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TOPIC: Rule interpretations |
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| LB4LB
July 10, 2018
12:39:54 PM
Entry #: 4253492
| In a game a few weeks back. I played 1st for the very first time... A slow roller came to me and the runner was running down the line hard, I knew I had to race him to the bag. I couldn't get there with my foot so I dove to the bag with the ball in my bare hand. Here's the question...
I touched the bag with the ball before the runner and then the ball popped out of my hand when my shoulder hit the ground. Ump called the runner out but the other team argued that the ball popped loose. Was the runner out or safe?
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| mike g
July 10, 2018
1:53:40 PM
Entry #: 4253507
| To record an out, at 1st, 2nd or 3rd base, on a force out, the defensive player MUST show control of the ball and body and MUST have a voluntary release, by going into your glove and taking the ball out. In my opinion, you had the ball in your hand, dove to the base, touched the base with the ball in your hand, then as you said, your shoulder hit the ground and the ball became dis-lodged from your hand. again no dis-respect, there was no control of the ball and therefore, there was no voluntary release. I would have called it safe.
I hope that answers your question.
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| Moulton
July 10, 2018
2:27:19 PM
Entry #: 4253510
| The runner is out.
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| Cashman
July 10, 2018
5:21:44 PM
Entry #: 4253522
| Can the ground cause a fumble?
Or is that a football thing?
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| Knight
July 11, 2018
5:13:19 AM
Entry #: 4253546
| Great explanation Mike. I still think the runner is out.
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| Peatsum
July 11, 2018
2:30:42 PM
Entry #: 4253596
| Still a out.
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| TransCare
July 11, 2018
6:29:33 PM
Entry #: 4253616
| i would say he is out if you had control of the ball on the way to, and touching the bag.........................................dropping it "after" to me would be like 2B losing it on a transfer after the force out step on the bag is done
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| Empress Ruler
July 11, 2018
11:29:00 PM
Entry #: 4253647
| Me thinks ?safe? is the appropriate call.
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| Bud Wiser
July 12, 2018
4:14:05 PM
Entry #: 4253695
| From what was described above
You
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OUT
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| MI5
July 13, 2018
8:08:22 PM
Entry #: 4253748
| out
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| tswear
July 14, 2018
12:24:06 PM
Entry #: 4253771
| The description from Mike above is this best.
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| Gopher
July 15, 2018
11:51:14 AM
Entry #: 4253801
| Some plays are subjective. Our umpires have to make judgements in the blink of an eye. Our guys are outstanding. A very high percentage of calls are accurate.
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| JAG 28
July 16, 2018
12:25:36 PM
Entry #: 4253890
| If a defender were to have the ball in his hand and he reached out and tagged the runner and the ball dropped (runner did not tear it out of the defenders hand) then the runner would be SAFE. Apply same logic to this scenario and runner is SAFE.
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| Local 1134
July 17, 2018
1:11:26 PM
Entry #: 4253990
| I think this is a newish rule but not 100%
A Player currently on base can't tag up on a caught foul ball if it is the 3rd strike.
Is this correct?
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| Bud Wiser
July 17, 2018
2:06:08 PM
Entry #: 4253995
| I could be way off on this but here goes...
Ball caught in foul territory (even if it is strike 3) is not a strike as the ball never touched the playing field or foul territory, you would score it as a putout. Once defense made the catch resulting in an out. I believe the ball is now live and runners can advance at their own peril. I would think it would be no different than it being hit off the first pitch and caught in foul territory. Runners can still advance...
Again I could be way off... I usually strike out swinging so ... lol
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| JAG 28
July 17, 2018
7:24:07 PM
Entry #: 4254019
| You can tag up ad go - on a 3rd strike caught in foul territory.
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| Faux
July 18, 2018
11:45:42 PM
Entry #: 4254102
| The third strike is irrelevant, tag and go.
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| Duchy
July 19, 2018
5:04:47 PM
Entry #: 4254142
| I believe this is to speed up the game. Faster to make the catch then have people letting it drop then going to pick it up and throw it in.
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| Bigelow
July 22, 2018
5:05:25 PM
Entry #: 4254303
| You can tag up at any ball hit in the year.
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| tuck00
July 22, 2018
9:26:45 PM
Entry #: 4254318
| I believe it's an NSA ruling only. It was explained to me like this 2 years ago...the ball is considered touched and therefore foul before it is caught and a put out. Therefore if there are 2 strikes and the ball is caught it is actually considered touched first resulting in strike 3 which results in a dead ball. If there are 1 or 0 strikes then the same holds true, it's a strike, but the catch out is the result and the ball stays live allowing runners to advance.
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| Purelife
July 23, 2018
4:07:57 PM
Entry #: 4254384
| This is very confusing.
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| uarms
July 24, 2018
4:17:50 PM
Entry #: 4254476
| Should our educate umpires respond to these questions
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| Bigelow
July 26, 2018
4:03:13 PM
Entry #: 4254679
| Does the infield fly rule come into affect when none are out
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| silverfox
July 29, 2018
7:06:58 AM
Entry #: 4254843
| An Infield Fly is a fair fly ball (not a line drive ) that, in the judgment of the special umpire, can be caught by an infielder, pitcher, or catcher with ordinary effort and when there are runners on first and second or first, second, and third and less than two outs.
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| Wahl
July 30, 2018
4:34:40 PM
Entry #: 4255033
| Deep fly-ball down the left field line.. Outfielder camps under the ball and is standing in fair territory (his right foot is on the line and left foot in fair) Outfielder reaches out to his right to make the catch (glove and ball now in foul territory) and the ball bounces off his glove and lands in foul territory.
Umpire calls it a foul ball.
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| Bill T
July 30, 2018
6:07:48 PM
Entry #: 4255044
| If the ball is foul when touched, it's a foul ball. Where you are standing does not matter. Umpire made the right call.
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| Bigelow
July 31, 2018
6:05:26 PM
Entry #: 4255196
| Foul ball!
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| Winger
August 1, 2018
3:06:58 PM
Entry #: 4255273
| Defineyly a foul ball.
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