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Author TOPIC: To: "The 17"
Old Timer

June 23, 2009
4:11:28 PM

Entry #: 3196292
First of all I may be an idiot that is your opinion perhaps due to my bantering here which is basically just to make the site more fun.

Second of all if I typed that Park has scored ten runs in every game it was a mistake however I doubt I would type that kind of ridiculous mistake.....what I said is or meant to say is they are averaging over ten runs per game.

Third of all Park has been ten runned once this year and check it out if you want but Park has only lost by ten or more runs nine times in the previous nine seasons so they don't get ten runned too often.

Peaaaace


The 17

June 23, 2009
4:30:09 PM

Entry #: 3196320
If they are averaging ten or more runs per game, do you really think that the Riverview league is that much better than everyone else or that their non-league schedule is that much better than others. That seems as if the competition is not good. Yes Park is a good team, but in my opinion that would discount your previous opinion on which league is best. Just bring some educated opinions to this site instead of what you have brought already.

Old Timer

June 23, 2009
5:48:21 PM

Entry #: 3196422
How about this "The 17".....go check out Parks website and see who they play year in and year out...look at the scores. Also you are obviously a very intelligent individual so I am sure you could deduct that nearly every game Park as well as Tonka sees their opponents aces.

Check out who Tonka plays and their scores. Matter of fact rather then my wasting time to educate you why don't you check the scores of every team in the riverview and tell me the league results do not atleast show some indication that the pitching in the Riverview is extremely solid indeed.

As far as Park's batting order and their averaging of ten plus runs per game I think anyone who knows diddly in class A knows that Parks batting order is solid and that was before adding Arlt from the Bull Dogs.

Do your homework if you have not been around long enough to actually know what in the world you are talking about.

Respect and Regards,

Conley...there for those of you who do not know or were not sure of who I am the poop is out of the bag now.

Again all in good fun, just opinions, banter and what not....see you at the state tournament hopefully we make it


The 17

June 24, 2009
10:16:19 AM

Entry #: 3197048
After reviewing the schedules of Park and Tonka, here is my prognosis.

Tonka has played 3 legit teams (according to your current rankings)
1. Cold Springs (L)
2. Cobras Twice (2 wins)
3. Sport and Spine (L)
4. Edina (5-3) W
In the league:
E.P. 20-0 and 12-2 Win
Bloomington 10-0 Win
Bombers 11-0 Win
B.P 4-0 Win
Hopkins 4-0 Win
Non League-
Delano 21-0 Win
Austin 11-1 Win

SLP has played 5 legit teams
Mievilee W
Pub (L)
Forest Lake (W)
Cold Spring (L)
Cobras (W)
League Games-
Bloomington 10-0
E.P. -10 runned them
Richfield (W by 9)
Hopkins (10 runned them)
Non league
Hastings (10 runned)
It sounds like you talk about ESOX quite a bit. They have losses against the Angeles and Lakers of Park National and Bloomington and Victoria.

In conclusion, I am not sure there is any concrete evidence that the league has better pitching. It might show that Park and Tonka can flat out swing the stick but it does not show anything about the caliber of pitching. There is also no prove of a stronger strength of schedule.
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tall & lanky

June 24, 2009
11:03:59 AM

Entry #: 3197130
wow - that must have took 30 minutes - maybe you do deserve a #2 ranking!

Liability

June 24, 2009
12:47:49 PM

Entry #: 3197288
With all due respect to the other teams, I believe the Esox had half their team (Especially Pitching) away at school during the losses to the Angels, Lakers, Bloomington, and Victoria. Since gaining full strength they only have three losses. I believe the riverview has 4 legit contenders in Tonka, SLP, Edina, and Brooklyn Park.

Old Timer

June 24, 2009
1:26:44 PM

Entry #: 3197337
I am seriously going to move you up in the rankings 17 good work.

Being the fast typing geek I am.....Edina's losses to Angles and Lakers were their first two games of the year and half their team was still at college.

Fact: Edina has more pitching depth then any team in the Park National, Skyline or Saint Paul. The pitching depth on Tonka, Park and Edina would probably equate to about 25-30 excellent to no less then pretty decent arms.

As far as Park only playing five legit teams I assume you meant out of league but here is my take on that.

Forest Lake 11-6
Cold Spring 4-5 and Femrite came in to close..do you know who he is?

Smoked by Pub..good day for Pub bad day for Park

Win over the Cobras

I will add win over Shakopee and easily a top five B team.....loss to Green Isle and Zachow. Do you know who he is?

Win over Dundas and last night 18 hits in win over Chaska.

Add those games to the league schedule and like every other year the only team who plays a harder schedule then Park is perhaps Tonka.

As far as the caliber of pitching and league scores I don't care to debate with you any more on that because I doubt you have ever even seen many Riverview games.....

In closing I hope you are atleast as smart as me in knowing that all this talk means sqaut diddly. Seasons don't really get cooking until after July, games in August are the ones that count and only those teams who make it to the tourney are those who have a chance to win it.

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Semi Pro

June 24, 2009
6:19:04 PM

Entry #: 3197646
How can you say that the Riverview league isn't the best league around. Case in point: State Champion Tonka 2001, 2003, 2004, 2006, and 2007. Park 2002 & 2008. Only 2005 wasn't won by a riverview team. In case you didn't know, it takes pitching and a tough schedule to be the best, which Park & Tonka have. Until any other teams from the other three leagues start to win state the discussion of which league is the best is a waste of time. Facts speak for themselves.

Old Timer

June 25, 2009
12:23:50 AM

Entry #: 3197988
Valid point(s) Pete Rose I am more then likely going to have to consider moving you up in the forum rankings.

You are a wise man.....The riverview owns the most titles say the last 10-15 years+ so what is the debate.....outstanding as I see no need to defend my case any more.

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The 17

June 25, 2009
10:55:04 AM

Entry #: 3198313
To quote you Conley-

"Fact: Edina has more pitching depth then any team in the Park National, Skyline or Saint Paul. The pitching depth on Tonka, Park and Edina would probably equate to about 25-30 excellent to no less then pretty decent arms."

So what you are saying is that each team has an average of 8-10 legitimate pitchers? WOW!! How many pitchers/guys do they have on their teams? If that is true, I certainly can not argue to that point, but I think again another uneducated response or no less than an embellishment.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying!

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Old Timer

June 25, 2009
2:04:34 PM

Entry #: 3198553
Park actually does run ten pitchers out there and that does not include Adam Brett every once in a while and Scott Miller (85+). Park could also throw Lindstrom out there and he would do more then fine I am certain of that.

Tonka has about the same and yest Edina has 8-10 arms as well so all of that is fact and I cannot think of one guy on any of those three teams especially Tonka and Park due to their offenses who would not give you a chance to win atleast 6-8 times out of every ten.


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