at tropical then dont put it there
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| jhigga15
July 6, 2005
5:40:04 PM
Entry #: 931925
| I work in a soccer office, and we do a lot of stuff with the parks department in miami...maybe I canb find the right person to make something happen...
Also another good place would be Ameliah Earhart Park in Hialeah...it has a crazy amount of space...
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| RoyalPalmrace
July 6, 2005
8:04:31 PM
Entry #: 932099
| jhigga15
interesting.. please contact me directly
my email is nextedge@bellsouth.net
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| CJ
July 6, 2005
8:14:59 PM
Entry #: 932117
| that would be cool having it atr amelia earnheart park. For me it is much closer.
Andy maybe once you get your top 5 places avaliable you should have a vote to see which one is the most accesible to RPR members
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| Eric G
July 6, 2005
8:38:43 PM
Entry #: 932146
| LOL...wishful thinking CJ. We'll be lucky if he can find 2 places that work for us. Although I heard some bad things about Amelia Park when I was mountain biking out there. Car vandalism used to be an issue. Don't know how it is now.
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| Alex S
July 6, 2005
8:59:30 PM
Entry #: 932168
| Amelia has the R/C boats already so maybe it's not a bad idea. Vandalism won't be a problem, once they see how fast our toys are they'll respect us and want to join us, not fight us. (R/C = Peace on earth) At Amelia we will aslo have a large selection of music playing for free...cumbia, salsa, merengue...
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| CJ
July 6, 2005
10:25:53 PM
Entry #: 932293
| I know that there is no way to tell exactly how long this will take.
But when do you think we could be back and running again???
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| CJ
July 6, 2005
10:26:55 PM
Entry #: 932294
| I was also thinking. Would you have to re-pave the area wehich you would be racing to make it sutible for RC racing???
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| alucard
July 6, 2005
10:58:14 PM
Entry #: 932341
| Its a shame. This is one reason why its so hard to make R/C a good hobby. You find a good place and something happens. I feel for you Andy. I left you an email earlier this evening. Let me know if i can help in any way.
In the meantime, are the races off for this sunday? If they are where do we plan on racing the 1/18?
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| RoyalPalmrace
July 7, 2005
1:10:04 AM
Entry #: 932487
| 1st thing is the 1/18th scale . I have 2 really nice places waiting for return calls and confirmations..
I will post as soon as possible.
looks like the 1/18 group is getting larger as well.
racing should be very fun.
stay tuned..
Andy
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| dj
July 7, 2005
10:29:37 AM
Entry #: 932885
| In the mean time guys, there is a track in broward. It will allow you to still run, maybe not as much, but it is good enough for passing the time. It is fun.
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| jhigga15
July 7, 2005
10:31:21 AM
Entry #: 932890
| Damn, like 2 years ago I had a HPI micro and I gave it to my friends son who lives in argentina b/c no one raced them here...I guess I will have to get back into that game also...lol
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| RoyalPalmrace
July 7, 2005
3:20:05 PM
Entry #: 933417
| Gentalmen... looks like Dave and Busters is a GREEN light for 1/18 scale racing! This is a fantastic facility where you could bring your whole family. price is 15.00/ racer on wed nights. Dolphin mall location.. There is more to come since i'm working out the details for food and so forth.
racing should be from 8pm - 12midnight with racing starting at 9pm.
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| RoyalPalmrace
July 7, 2005
3:35:11 PM
Entry #: 933447
| oops forgot to mention . i will let you know what week we will start.
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| dakpak
July 7, 2005
5:36:28 PM
Entry #: 933699
| Thats a shame. I really enjoyed the track and facilities, was looking forward to racing again after a 5+ year hiatus. But lets find another home for RPR, and together we can make it even better with a group effort. I am willing to help any way I can, just let me know what I can do. Hopefully we can resolve the racetrack issue in a short time. Peace Guys!
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| Nadim
July 7, 2005
7:39:51 PM
Entry #: 933873
| Guys,
I am willing to help get a new track going. Just let me know what I can do to help also.
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| gordie
July 7, 2005
11:17:05 PM
Entry #: 934103
| hey guys ummm when do you guys think you will have a temp track open and where, im coming down there in late july, early august and i want to know whats going on because i would like to try racing and driving at tracks, the one near i live just closed down before i got to race there
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| RacerX
July 8, 2005
10:41:27 AM
Entry #: 934525
| In response to Joe's comment, from what I understand, it wasn't the lack of participation, but the after hours activities that was happening at the track. Andy, as the owner if the track, voiced his concerns and what could be done about it, but nothing was resolved so, the track is moving to a different location.
I personally loved the track. The location was great, the new friends I've made are great and I'm sure that we'll be up and racing in no time.
The Dolphin Mall micro racing activities in the mean time will be a lot of fun, whether your racing or just coming out to support the hobby and will be GREAT exposure for Royal Palm Raceway.
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| RoyalPalmrace
July 8, 2005
2:37:11 PM
Entry #: 934957
| Racer X Are you comming out to Dave and Busters?
These M-18s are a -lot of fun in the meantime and a-lot less expensive.
Joe please dont extend participation issue...
Thanks
Andy
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| joe
July 8, 2005
2:49:38 PM
Entry #: 934990
| i was not saying that was the reason that you left. what i was trying to say is that maybe we could get more participation at another location. i never mentioned it had anything to do with you leaving. go back and re-read the comment i wrote. sorry for the confusion.
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| yukiyu
July 8, 2005
4:16:25 PM
Entry #: 935154
| so i guess , there's no r/c racing in miami on the 23 ,or 24 th of july..??oh well , i guess i'll drink beer!!
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| dynamic
July 9, 2005
12:22:19 AM
Entry #: 935718
| Please let me know more about the 1/18 races. stock cars???, modified cars???, or just for fun.
Its oging to be inside de Dave and busters or outside, plese give more info, i would be more that happy to join for race!!!
A good idea for a permanent track could be the hialeah racetrack (the one on palm ave and 26 st on the east), it has a huge parking lot and nobody use that space, also you colud try on the jaialai, i've heard that years ago the people of orange blossom made races in there.
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| Eric G
July 9, 2005
11:19:28 AM
Entry #: 935895
| It will be inside Dave & Busters inside one of the private rooms. Since we've never run this before it's pretty much open class. bring what you want. The only thing we'd like to keep similar is batteries. Either 6-cell Nimh or 2 cell Lipo. The thinking is so we can at least keep the voltage the same. (7.2 nimh vs 7.4 lipo) it looks like Foam tires are the way to go. This is going to be for fun anyways. But we will have the transponder system set up, so bring your personal transponder. Other than that, we're kinda winging it so we'll see what happens. We figure we'll start setting up the track like at 8 and stay until 12ish. Andy will post more details when it's settled.
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| CJ
July 9, 2005
4:28:24 PM
Entry #: 936068
| Just wondering: When you move RPR to a new location will you move the 1/18th scale racing there too???
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| Shawn_C
July 10, 2005
5:20:28 PM
Entry #: 936904
| This is definately the worse news I have heard this weekend. I just bought a new 710 kit and I was planning on tuning the chassis and engine next weekend. Those plans are obviously out the window. Is there a nitro track that runs during summer anywhere within two-three hours drive from Miami?
I trust Andy did the right thing. I can attest to how frustrating it is for the drivers when a track can't be managed properly. I never heard anything like this though...
Keep us up to date Andy.
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| dj
July 10, 2005
5:33:41 PM
Entry #: 936913
| you can race at go racing in ft lauderdale. It is off of 441 and oakland park blvd., not that far at all.
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| CJ
July 10, 2005
6:20:06 PM
Entry #: 936955
| How long you think its gonna take Andy to find a new facility aqnd get it up and running????
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| Shawn_C
July 10, 2005
9:29:24 PM
Entry #: 937164
| I was able to find oakland park blvd on the map but what is Rt. 441 known as? Also, do you know there schedule or web address?
Thanks in advance...
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| Shawn_C
July 10, 2005
9:34:03 PM
Entry #: 937174
| nevermind DJ, I was able to tap into the power of Google and found it. I think you were pointing me here: http://www.southflorida.com/visitor/sfe-toptenspecialty,0,4096825.story?coll=sfe-visitor-headlines
Thanks bud....
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| Juancho
July 10, 2005
9:37:58 PM
Entry #: 937179
| Be Patient Guys, please have in mind that is kind of hard to find a place where the conditions to set up a track are just right, we have to look for a place that will make everyone happy (Location wise), and it needs to have apropriate surface (So then people wont start complaining about the bumps and the grip etc etc).
Kind of ironic the sudden rush to have a place to race when we had to go the extra mile to get a few people to go there on race days...
I think is a good time to bring up the old quote: "You Dont Know What You Have Until You Dont Have It Any More".
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| CJ
July 10, 2005
10:14:21 PM
Entry #: 937221
| Hey Shawn_C thats a RC airplane club
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| Eric G
July 10, 2005
10:45:00 PM
Entry #: 937271
| yeah it's going to take time. He's got many options. find a location that will allow a temporary track to be setup and torn down on race weekends like Tropical park, or preferably find a private owned land that has the concrete already down and would allow a permanent track to be setup. Then there's the rent costs, the track layout costs are pretty much fixed wherever it's set up, but the other stuff like rent, driver's stand etc also need to be considered. So it's going to take some time. Fast & Furious RC is the only option at the moment. here's the site http://www.fastnfuriousrc.com/
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| alucard
July 11, 2005
3:26:18 PM
Entry #: 938438
| Shawn c. 441 is also knows at State Road 7
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| RoyalPalmrace
July 11, 2005
4:47:02 PM
Entry #: 938621
| Gentalmen.. Sorry I havent posted I was out of power for 2 days.. NO COMPUTER! In any case just wrapping up the details for the 1/18thscale for wed nights and gathering the list of racers who want to attend.
Guys if your interested in the M18 for Wed nights please let me know.. Looks like we may start next wed night July 20th. I am making the list of racers now. you can send me an e-mail to nextedge@bellsouth.net
Next on the agenda is to focus a-lot more on the future nitro track of which there are several locations to consider. I will post more info as soon as a square the 1/18 races. more info later this week as I will post more info.
Andy
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| RoyalPalmrace
July 11, 2005
4:59:13 PM
Entry #: 938647
| Info new track goal
Criteria for new track....
here are a few things we mst have at any new track location.
1. Must be BETTER than before.
The track surface is #1 priority.
we need an asphault as smooth as possible and a long straight for 1/8th scale.
We need to improve on what we had and make this one even better.
2. Location,Location,Location
High exposure areas are a hugh benfit since it brings in more racers and spectators.
3. lets shoot for a permanent track this would be ideal. I have ideas on this even if track has black out dates.
The idea is to drastically improve surface and layout.
I already have a scale layout designed by (the master) Art Carbonel we can use.
We can get this done fairly quickly once a location is decided on.
I also need help guys.. this is not a one man show.
I will post more later but at least you get an idea as to what i'm trying to get us within a reasonable expense budget.
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| RacerX
July 11, 2005
6:26:00 PM
Entry #: 938802
| Andy,
I would love to come out and race with you all, but I don't have a car to run. I will try to make it out there for moral support. That is all...
RacerX
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| alucard
July 11, 2005
6:50:01 PM
Entry #: 938847
| Again, like i mentioned before i will try to help out as much as i can. When you get dates when you need help please let me know and i will try to make it out.
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| CJ
July 15, 2005
6:44:41 PM
Entry #: 946384
| Just wanted to know
Wouldnt it be easier and money svaing to just put it at someplace that has already been used for RC racing because dont the cars need a smoother surface then your typical parking lot
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| Eric G
July 15, 2005
7:38:49 PM
Entry #: 946435
| Trust me, all that has been considered. but there's NEVER been a permanent track in Miami other than RPR. All the other parking lots where there were races that I know of have been filled with buildings. The only spot left is Tropical Park, and it would require some serious money to get in there to put a permanent track IF they were to allow it. I know Andy's looking for the best location possible. He's got some discussions going that hopefully will lead to something soon.
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| RoyalPalmrace
July 17, 2005
3:21:05 PM
Entry #: 947685
| Guys remember that this week wednesday the 20th racing begins at Dave & Busters.. 8pm till midnight..
bring you 1/18th scale clean and ready..
Andy
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| Alex
July 28, 2005
8:41:54 AM
Entry #: 965359
| ***Your Top News***
I saw a few possible Track locations with Andy this past weekend. It looks very Promising.
More to come...
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| Juancho
July 29, 2005
12:48:40 AM
Entry #: 967005
| I got to see a few photos from one the possibilities... I hope we can get in there.
IT WOULD BE AWESOME.
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| Newguy
August 5, 2005
4:48:25 PM
Entry #: 979737
| I was planning on going to the track but i learned it was closed. How far along are you on getting a new location.
Is there a chance that you wont get a new track??
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| dj
August 5, 2005
5:35:27 PM
Entry #: 979806
| Hey, how is the new location coming, have you found anything Andy?
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| Eric G
August 5, 2005
6:29:06 PM
Entry #: 979880
| Yes, a proposal has been given to the parks department and we will need to wait for an answer. In a few weeks we should have more info.
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| alucard
August 6, 2005
4:46:34 PM
Entry #: 980697
| which park?
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| RoyalPalmrace
August 6, 2005
11:05:05 PM
Entry #: 980941
| i wish i can provide more info.. but i cant just yet. hopefully soon though.
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| alucard
August 7, 2005
10:56:32 PM
Entry #: 981833
| Andy, Whenever the time is right we know you'll let us know :) Just do what you gotta do. We know you are working your a$$ off trying to get us another place to run.
In the meantime, bring on the M18's :)
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| CJ
August 16, 2005
8:45:53 PM
Entry #: 997412
| Any info on the new track??
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| RoyalPalmrace
August 17, 2005
4:07:26 PM
Entry #: 998790
| trying to get info this week..
hopefully i can report something soon.
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| RoyalPalmrace
August 19, 2005
2:12:41 AM
Entry #: 1001695
| Guys all the information is in the hands of the right people.. hopefully we will hear something soon.
Andy
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