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| Snoop
August 17, 2007
9:29:08 AM
Entry #: 2322867
| 4.5" of rain forecasted for Saturday. Schleper Stadium was soaked last night (not sure why). What happens with the schedule should it rain?
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| Snoop
August 18, 2007
9:25:12 AM
Entry #: 2324269
| Today's 12:00 game has been moved to 3:00 due to rain. The field will be re-evaluated in a few hours.
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| Snoop
August 18, 2007
5:56:36 PM
Entry #: 2324665
| Commanding Edge vs Wesley Homes at noon on Sunday.
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| Snoop
August 19, 2007
2:39:44 PM
Entry #: 2325338
| This game has been moved to Monday at 6:15 w/ the winner taking on Stillwater at 8:30.
A decision will be made on field conditions by 2:00 on Monday afternoon.
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| Jim
August 19, 2007
7:46:27 PM
Entry #: 2325666
| Thanks for the update Snoop.
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| Snoop
August 19, 2007
8:24:59 PM
Entry #: 2325747
| Fo schizzle.
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| Conley
August 19, 2007
10:20:33 PM
Entry #: 2325913
| Get this......there is talk of awarding Minnetonka the championship if games cannot be played tomorrow.
I do not know what braintrust would have come up with this particular idea but whoever it is who did and or agreed to it, whether it be teams, managers, tourney directors or whom ever here is all I have to say should that take place.
TRAVESTY......for those who have complained that Class A does not get the recognition we deserve especially come tourney time a decision such as this one will further solidify our meager existence as compared to the B and C state tournaments.
Class A will be the laughing stock of the state!
There are several fields where games could be played this time of year. They may not be pefect venues or the nicest fields but come on!
Cancel the remainder of the tourney and award a team the championship due to rain......
.....joke and shame on those who are considering that decision; worse then that to those who would ever make that decision!!!!!!
Keelan Conley
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| Snoop
August 20, 2007
1:43:45 PM
Entry #: 2326931
| Snoop here. Wesley Homes vs Commanding Edge has been cancelled and rescheduled for Tuesday night, 6:15 @ McGuire Field.
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| Snoop
August 20, 2007
2:05:21 PM
Entry #: 2326983
| Also, apparently the talk of compromising or cancelling the tournament altogether if there are more weather-related delays is very real.
That is chicken shit and should not even be an option. Please voice your concerns in this thread.
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| sides
August 20, 2007
3:02:12 PM
Entry #: 2327115
| Why not play at Hill Murray? Just start the field on fire, that'll dry it out. That's the way Wintz used to do it! Funniest thing I've ever seen!
Otherwise, the Humptydome is probably cheeper than Parade? Twinkies go on the road Thursday, maybe be Mauer could get Pohlad to give the hometown discount?
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| OJS
August 20, 2007
3:05:41 PM
Entry #: 2327123
| Anywhere... Anywhere there is a diamond.
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| millers42
August 20, 2007
3:09:25 PM
Entry #: 2327134
| Under NO circumstances should this even be considered. Whether we need to wait one more day or another week, there is no reason why we can't wait for good weather. I think everyone would feel cheated if those in charge decided to make this ill-advised decision. If Shakopee can't take the rain, then move the game somewhere else.....I hope the right decision is made.
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| hi
August 20, 2007
3:10:24 PM
Entry #: 2327137
| How can it not rain all summer and then state tournament time it decides to never stop? That being said, I have to admit the tournament has lost its luster at this point especially now having to move fields back to McGuire and 3 days in-a-row with no games. Many props to all the commissioners and other volunteers who I know are dedicating their free time to try and finish it out but what a disappointing way to finish out the Class A Baseball Tournament. On a positive note, I’m guessing everyone’s pitching is well rested again.
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| Alfonso Allegre
August 20, 2007
3:27:30 PM
Entry #: 2327163
| I think a large part of the problem is the # of college players on both Commanding Edge and Stillwater who need to go back to school.
The pitching match-ups should be interesting from here on out. We'll be able to see several pitchers who may have been non-factors if games had been played as scheduled.
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| Chris
August 20, 2007
3:48:40 PM
Entry #: 2327200
| Going back to college isn't or at least shouldn't be a factor. The only guys that aren't allowed to play for NCAA reasons are Division I players (only if they are baseball players) once school starts. Most teams have lost several players during the course of their state tournament playing over the years, Hopkins did this year, so that must not be a factor. But that's just my opinion and it may be weighing on the commissioners.
The other issue is NOT field availability, but rather playing at Schleper where the Shakopee staff has purchased concessions, etc. to sell. The first choice is to play the championship games at Schleper on Wednesday after two games tomorrow at McGuire weather permitting. I tend to agree that since Shakopee stepped up to host our tournament they have earned the right to have the championship game. Opinions will most likely vary on this.
There is VERY LITTLE if any discussion on banging the tournament, there are a few less than desireable scenearios floating around, but that's a result of weather not the commissioners.
Nobody wants to see the tourney completed unfairly and the Millers certainly don't want to win a title after going 85-2 becasue the tournament gets called because of rain.
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| SharkBite
August 20, 2007
4:28:11 PM
Entry #: 2327283
| Well, the Millers are what we thought they were from the beginning of the season. If you want to crown them, then crown their ass!
Of course, if you do give them the championship, St. Louis Park gets 2nd. They are the only team that can beat them.
As for Stillwater and Commanding Edge, they get 6th and 8th since they are from the east side.
CONGRATS on Minnetonka's Class A Championship!
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| sides
August 20, 2007
4:37:50 PM
Entry #: 2327299
| What place do the Shark get?
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| Chris
August 20, 2007
4:48:19 PM
Entry #: 2327310
| Not sure how you get your results we've been home for a week and there are four other teams playing.
Maybe your just trying to be funny...I'm not laughing.
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| Sunny
August 20, 2007
6:37:06 PM
Entry #: 2327512
| College guys shouldn't be a big issue unless you're at some major D1 program ... which I don't think many - if any - actually are.
My coaches were good enough to let me leave camp for a night to play in State Tourney games. Maybe some coaches wouldn't be as accomodating, but I have a hunch they would be.
Regardless, it sounds like a joke to me that they'd cancel the games outright. That blows.
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| OJS
August 20, 2007
8:28:16 PM
Entry #: 2327699
| As for the issues with players leaving for school, it DOES effect Stillwater. Eveyone on our team play college ball, and over half the players on our team play out of state and were scheduled to leave Monday, Aug 20th (today). Only 3 players play collegiate ball in the metro, so it has become a huge issue for our team.
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| Conley
August 20, 2007
10:00:47 PM
Entry #: 2327823
| Shark bite your post was obviously sarcastic but not funny by any means, nor should it be taken seriously. All the pre-tourney banter is over and if you asked every single player on our club (Park) where we stand/stood after our dismisal the answer would be universal and probably sound something like this.....
"Do we think we have a better club then Hopkins? More then likely yes but is there any reason for us to dispute the fact that they are and were better then us this year? NO, NO NO!
Hopkins beat us 2/3 so enough said. We were blanked for however many innings in the tourney and we deserve no more then what 7th or 8th place......or whatever the hell it was.
....do we feel we are one of the top three teams in the state for class A? Yes we do and we have proven that over the years both in distant and recent past.
Do we expect props for being the oldest town ball team aside from Hamel in the entire state? No No No!
We deserve no more then we earned based on our performance and that is the bottom line.
No member of the park team would even enter into a debate that we are #2, #3, #4, #5 ect based on our performance in the tourney when all that matters is being and was being played.
Rest assured we will be back next next year and yes we are confident; at the average age of our club if we were not and did not perform we would not be playing.
We are all realistic and the old guys temper down the young guys...we know a good team when we see one and the bottom line is we were not good when it mattered.
Enough said...other then we were/are better then The Sharks.
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| Shark Attack
August 21, 2007
7:39:32 AM
Entry #: 2328170
| I didn't realize the Roosters were in charge of hosting the state tournament. Did anyone climb the fences to see if the field was playable?
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| Horns
August 21, 2007
8:07:51 AM
Entry #: 2328213
| How did we get brought into this? We aren't talking about how you were awarded the league title by default last year because I was on my honeymoon and an unexperienced coach didn't know the steps of talking to everyone in the twin cities before being able to cancel a game. Oh yeah and also since you didn't beat us one time on the actual field. We are talking about the state tourney...the same tourney that neither of us are in. At least now its not just the St. Paul area that sees you are a moron. Now the west side can see what we've been laughing at for years.....ENJOY BOYS!!
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| joe mauer
August 21, 2007
8:11:48 AM
Entry #: 2328223
| YES, we are finally getting back to the old forum.
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| Jordan Roering
August 21, 2007
8:19:58 AM
Entry #: 2328242
| Some one check Shark Attacks URL
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| Snoop
August 21, 2007
9:46:11 AM
Entry #: 2328398
| ^ Capitalized SNOOP is an imposter. Ho.
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| SharkBite
August 21, 2007
11:50:35 AM
Entry #: 2328684
| Sides- We tied for last. With a final record of 20-24, I would question how we made it. You have to give us some props for consistency though.
Glad no one has a sense of humor on this site. Then again, it's hard to get a feel for the delivery of each rant.
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| Chris
August 21, 2007
11:58:03 AM
Entry #: 2328700
| I don't...McDonald's a very very good pitcher, Bornhorst can change a game with one swing, and Hemauer is one of the tougher outs I saw all year. And there is a very good chance he'll be standing on second base if he gets on.
You had a good year and weathered the storm of losing several key players. I'd say now is when you guys will get very good because you've got the guys left that love to play together.
I will expect you guys to be better going forward than you've been in the past.
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| Snoop
August 21, 2007
12:11:04 PM
Entry #: 2328731
| More cancellations:
Everything is cancelled until Saturday. Wesley Homes vs Commanding Edge @ 12:00. Winner plays Stillwater at 3:00.
Sunday is the championship.
All games are at Shakopee. It's gonna be a shootout now.
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| Jordan Roering
August 21, 2007
12:24:27 PM
Entry #: 2328766
| "Snoop" is the fake, how dare he steal my name.
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| millers42
August 21, 2007
12:27:50 PM
Entry #: 2328775
| Loggers are no longer in the tourney....no team left to play. Millers play at 3 against the winner of noon game.
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| sides
August 21, 2007
12:28:06 PM
Entry #: 2328777
| Thanks SharkBite, just thought I'd ask. I think most of us do have a sense of humor, when a comment is funny.
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| Alfonso Allegre
August 21, 2007
12:58:17 PM
Entry #: 2328836
| Really?!? Crazy. That's too bad Stillwater had to drop out. I guess it pays to play with plenty of vets.
So winner of Commanding Edge and Wesley Homes plays Minnetonka? Do they still have to beat Minnetonka twice?
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| King Kong
August 21, 2007
2:08:34 PM
Entry #: 2329024
| It better stillwater is out, they should have lost in the first round of their playoffs against the last place hogs! The only thing stillwater has dumb ass coaches!!! You would think they were on ESPN playing in the little league world series the way their coaches act!
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| Chris
August 21, 2007
2:17:12 PM
Entry #: 2329044
| Yes Minnetonka will still need to be beaten twice.
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| Squanto
August 21, 2007
2:37:12 PM
Entry #: 2329096
| Thats a shame about Stillwater, but I can certainly understand. If those guys go to school out of state then they probably have firm travel plans so they can register for classes and attend the first day.
In fact, I fail to see how you COULDN'T understand this, but here's my response to the two arguments out there--
Point 1) Only D1 guys have to leave for NCAA reason: Assuming the absent Stillwater players aren't D1 (and I think they're not), then baseball is probably not what they're going to be making a living doing, and maybe their priority is attending the first day of class and not playing summer baseball.
Point 2) College coaches should be fine with kids missing fall ball for the tourney: I'm sure most coaches would be ok with it, but the more important thing is how the PROFESSORS are with it. I played DIII baseball and I had a hard enough time smoothing it over with my professors when I missed class for my college baseball games, I don't know any professor that would be ok with a student missing classes for the MN Amateur Baseball State Tournament.
I hate to sound like a parent (which i'm NOT) but the players should be in school instead of playing ball.
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| SharkBite
August 21, 2007
2:48:23 PM
Entry #: 2329131
| Bringing up a point about "going back to school."
If the games are played this weekend, why couldn't the players come back? Unless they are in California and don't want to spend the money to come back, understandable.
Just a thought. Not sure where every player is from.
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| Horns
August 21, 2007
2:54:44 PM
Entry #: 2329148
| Sorry to hear that Loggers.....Great run this year!! Way to represent the Skyline!
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| OJS
August 21, 2007
3:15:57 PM
Entry #: 2329199
| To re-iterate what was said about players leaving, the majority of our team is gone now and we are unable to play. It sucks we cannot field a team, it was a fun tourney. The thing is some of our key players are so far away (Michigan, Nebraska) that it would be unreasonable for them to fly back for a tourney that has been constantly pushed back.
King Kong, hope you enjoyed our run as you sat at home only dreaming of being in the state tourney.
This is baseball, there will be close games here and there. Anyone is capable of beating anyone. You cannot argue how we hae played in the rest of our games since the St. Anthony near slip up.
Good luck to the rest of the teams in state.
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| knuck
August 21, 2007
4:08:23 PM
Entry #: 2329310
| The Loggers were tough. Extremely impressed by them, since I had never heard of anyone on their team.
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| Chris
August 21, 2007
4:46:33 PM
Entry #: 2329396
| Squanto if you are referring to my comment about Division I players (didn't re-read to see what I said) but I was merely stating that only DI players are not allowed to play. Your points are well stated in my opinion, and correct.
It certainly sucks for Stillwater, but no one has control over the weather, this was just a bad year for rain.
Most of you guys don't remember this, but the the Tournament used to start last weekend and finish up what will be next weekend. So we started two weeks before Labor Day Weekend and finished the weekend before. Teams used to lose guys left and right, some could come back some couldn't but never have we lost essentially an entire team like this year. That's really a shame to have it end that way for Stillwater. Nice run guys!!!
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| Sunny
August 21, 2007
5:59:20 PM
Entry #: 2329509
| The response about college guys is valid for some kids. Absolutely.
I certainly don't know the specifics of these kid's situations, so it's impossible to throw a blanket statement over it. I don't know class schedules, game schedules or any of that stuff.
I when I was in college I played for Red Wing. I played football and baseball (if it's the right "Chris", he was actually one of my freshman coaches) at a DIII school. I didn't miss any class (which helped), and my football coaches were good enough to let me miss evening meetings and a regular practice to participate.
So, it can be done. Not in every case, obviously, but it can and has been done. We had a lot of college guys on our squad down there, but not nearly as many as Stillwater, that's for sure. Out-of-state guys obviously have no chance, that goes without saying.
Just a crappy situation all around, I suppose. Too bad for everybody it doesn't appear to have worked out well.
Nobody in this league is making a living playing baseball. Duh. But we DO play because we love it and are willing to sacrifice quite a bit to play. It would only make sense - at least to me it would - that people would make the effort to make it happen any way possible. Sometimes I suppose it just can't happen. And that's fine. I just know that I personally would do what I had to do to get there if at all possible. Maybe I'm wrong, I dunno.
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| Chris
August 21, 2007
10:40:30 PM
Entry #: 2329957
| Sunny, you've got the right guy. I just received you new e-mail address update. Thanks, I'll tell Benny and Reeder hello for you I'm heading into the BWCA with them tomorrow bright and early.
CJ
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| Squanto
August 21, 2007
10:46:17 PM
Entry #: 2329963
| Maybe Stillwater's spot in the tourney should be filled by whoever finished #2 in their league. Who would that be??
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| Sunny
August 21, 2007
10:48:24 PM
Entry #: 2329964
| Ahh, very cool, Chris! Please do tell them hi and pass my contact info along! Haven't seen 'em forever!
Have a blast!
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