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| Rats16
July 18, 2011
4:25:19 PM
Entry #: 3765063
| 1. Minnetonka 29-5 10-1. Beat Bloomington and 10 runned Park. Back in there rightful spot at #1
2. Capitals 21-8 14-1. Beat Air Freight and lost first league game to Edge. Still worthy of #2
3. Park 21-6 10-2. Won Jordan/Shakopee Tourney. Lost to Tonka 14-4. Ouch..
4. Bloomington 22-4 9-2. Lost 3 games to Hopkins, Eagan and Tonka. Coming back down to earth.
5. Lyons Pub 21-8 11-3. Lost to Cobras, beat Rocks
6. Stockmens 19-7 14-1. Won 3 but lost first league game 14-4 to Rooster.
7. Sport N Spine 14-8 12-2. Lost to Shamrocks beat 2 bottom teams.
8. Lakers 19-13 8-4. Destroyed Angels
9. Patriots 13-12 8-4. Beat Blue Sox
10. Shamrocks 13-8 9-6. Beat Sport and 2 other league games. Back in the rankings
Dropped from Rankings:
#7 Air Freight 8-5 League. Lost to Saints and Capitals
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| joejack
July 18, 2011
11:54:14 PM
Entry #: 3765333
| Just like to add in that one of your top ten teams lost to a skyline team that is unranked.
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| MNBBALL
July 19, 2011
2:40:10 PM
Entry #: 3765832
| whooopty doo! It is a non-conference game. Doesn't make any difference as half the teams players dont go to those games anyway. Congrats to Saint Anthony Hogs
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| Tiny Arch
July 19, 2011
2:42:43 PM
Entry #: 3765837
| I guess half the St. Anthony Hogs team was gone as well then...
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| MNBBALL
July 19, 2011
3:18:46 PM
Entry #: 3765875
| Im sure Saint Anthony is a good team. The point is that the Skyline has done nothing in previous years to warrant much respect. Maybe this year will change that as I hear they are up and coming and did make state last year. Its something to build on but a lot of the teams in the rankings have done it year in and year out and I think they are pretty well ranked. Also like others have stated is that non conference games are more of an opportunity for teams to get non starters playing time and give 4th pitchers games to keep the rust off. Certain younger teams get geared up for every game and have there whole team show up, while a lof of older veteran teams could care less about these games.
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| Class A-Hole
July 19, 2011
3:43:21 PM
Entry #: 3765896
| I've seen Stockmen's, the Roosters, and the Hogs this year from Skyline. I've also seen Bloomington and the Lakers. Stockmen's is the real deal, no doubt about it. But I wouldn't write off the Roosters or the Hogs and would put them up there with the Lakers (not a shot against the Lakers). But I do agree, they haven't proven themselves like the other league teams over the years....
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| Limplifter
July 19, 2011
5:32:32 PM
Entry #: 3765985
| I'd like to respectfully disagree in regards to non conference games. I agree that teams don't usually throw they're ace and that it may not be the full squad but that goes for both teams. I realize it may not be everyday starters but it shows depth or lack of depth on the teams. For instance most people would expect Tonka to take care of business no matter who they show up with.
In addition if a team is going to be in the rankings they are probably a contender to at least make the tourney and with a potential for quite a few games that third or fourth guy might need to throw some....so if you're talking about the top teams in the state I would say that it does matter.
Love
Limplifter
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| MNBBALL
July 19, 2011
6:03:17 PM
Entry #: 3766007
| Love the chit chatter. Minnetonka is in another class and to be fair they have a coach who pretty much recruits guys and makes it almost manadatory to make most games if your going to play for them. They have about 8-9 pitchers and Id say if this were the NCAA they would have multiple violations of tampering. Dont get me started on that topic! Another point, for example if your looking at Park National teams is they dont have home fields. I would definately say that the home teams they visit will have a lot more regular guys there since its in there home town and they dont have to travel.
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| joejack
July 19, 2011
6:06:59 PM
Entry #: 3766009
| I wasn't at all Saying the rankings are wrong. Just adding a note. I don't know enough about other teams to compare. And I think both teams threw guys that were making their first start on the year. It was a fun game other way, and Patriots catcher is a hell of a hitter. I'm still laughing about the fact that he yelled "fudge" when he hit a ball deep into the gap that almost went in for a double.
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| SlickWitIt
July 20, 2011
6:50:53 AM
Entry #: 3766229
| MnBall please get started in the topic of recruiting!!! I would love to hear you cry about how Tonka is just better than everyone else! P.S. They are pretty much made up of Concordia and Former Hopkins or Minnetonka guys.
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| MNBBALL
July 20, 2011
10:05:21 AM
Entry #: 3766365
| Wheres the humor? I'll use Mike Davis as one example. You dont need details just ask the Cobras and Park. Enough about Minnetonka, the point being is they are another level of organization.
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| Paul Revere
July 20, 2011
11:57:36 AM
Entry #: 3766490
| Mike Davis...Lifelong Minnetonka resident, played little league/babe ruth etc. at Big Willow Park Minnetonka, currently resides at 11911 W Willoway RD, Minnetonka, MN 55345, graduated from Hopkins High School as Minnetonka resident as did 90% of his HS peers. Called to see if he could play with his hometown team. Thats some strategic recruiting all right!
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| D. Erdall
July 20, 2011
1:16:47 PM
Entry #: 3766558
| Unlike the majority of people on this site, I have no problem putting my name behind my post. Rarely do I visit this site, and I’m still a younger player on the team, but when you start throwing out garbage I’ll defend my teammates and coach.
What a joke. First, we were heading for the downfall year with five losses and Minnetonka was overrated. Now we’re playing better ball and the squirrels come out crying about recruiting and chirping our skip. Pick one and stick with it.
Thank you MNbball for your great insight. “To be fair they have a coach who pretty much recruits guys (False. Every player on the team grew up in, resides in, or has very close ties to the city. Our skip has to turn down guys who want to play for the team, which was probably you and reason for your anger, or some of your teammates)… and makes it almost mandatory to make most games if your going to play for them (HAHA, quite the contrary. Probably the most flexible team to play for. Our core starters play in a lot of games because they love to be in the lineup and want to win. All players and coaches are understanding of business and personal absences). They have about 8-9 pitchers and Id say if this were the NCAA they would have multiple violations of tampering.” (We have 9 pitchers, all of which are understanding and accepting of their individual role, all tied to Minnetonka as stated above, and all do their job very well)… Any other brain busters?
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| AB4424
July 20, 2011
1:31:36 PM
Entry #: 3766588
| Donny,
Thank you for the input. It is a tough spot because the better Minnetonka does, the more shots they are going to take. That is what happens when a team can maintain the type or success that they have enjoyed. I think Minnetonka is great for town ball because they get other teams geared up to play them. They are the best and it's fun to try and beat the best. As far as recruiting, I am sure that Minnetonka plays by the rules. The Mike Davis situation only came about because Davis is a heck of a ball player and wanted to play on the best team in the state, nothing wrong with that. Yes, it might suck for Hopkins and the Cobra's, but it is what it is. Just the same for Donny, I am sure Bloomington would want him around (his hometown), but he chose to play for the Millers and so far it seems to be working out for him. Good luck Millers and the rest of Class A baseball as the playoffs are quickly approaching.
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| Old Pub Hat
July 20, 2011
1:57:54 PM
Entry #: 3766619
| Donny, no need to explain - as most guys understand all of your points. and i might add that the only difference between Tonka and the top Class A teams is that for the past 10+ years, you have been consistently unbeatable. You dont recruit any more than I do for my team and your Hoy isnt any more flexible than my manager, with regards to guy's schedules.
Point being: because of Tonkas track record over the past decade, there is going to be a target on your back. (although the target seems to be the size of a dime - and most of the time I feel like Im shooting from 500+ yards away)
Some guys look at it in a mature way and simply look for the next chance to play you - while others just complain and look for excuses.
it is what it is....
wish you luck - until we meet again.
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| spitsack
July 20, 2011
2:46:18 PM
Entry #: 3766673
| Erdall, AB4424, PubHat and Paul Revere solid posts.
Transversely it appears as though MNBall has solidified himself as the donkey of the site in perhaps taking over where I have so often left off. Only difference is I believe he is absolutely serious in his comments whereas 99.9% of the time I never was.
Recruiting?!?!? Mandatory attendance?!?!?!?
Obviously MNSACK knows what he is talking about! NOTTTTTTTT!
Get a clue dude and for that matter I am sure all of us would be enlightened by what violations could actually take place in Class A that would dictate managers/teams are out of order. Do you know the rules? Class A is pretty much an open ended affair and guys play where they want as long as they get releases as far as I know.
I also think someone forgot to add the simple fact in regard to Davis that Hopkins HS is actually in the city limits of Mtka!!!!!!!
In closing I appreciate the fact that Erdall uses his real name and that is something that I should have done all along and should perhaps do again now as it appears everyone knows who I am any way behind my disguise "SPITSACK."
With that being typed town ball is full of MNSACKS and aside from providing quips of humor every once in a while on the forum I am sure they are all of the mold on the field when they act like complete idiots who actually think they are good.
Last but not least in all seriousness I wish the best of luck to the Skyline this year and I sincerely mean that. However as someone else mentioned there are always Skyline cheerleaders on here chirpping about no respect and this team or that team is legit.....it happens every year in typed written form but there is no put up to institute any shutting up.
Perhaps Stockmens is legit this year I have absolutely no idea but if I recall the same thing was said about them last year.
I can't remember how they or any other Skyline team did in the tourney last year or any other year for that matter.
Green Mill '08 runner up right? Enough said.
Peaaaace to all!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| spitsack
July 20, 2011
2:53:44 PM
Entry #: 3766678
| Hopefully it is not Stockmens strength of schedule that gives verification that they are legit because their RPI would certainly not be very high.
Sometimes things simply are what they are.
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| Cyclone16
July 20, 2011
3:19:15 PM
Entry #: 3766706
| To clear up the Mike Davis issue with Park I'll say a few word. The Cobras can answer or not, it's pretty irrelevant.
Mike and I talked he was very upfront it was between Park and Tonka, I gave him a date to let me know by. He never said he was committed to us before that date (couldn't tell you what the date was at this point) and the date rolled along he chose Tonka...end of story.
Good luck to him and them.
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| Skyline Stud
July 20, 2011
4:12:07 PM
Entry #: 3766738
| these posts are so damn lame
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| Limplifter
July 20, 2011
5:04:04 PM
Entry #: 3766770
| Kyline stud. Please form your own forum on a completely different website and refrain from ever speaking on here again.
Thank you,
Limplifter
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| 3strikekid
July 20, 2011
5:46:38 PM
Entry #: 3766788
| I have yet to see any team that forces players to show up to games. Also, recruiting? Really? The core of that team has been playing together for the last 5 years at least. They may add a new player or two per year, but really, what team doesnt? Instead of making excuses about how good they are, maybe your should get better and get your team better so you can compete against them.
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| WillyMaysHays
July 20, 2011
8:15:11 PM
Entry #: 3766876
| First time posting this season and I must say there is no reason to defend Minnetonka about anything. My god the team has one like 10 titles in 12 years or something of that nature. Everybody loves to bash the Yankees so why not the Millers. We all know they are the best team in the state. Mn Ball I dont agree with everything you have said yet Tonka is a team you love to hate and they get other players away from teams cause they are the best. Hoy runs a great program and no other teams can compare to what they offer. It makes it fun to try and beat them but isn't so fun that they win every year and they get a lot of the best players. I see it like the double A level for the Saints :) Good luck to everyone the rest of the way.
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