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It was the second-to-last weekend of the regular season, a pivotal moment for baseball’s pennant races. Pitching was scrutinized. Analysis was deep.
“His stuff was really good,” Cubs Manager Joe Maddon said of one pitcher, adding of another, “I’ve never seen anything like this — a combination of pure stuff and results.”
In Washington, pitcher Max Scherzer discussed his season.
“I feel like all my stuff’s there,” said Scherzer, who went on to throw his second no-hitter of the year, a 17-strikeout gem against the Mets on Saturday night.
In Chicago, Cubs outfielder Chris Coghlan was asked about Pittsburgh pitcher Gerrit Cole.
“He’s got plus stuff,” Coghlan said. “Anytime you face an ace with that kind of stuff, it’s going to be a grind.”
Cincinnati third baseman Todd Frazier spoke of Mets pitcher Matt Harvey.
“His mediocre stuff will get most people out any day of the week,” he said, adding that the Mets’ rotation featured lots of “nasty off-speed stuff.”
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Mets Manager Terry Collins talked about one of his pitchers, Noah Syndergaard.
“His stuff, we all know he’s got great stuff,” Collins said.
And that was just the National League. There was plenty more stuff in the American League.
Baseball considers itself the most thoughtful of games, a pastime more than a sport, written about with reverence and lyricism, in which pitching is considered more art than athleticism.
Yet the primary term used to explain the art of pitching, which often determines who wins and who loses, is an inelegant word of ill-defined mush.
Stuff.
“Stuff is a big word in baseball,” said Roger Craig, who pitched for 12 seasons in the major leagues, beginning in 1955, and coached pitchers and managed for nearly 25 more. “It’s probably used more than any word that I can think of, especially in pitching.”
Its use as a descriptor in baseball dates back more than a century. It is a word so ordinary that it avoids consideration as a cliché, hidden behind an ever-creative spectrum of modifiers: pure stuff, ace stuff, nasty stuff, hit-and-miss stuff, electric stuff, primary stuff, secondary stuff, top-rotation stuff.
Stuff can be good, great, tremendous. Some pitchers have plus stuff. Some have more.
“I don’t think his stuff was plus-plus like it normally is,” Collins said in April of Harvey.
The word flows from the lips of the smartest baseball people, unchallenged, as if it made perfect sense. But ask them to define “stuff,” and their stuff goes off-speed.
“That’s a good question,” said Ryan Dempster, an MLB Network analyst who won 132 games in the majors. “Stuff, to me, is the ability to throw a pitch in the strike zone and overpower a hitter, or dominate a hitter.”
John Smoltz, another MLB analyst, had enough stuff to pitch for 21 seasons and reach the Hall of Fame. He recently suggested that this year’s Mets had more stuff than the Atlanta Braves staff of Smoltz, Tom Glavine and Greg Maddux in the 1990s. That stirred an unwinnable debate fueled mostly by the word at its center.
Smoltz himself took several attempts before settling on a definition.
“Stuff is something that will make a hitter very uncomfortable,” he said. Then he amended it with less-succinct explanations.
The word is both meaningful and meaningless. There are no synonyms. Like pornography, stuff is defined mostly by example. And only pitchers have stuff. Hitters do not have stuff.
“Hitters got tools,” Dempster said. “We never say the pitchers got tools. We say the pitchers got stuff.”
Merriam-Webster has many definitions of stuff, from tangible materials (move your stuff) to ethereal knowledge (know your stuff). Its eighth definition — “spin imparted to a thrown or hit ball” — mentions baseball.
“The movement of a baseball pitch out of its apparent line of flight; the liveliness of a pitch,” the definition reads.
But that is too precise for baseball’s cloudy vernacular. Stuff can describe a collection of pitches, how well those pitches are thrown on a particular day, and how well they fool hitters.
“It can mean a lot of things,” Craig said. “If you’ve got a guy like Tom Seaver, you say he’s got good stuff. But if you’ve got a guy with average stuff, you might say that he has good stuff today. It depends on the pitcher and what he usually does.”
The conversation went in circles. Craig took a breath.
“It’s confusing,” he said. “The average person wouldn’t understand.”
It is not for having never heard it. Stuff has been part of baseball terminology since sometime shortly after the game’s origin. In 1896, The New York Times wrote about the bleak prospects of Yale’s team, writing of one infielder, “It is thought that he has some genuine baseball stuff in him, though it is in an immature state, and will require a great deal of coaching to develop.”
By the turn of the century, the word started applying specifically to pitchers. One creative Times reporter in 1908 gave voice to Giants Manager John McGraw in an imaginary conversation with pitcher Doc Crandall.
“They’ll never get to that stuff of yours, and even if they did, we can hit anything they can bring out,” McGraw probably did not say.
In early 1911, in an article written for The Times about the best pitchers of the era, Boston Manager Fred Tenney provided a rare definition when describing Christy Mathewson. “I consider him the greatest pitcher that ever was in the game,” Tenney wrote. “He has more ‘stuff’ than any other.”
Everyone from Ted Williams to Bob Feller used the word to explain pitchers. Connotations shifted slightly over the years. In a 1980 New York Times Magazine article about pitching, the writer Tony Scherman said that “stuff” referred to power, not spin.
“The power pitcher relies on velocity, also known as ‘good stuff,’ ” he wrote.
(By then, “stuff” was in its heyday in popular culture. George Carlin riffed on stuff — “That’s what your house is, a place to keep your stuff while you go out and get more stuff,” he said. Nabisco released the curiously spelled Double Stuf Oreo cookie. And in 1985, the horror-movie spoof “The Stuff” — about a substance that oozes from the ground, is tasty enough to cause a sensation and eats our minds — was released. It only sounds like a baseball movie.)
But the term has settled in, like a pitcher finding his stuff, beyond measures of speed and spin to some intangible quality of command and confidence.
Collins, the Mets’ manager, may use it most, and with admirable range. He has started sentences with the term “stuff-wise.” He has talked about “dead-arm stuff” and “pure stuff,” and everything in between. “I saw outstanding stuff,” Collins said of Harvey in June. “Tonight he commanded his stuff.”
As the playoffs begin, plenty of experts will forecast that the pitching staffs with the best stuff are likeliest to win. That can be hard to predict.
Perhaps that is why, in early September, as the Mets and their strong pitching staff were positioned for a playoff run, General Manager Sandy Alderson warned of overconfidence.
“Stuff happens,” he said. Which is something everyone understands.
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Jeremy Anderson
Woodbury, CT October 5, 2015Oh yes, and there's this:
Stuff is as stuff does.
Steve Fankuchen
Oakland, CA October 5, 2015The author clearly lacks the aesthetic and intellectual stuff necessary to appreciate a pitcher's stuff. STUFF is not only an appropriately elegant term when applied to pitching, but to real fans, it is a many layered, highly nuanced, multi-dimensional description that is more than adequate to the difficult task of describing the pitching variety of Greg Maddux, Tim Hudson, Barry Zito, Joe Nuxhall, and Dennis Eckersley.
The lack of such literate elegance in their own craft and thinking is why authors such as John Branch are simply not described as having stuff, regardless of any preceding adjective.
Jeremy Anderson
Woodbury, CT October 5, 2015Stuff is the ability to consistently deliver pitches that result in outs.
bobg
Norwalk, CT October 5, 2015This thought-provoking article and comments all miss one very important point, namely: good pitching ALWAYS beats good hitting.
And vice-versa.
ed johnson
Cuba, AL October 4, 2015When I think of stuff, I think of Nolan Ryan or Randy Johnson.
dick m.
thunder bay, ontario October 4, 2015"Stuff" clearly (maybe) refers to not just the pitcher's ability to throw a variety of pitches and have them do what he wants, although that's fundamental. "Stuff" is also cerebral, and so fundamental, to the extent of knowing when to throw the pitch the pitcher thinks will be successful. How else explain a batter's uselessly flailing at a ball that's clearly out of the strike zone? He was expecting one kind of pitch, but the pitcher's "stuff" had the pitcher throwing another kind of pitch.
And, as other readers have pointed out, a pitcher can have great "stuff" on one occasion, not so great on others. Back in the day it was a commonplace among the aficionados that if you were going to "get" Koufax or Drysdale or Gibson at all you had to get them early, and so out of the game in favour of a relief pitcher or they would eventually "find" their "stuff" and your team was due for another loss.
Dave DeBenedetto
New York October 4, 2015It's a cumulative term
vladimir shpigel
vladimir@onecando.com October 4, 2015“Stuff this, and stuff that…” This is a perfect indicator of how “cerebral” the professional baseball is. It is filled with “thoughtful” people who communicate their thoughts on a grade school level at best and. I am sure that the depth of their knowledge is not far behind. Tennis and golf are just as pathetic.
Even the game’s fundamentals, how to hit or throw the ball, are taught in the same manner. Since they are unable to explain they employ nothing but obfuscation and mystification. Behind their hoity-toity but meaningless proclamations like: “Baseball is an art and a science” these self-appointed “Einsteins and Picasos” are hiding their ignorance and feeble grasp of the subject.
On some level I can agree that the baseball is very much like art —The Modern Art to be exact. When a rational explanation is in order, the same familiar bag of tricks is used: “the average people just would not understand”. This is exactly what you will hear in some “Art” gallery when they are trying to pass a pile of elephant dung in the middle of the room for a profound philosophical thought.
RJM
Wash DC October 4, 2015There's no mystery. Good stuff is the pitcher's masterful control of the baseball's movement, location, and speed. Every pitcher, catcher, hitter, and coach knows this, and so do all the real fans. If you don't believe me, ask the Japanese.
Eleanor
Augusta, Maine October 4, 2015To me when a pitcher has great stuff it means that all parts of his game are at the top level together and he will pitch as well and effectively as he is able to. Usually makes for a very good game to watch.
John Clark
Windham, VT October 4, 2015A pitcher might have "electric" stuff. Then again, his stuff might be "lights out." Makes sense to me.
scratchbaker
AZ unfortunately October 4, 2015What the Yankees need to get out of their current hole is less staff and more "stuff".
WJG
Canada October 4, 2015I've always interpreted "stuff" to mean the ability to make the pitch do what you want it to do, as opposed to throwing the ball and hoping for the best. It encompasses speed on fastballs, movement from the expected parabolic flight on breaking balls, and flutter on knuckle-balls.
Do we really want commentators reeling off that long explanation every time they say something?
Dave DeBenedetto
New York October 4, 2015I asked my high school physics teacher what protons, neutrons and electrons were made of. He shrugged and said "Stuff!"
zed
berkeley October 4, 2015Stuff. The unique qualities of a pitcher in keeping a hitter off balance, and maintaining dominance in the matchup. It's also more broadly the in the moment ability to cause surprise even in the face of total preparation. Yasiel Puig may be a knucklehead, but no one can deny when he's on, his stuff is off the charts, and a would be base stealer will get thrown out even if he did everything right on the play. Stuff can also make up for a lack of ability to handle said stuff. Luke LaLouche may walk 20 batters and hit 12, but his undeniable stuff allows his strike out 20, as well. Stuff is when you can have an ace up your sleeve when all 5 aces are already on the table.
bob garcia
miami October 4, 2015Branch overlooked one cliche -- to say these pitchers have "the right stuff."
That usage seems to be shorthand for "righteous stuff" and thank goodness that doesn't seem to be part of the baseball patter!
Colorado October 4, 2015
Stuff happens. But only in the Bush leagues.
Peter Lobel
New York, New York October 4, 2015
The use of the term "stuff" gets a little tedious. It would frankly be a relief to hear descriptions of various pitches not as stuff, but every now and then as their array or mixture of pitches mixture of pitches, or simply referring to the particular pitches the pitcher uses that day, whether fastballs, splits, sliders, etc. But whatever it's called, baseball is a great game. It's a pleasure to watch, has a great rhythm, and is a bit depressing to consider that the season is nearly over.
Adirondax
mid-state New York October 4, 2015
As someone who grew up listening to baseball games on the radio, I don't think I had an appreciation for the term "stuff" until later in life. I remember at one time that Baseball Prospectus had a "stuff" rating.
To me "stuff" means pitches with great late breaking movement.
For some reason I think back to a Kevin Brown start in which the batters were just waving at his pitches.
I suppose then what I'm saying is that it's like pornography. You know it when you see it.
Kevin Brown had great stuff on that day. As Jake Arrieta does most days for the Cubs. He's the closest to Brown in terms of "stuff" in MLB in my judgement.
The nation's pastime. You gotta love it.
Jim B
New York October 4, 2015
and let us not forget a GREAT band from back in th '70's: "Stuff"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKjAuX6dKN8
Occupy Government
Oakland October 4, 2015
would it be too damn much for the baseball gods to leave some leftover stuff in Cleveland already. i'm getting old over here.
Hal
Chicago October 4, 2015Count your blessings. My clear-minded great-grandfather can't remember the last time the Cubs won it all.
scratchbaker
AZ unfortunately October 4, 2015The Cubbies have the right stuff; they are just often missing the left stuff. Is that even possible?
Joe
Cambridge MA October 4, 2015
Stuff is a word like "mojo", which because it describes a certain sort of magic, defies definition. I have always interpreted stuff to mean the trickiness of a pitcher's pitches. Pitches that have great or sudden movement. Pitches that deceive and make a batter flail. The best stuff is "nasty stuff" and the penultimate is "filthy". Who needs an explanation?
Jon
NM October 4, 2015
The only "mystery" of pro sports is why anyone cares about them.
It is a sad commentary of our lives, but it does explain why most people, even educated people, have a clue about what is going on in the world and why.
Mike
NYC October 4, 2015
Both Merriam Webster and Dempster are part right: "stuff" has two components (i) putting spin on the ball to make drop, bend, rise, cut, change speeds, etc. (I have never in many years of playing and watching baseball heard anyone call a 98 mph fastball good "stuff"), and (ii) having that spin/movement fool hitters.
So there is both a sheer performance aspect (did the pitch move?) and also a results aspect (was the pitch successful?). This explains why a pitcher can have good "stuff" one game and not another - if either of the above components is missing, so is the "stuff."
David
California October 4, 2015
Stuff is just a general, short hand word. The announcers here in the Bay Area are quite articulate in describing pitchers and pitching in more precise language.
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