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| Rev Hero
February 26, 2023
7:48:18 AM
Entry #: 4351403
| A conversation starter. I'd love to hear your predications for this year, as you wake up this morning
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| JAG 28
February 26, 2023
12:47:39 PM
Entry #: 4351404
| I predict there will be people starting "Topics" on the message board - that duplicate "Topics" already on the message board.
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| Empress Ruler
February 26, 2023
2:06:34 PM
Entry #: 4351410
| Are we using the 1-1 count?
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| Knight
February 27, 2023
3:06:50 AM
Entry #: 4351412
| I predict
Some amazing summer nights
Some chilly nights at Milley
Some great ball
Some great guys
Some good umpires
Some outstanding plays
Like the 1-1 count.
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| CC & Coke
February 27, 2023
8:08:55 AM
Entry #: 4351413
| 2023—— another year of intriguing ball with a 1-1 count.
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| Larry))
February 27, 2023
5:20:06 PM
Entry #: 4351425
| Predictions
JAG continues to hate everything in Toronto.
One team in each division will win the championship.
Our umpires again will be spectacular.
The nights will be dark.
Some nights will be hot.
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| tuck00
February 28, 2023
1:15:42 AM
Entry #: 4351429
| The older I get, the more I understand that it is okay to l not worry about the silly predicament called the future. Get out, play the games, experience life.
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| Azzuri
February 28, 2023
11:33:44 AM
Entry #: 4351431
| The boys will be back and stronger this year.
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| Jets6400
February 28, 2023
3:45:47 PM
Entry #: 4351434
| The 1-1 count is a game changer in a very positive way.
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| HR Leader
March 1, 2023
11:45:18 AM
Entry #: 4351440
| Happy New Year to everyone, and especially to anyone who's eagerly anticipating the 2023 season.
Do we know what the biggest stories will be this year? We do not. What we do have, though, are a dozen predictions for what they might be.
One might say these predictions are of the bold variety, but, hey, it's not as if anyone is out there demanding boring predictions only. And if one is going to spin a yarn about what the future holds, they might as well use a gaudy post on this forum.
So, we went all out in awe of Gregory's performance, projecting big pickups and picking teams for disappointing or excellent seasons. We thought about how we can better compete.
Let's read what is going on.
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| Massa
March 1, 2023
7:44:42 PM
Entry #: 4351442
| Quite the post above.
We will have a season filled with thrills and boning moments.
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| Birkey
March 2, 2023
6:56:15 AM
Entry #: 4351443
| Interesting comments here so far.
Never played with a 1-1 count, but anything to speed up the game and get more innings played. You got my “yes” or hand up for the vote.
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| Eden-xy
March 2, 2023
12:50:07 PM
Entry #: 4351445
| finally, something to get excited about................me like this one/one
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| Local 1134
March 2, 2023
8:47:41 PM
Entry #: 4351456
| good for me
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| B complex
March 3, 2023
10:33:34 AM
Entry #: 4351459
| I don't have a crystal ball or any kind of crystal ball-ish device, so you'll have to take these for what they're worth. But even in the face of the eventual humiliation of having gotten not a single thing right, I offer this.
All of the same teams will repeat this year.
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| Ethos71
March 5, 2023
10:09:20 AM
Entry #: 4351483
| I seriously believe that back to back championships in this league is almost impossible.
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| 5 Tools
March 5, 2023
3:57:36 PM
Entry #: 4351489
| One & One to start will expedite the games considerably.
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| Network Man
March 6, 2023
2:49:20 PM
Entry #: 4351498
| Common sense would dictate that the games should be completed faster. I would love to experiment with the 1-1 count.
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| Ouptire
March 6, 2023
6:37:30 PM
Entry #: 4351505
| The ball is lobbed at a speed of 3km, is it literally not that difficult to hit?
Swing at the first one and put the ball in play. waiting for walks is just a total waste of time.
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| Green Balls
March 7, 2023
4:32:21 AM
Entry #: 4351508
| Not sure which teams have added or deleted players, so it is hard to predict anything for this year. Like the concept of the 1 and 1 count.
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| Massa
March 7, 2023
10:09:45 PM
Entry #: 4351518
| The most boring part of our sport is a walk. Swing the bat, put the ball in play. All sort of thing will happen. Swing away!
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| Wahl
March 8, 2023
5:48:51 PM
Entry #: 4351530
| I agree, walks are a waste of time for everyone. Trying the 1-1 while spice things up a bit.
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| Peatsum
March 9, 2023
10:22:38 AM
Entry #: 4351538
| Go outside and let the sunshine do its work on you and your immune system for at least 15 minutes. If you can, go barefoot and feel your feet on the ground. After all of that you will come to the conclusion that the one and one count is the way to go.
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| Blumpkin
March 10, 2023
3:21:36 PM
Entry #: 4351552
| Yes, it’s nearly here: the beginning of Daylight-Saving Time, with the springing forward of clocks this Sunday morning. Although it won’t have any direct impact on your ball decisions, there are subtle, indirect consequences you may want to consider. Changing your clocks, will JAG be more grumpy with too much sunlight?
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| MBA98
March 10, 2023
7:33:55 PM
Entry #: 4351557
| The longer daylight hours could cause you to feel more energetic and optimistic, leading to an increase in playing multiple nights. While such actions could be beneficial for your ball skills, these tendencies should be tempered with a clear-eyed understanding of their effects on your long-term family life. Let's play ball, like the 1-1 count.
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| Sultan of the swing
March 11, 2023
11:00:52 AM
Entry #: 4351559
| The concept of the one-and-one count works for me.
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| JAG 28
March 11, 2023
3:32:35 PM
Entry #: 4351560
| Blumpy, I love the sunshine. As we know there are 2 seasons in Canada Winter and Baseball.
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| Anchor
March 12, 2023
12:49:20 PM
Entry #: 4351566
| The new rule to start the AB at 1,1 will make the game exciting and faster.
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| Birkey
March 13, 2023
6:27:50 AM
Entry #: 4351572
| Watched Canada and Great Britain in the WBC yesterday. It was like a bad uspl game on a Monday night. No pitchers, and shaky D. It was a chaotic, mercy-rule win. I hope we see both teams on Monday nights this year.
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| Justin time
March 14, 2023
12:35:48 AM
Entry #: 4351577
| First time this spring/ summer season. A might be a little rusty because of the switch from slowpitch to fastpitch, but hopefully I can make the adjustments! Tips anyone
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| HR Leader
March 14, 2023
11:39:22 PM
Entry #: 4351584
| Sit back and wait. Nice easy swings.
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| JAG 28
March 15, 2023
5:18:58 PM
Entry #: 4351588
| HRL: spoken like a true slo-pitch hitter. Difference is one ball is coming at 10 mph - the other at 70 mph. You sit back and wait and the ball is in the cather's glove.
In fast ball your approach is you are Swing/Swing/Stop OR Swing/Swing/Swing. In fast ball you are swinging at every pitch until the last moment. You don't have time to sit back pick your ass then swing.
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| tuck00
March 16, 2023
7:18:34 AM
Entry #: 4351591
| Good luck to the former hardball player. It will take a few weeks to get your swing.
The proposal to start with one and one is excellent. The games will be faster.
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| A,Wisdom
March 17, 2023
4:17:56 PM
Entry #: 4351605
| I really like the idea to spied up the game using the 1/1 count.
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| Fureza
March 18, 2023
11:01:06 AM
Entry #: 4351610
| is it possible to try the one and one for the first few months?
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| 5 Tools
March 19, 2023
1:56:56 PM
Entry #: 4351614
| Once you try it, you will all love the 1-1 count. Give it a try.
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| Ouptire
March 20, 2023
10:04:05 AM
Entry #: 4351620
| My team is willing to give it a chance. Only a minor few were hesitant to try.
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| JAG 28
March 20, 2023
3:18:02 PM
Entry #: 4351624
| Love the 1-1 ????
Basically you have one pitch to hit. Hit the next strike after you step into the box, and have a 1-1.
If not then you only have the NEXT STRIKE and you had better be bating defensively, sometimes swinging at pitches close, but not your sweet pitch.
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| Bud Wiser
March 21, 2023
7:40:55 AM
Entry #: 4351629
| A positive mindset decreases cortisol levels, which improves sleep, your swing, your D, and more. It’s a game changer. Share this fact with your crusty teammates that can’t stand change. Get it a try boys.
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| daump
March 22, 2023
8:18:58 AM
Entry #: 4351638
| Why are people afraid of change…… give it a shot ……. We definitely will gats more at bats.
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| Yarbs22
March 22, 2023
5:39:16 PM
Entry #: 4351645
| Integrating the possibility of a 1-1 count, I would like to try it.
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| kiku
March 23, 2023
11:43:25 AM
Entry #: 4351648
| Played games last year with the 1/1 count. Change is not always perceived to be good. I was indifferent at the start but now I love it.
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| ParAvion
March 24, 2023
12:52:35 PM
Entry #: 4351664
| The thought of starting your at-bat with only the likelihood of two strikes will feel strange but we are talking slow pitch.
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| bugatti
March 25, 2023
7:44:40 PM
Entry #: 4351679
| Not sure I like this rule.
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| bugatti
March 25, 2023
7:44:48 PM
Entry #: 4351680
| Not sure I like this rule.
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| Fertility
March 27, 2023
12:19:26 AM
Entry #: 4351696
| The new rule will change the speed of the game, can’t see any negative. The ball will be in play faster, action and more action.
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| Green Balls
March 28, 2023
7:19:52 AM
Entry #: 4351707
| I am skeptical about this whole move to a 1-1 count but I’m also willing to try anything to move the game along. Time restraints usually does not allow us to complete games on time. This is all about the players and the time to start a new half of an inning. Most guys are lollygagging to their positions, especially the outfielders.
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| winelife
March 28, 2023
11:59:14 AM
Entry #: 4351710
| Good point, let's try to get in all 7 innings. Excited to try this new rule.
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| Ouptire
March 29, 2023
6:57:37 PM
Entry #: 4351734
| The more we play, the better it is for all of us. 2 thumbs up from me.
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| Chevylover
March 30, 2023
8:50:50 PM
Entry #: 4351748
| I am in favour of the 3-balls & 2-strikes rule.
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| chinos D
March 31, 2023
9:43:17 PM
Entry #: 4351755
| Do it
Do it
Do it
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| 360oBB
April 1, 2023
11:51:03 AM
Entry #: 4351758
| Everyone will grow to like the 1/1 count.
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| Tuyuvu
April 2, 2023
8:32:43 PM
Entry #: 4351775
| Like??? I think they will Love it.
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| Guy Smiley
April 3, 2023
8:48:57 AM
Entry #: 4351779
| New rule suggestion for this season.
A walk on 4 straight balls, the batter gets to go to 2nd base,
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| Dublinxx
April 3, 2023
1:29:30 PM
Entry #: 4351781
| Everyone that has the experience of playing with this count absolutely loves it.
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| silverfox
April 4, 2023
6:47:24 AM
Entry #: 4351786
| What is the harm in trying it?
This old dog is willing to make the change to get more AB.
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| Jets6400
April 5, 2023
1:44:10 PM
Entry #: 4351806
| Slo pitch is meant to be played every night and it is a hitters game. So why do we need to stand around watching guys take borderline pitches for a walk?
One and one all the way.
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| 122cam
April 7, 2023
10:59:53 AM
Entry #: 4351835
| I really like the 1-1 but not sure that most of the older boys would want that rule.
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| Birkey
April 9, 2023
8:28:09 AM
Entry #: 4351851
| Not sure why you would make a statement like that, why?
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| JAG 28
April 9, 2023
12:43:41 PM
Entry #: 4351853
| 122Cam: go ahead explain your comment. Is it because the seniors are more intelligent?
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| Purelife
April 10, 2023
11:08:09 AM
Entry #: 4351857
| Some people cant stand change hence this will not fly.
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| rock21
April 11, 2023
3:14:28 PM
Entry #: 4351876
| With time limits per game, how about speeding up games by batters starting with a 1ball and 1strike count? Standing in the outfield waiting for batters to swing before they get a strike sometimes or sometimes working the count to 3-2 can really be tough on fielders on a very hot or cold night. How often do we not get into the 7th inning costing players more at-bats and playing time?
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| JAG 28
April 11, 2023
4:35:05 PM
Entry #: 4351877
| Rock, that's a great idea. We should discuss it on the forum.
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| Fureza
April 12, 2023
11:06:04 AM
Entry #: 4351883
| Limit the pitcher to one warm-up pitch at the start of the inning. Yes, hustle but that's tough to enforce. Another thing that can help the pace of play is to ELIMINATE the ridiculous mound chats. This is slowpitch, "strategy" doesn't need to be micro-managed at the mound by a Sparky Anderson wannabe! It can wait until you're in the dugout or yell out "Hey walk this guy".
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| Goldglover1
April 13, 2023
10:23:38 AM
Entry #: 4351900
| Every year we beat this dead horse on certain rules. Speaking as an umpire and player the 1-1 starting count does not necessarily speed up the game because not every batter takes the count full every time at bat. It's up to the individual player to speed the game up. On defence, the game is sped up, players are more into the game alert and ready to play behind a pitcher that tosses strikes. Make more defensive plays, fewer errors, and avoid the common delays (pinch runners not ready, snailing on and off the field between innings, not ready to bat, throw more strikes, throwing infield practice balls every inning, etc.) There is a myriad of other hidden time wasters in today's game and somehow we continue to invent more every season. The problem isn't in the count, it's in us in our capacity as players. This notion that simply going to a 1-1 count will be some sort of panacea is wrong. It hasn't worked in the tournament circuit and leagues so why would it work in our league? Throwing the first two pitches for strikes is better than a 1-1 count.
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| Chalkeee
April 16, 2023
10:58:41 PM
Entry #: 4351938
| Missing from this discussion is any data collection. Numerous causes for delays are outlined but there is no measurement of the impact of these causes. For example, courtesy runners are a clear delay but how much time per incident is lost and how many times per game does it happen?
Before fundamentally changing the game with a 1-1 pitch count, game studies quantifying the impact of the various sources of delay are needed. This is very knowledgeable data. Anecdotal experiences are not sound bases for such a significant change. If this proposal is to the point of a Rules Committee consideration, a more sound analysis is warranted.
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| Gone Fishzing
April 18, 2023
7:01:32 AM
Entry #: 4351958
| Chalk there can be no study, actual or otherwise, that could prove that 6 pitches will be "consumed" more quickly than 4 or 5 pitches.
Plus many batters are swinging at the 1st strike in the 1-1 count to avoid being in a 2-strike hole vs many hitters taking at least 1 strike in the 0-0 count because they can.
Anyone that's played both knows this is true.
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| Tuyuvu
April 18, 2023
9:46:51 AM
Entry #: 4351959
| Many good points were made in this thread. Most hitters don't want to be in a 2 strike situation then have to swing at a marginal pitch, whereas hitters will routinely take the first in a 0-0 count.
All the other suggestions to speed up the game are valid but all other things being equal, the 1-1 count will speed up the game.
Furthermore, regardless of game time limits, I think the 1-1 count is better, period. This is such a hitter's game already. In a game dominated by hitters they still want the 0-0 count because it increases the chances of getting that big fat pitch to blast over the fence.
To the extent hitters do swing at the first pitch with a 0-0 count, it is often because pitchers will throw a strike just to get ahead. With a 1-1 count batters need to be more aggressive on the first pitch, which elevates its importance and the pitcher's need to hit the corners.
In my opinion, it's a better game with a 1-1 count, and a little faster as well. Watching a pitcher play one hop catch with his teammate behind the plate is tedious, and should be reduced.
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| Sultan of the swing
April 18, 2023
11:36:40 PM
Entry #: 4351977
| Does the 1 and 1 count speed up games? Probably a little. But it also might result in a few more walks, which could also slow the game down.
The question about speeding up the game is interesting because we get to play for 80 minutes time limit either way.
Maybe another way to speed the "pace of play" would be for the hitting team to stay up to bat for 2 innings at a time (clearing the bases after 3 outs) for the first 4 innings, then revert back to one inning at a time for the 5th, 6th, and 7th.
All hell will break loose in 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1...
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| Redkel1
April 19, 2023
8:47:03 PM
Entry #: 4351986
| So, what I your goal?
As a player, what is your goal?
Is it to make the game move along at a faster pace?
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| 122cam
April 20, 2023
11:05:08 AM
Entry #: 4351991
| There is NO intent to speed up the games ... The only intent is to maximize innings played in the same allotted time frames ... Those descriptions are not the same concept ...
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| Mr. October
April 21, 2023
9:01:29 PM
Entry #: 4352005
| There are a lot of "real" reasons, depending, in my view, largely on players' personal experiences ... Most of the "youngsters" (50+ and younger) tend to favour 1-1 because that's all they have to pee every minute... Others, regardless of age, prefer 1-1 because that's what they play in tournaments where time is important ... There are also the opposing viewpoints known as Pitchers and Everyone Else! ... Pitchers tend to favour 1-1 as a balancing of their perception that the game is already too much structured in favour of the offence... Regardless, I'm in the "maximize innings" goal as the best "real" reason ... More innings = more at-bats is pretty easy to support ...
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| Guy Smiley
April 23, 2023
11:09:03 AM
Entry #: 4352021
| Seen spirited arguments for it and against the 1-1 count in this thread, but for me, it comes down to the increased probability that the game will go the full 7 innings, which also increases my chance for 1 additional at-bat per game. I am all in favour of potentially 1 more at bat per game. I like that the 1-1 count experiment started last year in the tournament circuit last year. We could consider also experimenting with it this year since the older age groups most want to adopt this. Is that a possibility?
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| RRForever
April 24, 2023
3:18:51 PM
Entry #: 4352038
| Please give me these simple math and numbers:
How many batters consume 6 pitches in an at-bat in a game?
How long does it take for one pitch?
The product of these two components will determine how much time can be saved.
I prefer to reject conventional wisdom and consensus of thought in favor of actual studies
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| Hat0man
April 25, 2023
11:19:57 PM
Entry #: 4352073
| I vote 1 and 1 count. Played all year and never played less than 7 innings even in high-scoring games(weren't many on our part lol)
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| Yarbs22
April 27, 2023
12:48:56 PM
Entry #: 4352083
| my solution is one pitch in between innings
Games would last about 30 minutes and you get 7 innings.
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| kiku
April 29, 2023
1:33:42 PM
Entry #: 4352109
| Let's just say a pitched ball takes 30 seconds from pitcher to catcher and back to pitcher for the next pitch. 30 sec X 3 batters= 1.5 minutes X 2 for a full inning=3 minutes. 3 minutes X 5 innings is 15 minutes.
So 15 minutes wasted. and for the skeptics yes some guys swing at first pitch, true but most innings have more than 6 batters maximum so I think we can agree they cancel out.
So saving 15 minutes of time during innings 1 through 5 should get more innings in total.
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| kiku
April 29, 2023
1:33:55 PM
Entry #: 4352110
| Let's just say a pitched ball takes 30 seconds from pitcher to catcher and back to pitcher for the next pitch. 30 sec X 3 batters= 1.5 minutes X 2 for a full inning=3 minutes. 3 minutes X 5 innings is 15 minutes.
So 15 minutes wasted. and for the skeptics yes some guys swing at first pitch, true but most innings have more than 6 batters maximum so I think we can agree they cancel out.
So saving 15 minutes of time during innings 1 through 5 should get more innings in total.
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| Anchor
April 30, 2023
11:54:24 PM
Entry #: 4352142
| We need an edit function
We need an edit function on our threads. Sometimes posting in a hurry after you press enter that you forgot something and we should be able to go back and edit our comments. I like the 1-1, definitely will save time.
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| Our-take
May 8, 2023
8:53:22 AM
Entry #: 4352235
| One of the biggest travesties last year was Love beating out Active. They were 100 times better than Love in all aspects of the game and it’s seriously not even close. But the Leafs were also better than the Panthers. Like the 1-1 count.
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| Yaya
May 9, 2023
2:31:54 PM
Entry #: 4352255
| Move on, old news.
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| Duchy
May 11, 2023
10:11:56 AM
Entry #: 4352289
| It will be an intriguing year, new team and new adventures. Let’s all have a good one, cheers.
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| robokill
May 13, 2023
12:53:57 PM
Entry #: 4352307
| Duch, I don't know what you are on, but I want some of it......
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| Birkey
May 14, 2023
6:47:40 AM
Entry #: 4352316
| One more sleep away.
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| Empress Ruler
May 16, 2023
12:46:33 AM
Entry #: 4352336
| Tonight is the night.
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| Eau55
May 16, 2023
9:00:57 AM
Entry #: 4352341
| Dubas has done nothing right in 7 years. Over paid and for soft players thinking the NHL playoffs we’re going to change and start calling one hand penalties. Bye bye.
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| Canthit10
May 17, 2023
10:49:33 PM
Entry #: 4352370
| The season has begun in a glorious manner. On to 2023 forget the memories of 2022.
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| Mr. October
May 18, 2023
7:21:30 PM
Entry #: 4352382
| My favourite memory from 2022 was my birthday party, celebrating with mates in the lot after a rare win. A lot of other memories…some good…some I’d like to forget…I wouldn’t want every play on another team. Bring on the summer of 23 for more good times, less bad times and making memories we never forget with a big win in the end.
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| Azzuri
May 25, 2023
12:00:29 AM
Entry #: 4352469
| Had a good time playing slopitch, too bad I won’t be able to play next week, but June 1st I’ll be ready and hell is coming with me
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| Canthit10
June 12, 2023
5:57:37 AM
Entry #: 4352624
| Is the rain going to be an issue tonight?
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| JAG 28
June 12, 2023
2:21:01 PM
Entry #: 4352634
| Canthit10 (or swim). Not if your're a duck.
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