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| Anthony Toma
December 27, 2009
11:38:33 AM
Entry #: 3365070
| Jan 31st in San Diego
We want to fly out late Friday and fly back late Sunday or early Monday
Each of you is responsible for flights and spending money. Part of the hotel and the vans are being taken care of by the guy hosting the tourney.
They are waiving the entry fee for the tourney and kicking in $750.00 to take care of the rooms and vans.
If you have any questions post them and I will try to answer them for you.
We are asking anyone that wants to come to go to Sylvan Lanes and drop off a $200 deposit to hold your spot. Dropping off the money does not get you a spot on the roster it simply lets us know you are serious about going. We are restricted to a 12 man roster, so we want to take the 12 best guys out to represent Detroit.
It’s a 6 team tourney all Chaldeans from around the SD area and I believe they have a team coming in from AZ too.
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| Anthony Toma
December 27, 2009
11:45:52 AM
Entry #: 3365071
| If we get enough guys to drop off money to the Lanes by this coming Wednesday, we will register. If not, I will let them know that Detroit Chaldeans have no heart and we won't go.
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| Anthony Toma
December 27, 2009
11:57:45 AM
Entry #: 3365076
| If you drop off the $200 and you are not part of the 12 man roster, you will get your money back with 12% compounded interest.
If you drop off the $200 and decide last minute you can’t go, we will use the $200 to help pay for someone else to come. The flight will cost a little more and the $200 will help.
The biggest thing is that we don’t want to go out there shorthanded and make fools of ourselves. I am ignorant enough to think we can play with 5 guys and win the thing, but common sense tells me we are going to need at least 6!
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| WESTSIDETONY
December 27, 2009
11:21:41 PM
Entry #: 3365159
| Im In 100%, and eastside is in also, lets do thissss
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| Showstopper??
December 31, 2009
4:39:01 PM
Entry #: 3366386
| The Showstopper is in 100% too. time to teach the boys from California how we play ball over here.
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| Sean Mattia
January 3, 2010
3:29:14 PM
Entry #: 3367029
| Sean and Anthony Acho are in!
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| Anthony Toma
January 19, 2010
4:02:41 PM
Entry #: 3375996
| Sorry to say I'm not going to be able to make the trip to SD. Something work related came up and there is no way out of it.
"One Monkey doesn't stop the show"
With that said, we have a tournament to WIN!
Sean, you said you had a place to rent a couple cars for the 3 days. We need to make the reservation in someone’s name. Does the person need to be a certain age?
Let me know if you got this Sean.
We are getting 4 rooms with 2 queen size beds per room. If anyone is not cool with it let me know and you can get your own room. If you are planning on staying with relatives, that’s cool too.
Either way let me know on that.
The rooms are going to be $109.00 per night plus tax. We will have all 4 rooms from Friday at noon until Monday at noon.
I need everyone to post what time they fly in and what time they fly out on the site.
Natham and Tony are the team captains and will be calling the shots.
Tony has the D and Nate has the O
Playing time is not guaranteed but I feel like everyone will get to play at least one way.
We need to submit a roster and sign waivers this week.
Anthony Acho, I need to give the color of our jerseys. Can you post the color for me please?
So far I have
Nate Captain
Tony Captain
Anthony A
Sean M
Fadi
Dylan
Jordan
Danny S
Joey F
Lance S
Chris S
Mark H
Timmy Abbo lives there
Am I missing anyone that is booked or confirmed?
Rule posted below. Some of the rules are very girly but I guess that’s how the West coast roles
If the rules or terms outlined above changes anyone’s mind about going please let me know by posting your concerns or that fact that you don’t want to go anymore.
Thanks
A very sad AT
2010 4th ANNUAL CHALDEAN/ASSYRIAN FLAG FOOTBALL TOURNAMENT
DATE Sunday, January 31, 2010
TIME 9:00AM
PLACE YMCA - Rancho San Diego
CFF RULES 2010
THE FIELD
DIMENSIONS - The game shall be played upon a rectangular field which measures 70 yards in length. This will include an 50 yard playing field and two 10yard end zones.
MARKINGS - First down markers are positioned at each teams 25 yard line which is mid field. First downs are only achieved by crossing this marker.
Ball Placement- Offensive Teams shall start possession of the ball at their own 7 yard line.
TIME BETWEEN PLAYS Uniforms tournament
Teams will be required to wear like color shirts or jerseys. Numbers for players and team names are allowed on uniforms. During the game, shirts or jerseys must be tucked in at all times.
Players
NUMBER - The game is to be played by two teams of SEVEN (7) players each. More than seven players on the field is illegal. A 5 yard penalty will be added for illegal substitutions.
ROSTERS - Players can not switch teams after this game has started.
ROSTERS - Teams must carry a maximum of 12 players and a minimum of 7 players on their roster .
GAME TIMING
LENGTH OF THE GAME - The length of the game is 40 minutes, divided into 2 quarters of 20 minutes. Running time with no clock stoppage is used in the first half. Clock stoppage will is used only in the FINAL 2 MINUTES of the SECOND HALF.
STARTING EACH GAME - A coin toss will determine either of one of two choices, which team is to receive the ball or which goal his team will defend.
TIME OUTS - Each team is allowed three (3) time outs per half. Charged time outs can be used at anytime. The time clock will begin at the snap of the next play.
EXCEPTION: The Referee may allow necessary time to attend to an injured player or repair legal equipment in which the Referee will use his discretion on whether or not the clock stops.
- The offensive team has 30 SECONDS in which to snap the ball once the referee has spotted the ball after the previous play has been ruled dead. It shall be the responsibility of the offensive team to retrieve the ball and hand it to the referee after each play. The referee will indicate by signaling to the offensive team when 10 seconds remains on the 30 second clock, and a 5 yard penalty will incur if the ball is not snapped within 30 seconds.
MERCY RULE – No mercy rule in effect.
Offense
Formation
LINE OF SCRIMMAGE - Offensive team must have at least two (2) offensive lineman players on the line of scrimmage at the time of the snap.
MOTION – Motion is NOT allowed
BLOCKING- Full contact blocking is permitted. No blocking in the back or roll blocking is permitted. No Elbows aloud nor any blocking above the neck or face.
ELIGIBLE RECEIVERS - ALL 5 PLAYERS excluding LINEMEN ARE ELIGIBLE- NO LINEMAN ARE ELIGIBLE FOR A PASS OR RUN. Receivers can all line up on one side there does not have to be a balanced wide receiver set.
FLAG GUARDING - A ball carrier can not shield his flags from the opponent with his free hand when attempting to elude tacklers. Play will be dead at the spot of the foul and will result in a 5 yard penalty & loss of down, unless the ball carrier exceeds the 1st down mark by more then 5 yards.
STIFF ARMING - Stiff arming is illegal and will draw an unnecessary roughness penalty. This will result in a penalty of 5 yards from the spot of the foul and loss of down.
Defense
RUSHING -Full rush is allowed on every down..
BUMP AND RUN – Bump and Run is allowed on a receiver within five (5) yards of the line of scrimmage.
TACKLING AND RUNNING
TACKLING - A legal tackle is defined as pulling OFF the ball carrier's flag belt, without impeding his forward movement. Incidental contact does not constitute a penalty against the offense or defense. Tackling a ball carrier is ILLEGAL, as is aggressively shoving or pushing the ball carrier to the ground or out of bounds without making an attempt to pull the flag. Penalty: 5 yards plus automatic 1st down.
PLACEMENT OF THE BALL WHEN FLAG IS PULLED
SPOTTING THE BALL - The ball will be placed at the point of the ball when the flag is pulled.
BALL CARRIER IS NOT WEARING OR INADVERTENTLY LOSSES HIS FLAG BELT - In an event a ball carrier is not wearing or loses his flag belt inadvertently, single hand touching of the ball carrier will constitute a legal tackle. It is illegal to pull someone’s flags before the ball arrives. If this happens, the runner is not down until touched, and a 5 yard penalty will be added to the end of the play.
BALL CARRIER INADVERTENTLY FALLS TO THE GROUND - A ball carrier who falls to the ground is CONSIDERED DOWN and will not be allowed to get back up to play. A player is allowed to put his hand on the ground without being considered down.
FUMBLES - There are NO FUMBLES. When the ball carriers loses control of the ball and it touches the ground the play is ruled dead and the ball is spotted at the point it touched the ground as long as the spot is at or behind the ball carriers forward progress.
SNAPS- Snaps FROM CENTER – There are NO snaps from Center- the QB will line 3 yards behind the line of scrimmage with the ball. PLAY will begin on HIKE!!!
QUARTERBACK- Quarterback cannot Run, but only to scramble- he may not run past the line of scrimmage. Result in QB running passed in the line of scrimmage will result in a five (5) yard penalty and loss of down.
Handoff and laterals- Handoffs and laterals are permitted but cannot result in a Passing play. Only Quarterback can throw the ball from Snap. Running backs may not be used in a pitch play resulting in a pass.
BALL PLACEMENT- The team which is receiving the ball at the start of the game or after any touchdown will start the ball at the equivalent to the 7 YARD LINE. There will be NO KICKOFFS to start play.
PUNTING- There is No Punting!!! If a team decides not to GO For It on fourth down then the ball shall be placed at the other teams 7 yard line..
PLAYERS
AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GAME EACH TEAM MUST DESIGNATE ITS CAPTAIN. Captains act as sole representatives of their team in all communications with the officials, no other players may question the officials.
OVERTIME
If both teams are tied after regulation the game will go into overtime. The format will follow the High-School/College system of each team getting 4 downs to score from the 10 Yard Line. Both teams get equal chances to score.
SCORING
Touchdowns = 6 points
EXTRA POINTS
Running/ Passing from the 3 Yard Line = 1 point
Running/ Passing from the 10 Yard Line = 2 points
SAFETY- There will be 2 points awarded for a safety and the offensive team will lose possession.
Defensive Penalties
Offside –
A defender will be considered offside when he breaks the neutral zone prior to the snap, even if there is no contact made with the offense. The offense has the right to accept or decline an offside penalty.
Roughing the Passer –
Roughing the passer is when the defender makes contact with the Quarterback in a manner that is aggressive or that is not deemed an attempt to go after the flag belt. This includes when a defender tries to deflect the pass and makes contact with the quarterback’s arm or hand. Penalty- 5 yards and automatic 1st down.
Defensive Holding –
Defensive holding is when a defender grabs the ball carrier and impedes his forward progress. This includes when the defender is attempting to pull a flag and misses and grabs the ball carriers shorts or shirt. 5 yard penalty and automatic 1st down.
PASS INTERFERENCE -
Defensive pass interference will result in an automatic 1st down and 15 yard penalty from line of scrimmage. Offensive pass interference will result in a loss of down and 15 yard Penalty from line of scrimmage. Or half the distance to the Goal.
FIGHTING AND UNSPORTSMANLIKE CONDUCT
UNSPORTSMANLIKE CONDUCT - Fighting and unsportsmanlike conduct will not be tolerated. THROWING ROCKS IS PROHIBITED. Verbal abuse also will not be tolerated. Such abuse when deemed appropriate will be grounds for game ejection. Penalty: 10 yards and automatic 1st down
Offensive Penalties
NOT ENOUGH MEN ON THE LINE –The offense is required to have at least two (2) men on the line of scrimmage. If the offense fails to place 2 men on the line of scrimmage a penalty will be called. 5 yards and replay the down. Linemen must identify themselves that they are linemen. On each down, both linemen are to raise both hands, signalling to the referees of the positions, before the play is set.
FLAG GUARDING – Flag guarding is defined as any attempt by the ball carrier to shield his flags from being pulled. This includes but is not limited to, swinging free hand, stiff arming, holding flags with free hand, lowering shoulder, and moving flags with ball. 5 yard penalty and loss of down (unless a first down is achieved after the penalty has been marked off).
DIVING – A player may dive, but may NOT jump while carrying the ball. Jumping while carrying the ball will be a 5 yard penalty and loss of down. You can dive into the endzone.
ALL RULES NOT STATED WILL BE DECIDED BY THE BOARD MEMBERS OR THE COMMISION.
ALL ISSUES THAT AFFECT A COACH’S TEAM DIRECTLY WILL BE DECIDED BY THE OTHER COACHES AND COMMISSIONER OR PANEL.
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| Anthony Acho
January 19, 2010
4:15:32 PM
Entry #: 3376010
| -ok jerseys are white and black. pretty sure its 30 a person if you dont wanna pay ur gay buts cool. thank lancey for the jerseys
-for the rental cars with avis, someone has to be atleast 26 or 25 but im gonna go with 26 to be safe to rent a car. and im pretty sure one person can rent a car. so if there are 2 cars you need two people atleast 26 with a valid drivers license and a credit card
me sean and marvin are arriving friday morning at 11:24am flight # 2283
leaving monday morning at 8:55 am flight #2248
pretty sure most guys have the same flight
what are we doing about transportation to the hotel when we arrive. whos gonna rend the cars?
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| Anthony Toma
January 19, 2010
4:24:14 PM
Entry #: 3376024
| I will work out all the details once everyone responds. Thanks for the input AA! Who is Marvin?
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| WESTSIDETONY
January 19, 2010
4:33:17 PM
Entry #: 3376040
| I think everyone is on the same flight...I can put the cars in my name since im the oldest one now(damn how did that happen), as far as the rooms we can split it when we all get there, and I dont think bob is coming so im sure there wont be to much damage done, jersey are black and white..i think lance got one black and one white for everyone, so everyone owes him like 30, I think the only question will be getting from the airport to our rooms, If we can rent a couple cars there it will be great..
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| Mark_H
January 19, 2010
4:33:38 PM
Entry #: 3376041
| I'm on the same flights as Anthony.
Along with some of the horrible rules, it states 12 on a team. Looks like we might be overloaded.
never played a sport before with two 20-minute "quarters"
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| WESTSIDETONY
January 19, 2010
4:36:16 PM
Entry #: 3376044
| At just a question on the Rooms, I thought they were paying for our rooms, for the weekend?
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| Mark_H
January 19, 2010
4:37:50 PM
Entry #: 3376045
| Also, spoke to a relative in Cali...he lives close to the YMCA where the games are being played. Word on the street is they have been doing A LOT of practicing.
I have a feeling that slim to none of these guys we'll be playing would be able to hang in the CFL.
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| Anthony Toma
January 19, 2010
4:39:28 PM
Entry #: 3376047
| The rules do suck yes! As far as the 12 man roster we had that waived. we are good up to 14
Tony They are waiving the cost of entry and kicking in $750.00 towards our rooms and car.
So anything above that we have to pay out of pocket.
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| Anthony Toma
January 19, 2010
4:42:51 PM
Entry #: 3376052
| Well we need to get together and come up with some plays that will work within the bullshit rules. I'll be home Thursday for a week.
Can everyone get together at Shenandoah one night to run through O and D?
How does Tuesday night the 26th work for everyone?
Anthony can you ask if there are any leagues going on in the gym that day?
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| Samona
January 19, 2010
5:03:26 PM
Entry #: 3376077
| I booked for myself, chris sesi and dylan. We are on the same flight as everyone else...2283 to san diego, 2248 coming home. The only person i havent made shirts for is mark...just need a name and number for your shirts and ill get that done.
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| Mark_H
January 19, 2010
5:08:01 PM
Entry #: 3376081
| Tuesday night is good for me (i'll be out of town this weekend and back on Sunday night).
name: Hajjar
number: 22
Thanks
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| 4timeChamp
January 19, 2010
10:16:11 PM
Entry #: 3376277
| Test
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| 4timeChamp
January 19, 2010
11:05:55 PM
Entry #: 3376311
| Hi Guys,
This is Tim Abbo.
I want to thank everyone that is coming down to this tourney along with Anthony and Nathen for helping me getting you guys down here.
I currently live in SD and am very sick of all these Cali guys thinking they are the best Chaldean athletes in the world.
I am looking very forward to you guys coming down here and us showing these guys that our organized Detroit league and skilled players can shut theyre tourney down.
It is a very fun tournement with a lot of good talent down here.
We are aloud 14 spots on the roster.
Ya the rules Suck, but i do have writing from them that WHEN we beat them at theyre own rules that we can change the rules for next year and years to come.
I did get them to kickin $750 to help out with hotel and car accomidations.
They are also waiving the $500 entry fee that all of the other teams have to pay which covers the day of event, field, refs, food and drinks.
Please keep in mind that this is a charity event with all additional proceeds going to St Peters church which is our church down here.
With all that said,
Anthony said it correct " We have a job To Do "
So lets WIN this Mother!!!
Please get me an XL shirt with #68 on it.
If anyone needs anything from me or has any questions that need to be answered.
Please let me know
Thanks,
Tim Abbo
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| Samona
January 20, 2010
8:56:15 AM
Entry #: 3376440
| Anthony gave me the info for your shirt so everyone is good to go as far as team shirts. can't wait!
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| Anthony Acho
January 20, 2010
12:35:00 PM
Entry #: 3376593
| i can get hotel rooms really cheap so lemme know asap the hotel information and i will make sure we get enough rooms for the cheapest price.
tony-you cant rent two cars in your name so unless there are two different bodys of eastside tony and westside tony that wont work lol.
A.T- tuesdays me sean dylan have bowling but if there is no other day to meet, we can skip. as for the gym i dont think its available but i can check what day is. also lemme know about the hotel cause i can get discounts.
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| 4timeChamp
January 20, 2010
1:46:47 PM
Entry #: 3376647
| Samona,
are the jerseys already made? i found out last night that there is already a BLACK Team. Is it too late to switch to another color or maybe a white jersey with black writing.
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| 4timeChamp
January 20, 2010
1:49:59 PM
Entry #: 3376653
| Also Guys, im available if anyone needs rides too and from the airport.
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| Samona
January 20, 2010
2:16:44 PM
Entry #: 3376670
| the jerseys are already made, but we have two though, one white and one black
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| Sean Mattia
January 20, 2010
2:53:49 PM
Entry #: 3376694
| Hey guys sorry for replying so late.
I will let everyone know the price of cars and nate i will give you a call tomorrow to see if it will work. how many cars are we going to be renting? If it's 3, we need 3 guys with major credit cards and they must be 25 and older. I am also on the same flight with anthony acho and everyone else.
Sean
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| 4timeChamp
January 20, 2010
4:19:20 PM
Entry #: 3376764
| Great, White it is!
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| Anthony Acho
January 20, 2010
4:31:42 PM
Entry #: 3376784
| Doah is not available any day of the week after 6pm.
thursday its available untill 730
saturday its available after 9
also, let me know the hotel and how many rooms i can probably get it cheaper then they are now
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| Anthony Acho
January 20, 2010
4:45:20 PM
Entry #: 3376800
| There will be a team practice this saturday the 23rd at shanandoah in the gym.
Everyone must be there! Nate bring a ball. if you cant make it, find a way too!
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| Mark_H
January 20, 2010
10:04:30 PM
Entry #: 3377006
| Unortunatley, I'll be out of own on sat., ill have to practice raising my hand before the play on my own(rules say: linemen have to raise thier hands before each plY to how that they are inneligable)
as for the car rentals, I can put one in my name.
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| Samona
January 21, 2010
2:49:32 PM
Entry #: 3377427
| the practice at shenandoah is scheduled for 12 noontime
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| Derek D
January 21, 2010
6:05:42 PM
Entry #: 3377550
| a few things:
i wish i could make it out there, san diego is the best city ever, but work is keeping me. make a run downtown to the ivy or stingarees, but pass on tjtrust me. nate, tony or ocho if you need any contacts down there for anything, you know how to reach me.
i know this team will represent the cfl well under the leadership of nate dogg and tony west 'via the east' side tony. the rules are complete arrrrah, but our cousins in sd do things their own way you'll figure this out soon enough. timmy abbo will fill in the blanks.
unfortunately, shenandoah is booked every saturday for the next 10 weeks 9am to 7pm you will need to find an alternate place to practice. with bob not being there, you should have no excuse waking up early and getting to the field for practice.
you 14 represent the 60 here. have fun but take them seriously. it is a church sponsored event-so try to keep the vulgarity down as much as possible. put it to 'em and show them what the cfl is made of shuck.
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| WESTSIDETONY
January 22, 2010
8:23:39 AM
Entry #: 3377864
| Responsibilities for SD
Lance, your in charge of all the finances, debits/credits, I expect detailoed expenses reports by monday,
Chewy/Diddy, your in charge of finding the hot parties, reserving us a booth, and making sure we are VIP..
Ocho/mattia, your in charge of picking up the girls, ill take the gernades and blockers..
Animal/hajjar, your in charge of finding the restaurants where we can eat and also having pizza, popeyes, or taco bell at 3 in the morning ready for everyone..
Nate and Sesi...just shave so we are not held up at security for to long..
fadi..leave your guns at home
I think thats all for now....One week to go cant wait
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| Anthony Acho
January 22, 2010
11:41:03 AM
Entry #: 3377978
| its kinda annoying when noone responds! i am trying to book rooms. do you guys want to stay downtown or close to the field. downtown is 15 min away. i think we should stay downtown. it would be more fun and the games are only on sunday anyways. hurry up and text me what you ugys want to do. 248-739-2724
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| Anthony Acho
January 22, 2010
2:21:56 PM
Entry #: 3378108
| Alright schuck, were all set. we are staying at the marriot marina downtown. 2 blocks away from the bars and 20 min away from the field. the hotels and cars are all set see you in cali!
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| WESTSIDETONY
January 22, 2010
11:33:03 PM
Entry #: 3378439
| Timmy abbo...call me 248 930-0916
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| Nate Dogg
February 2, 2010
12:14:29 PM
Entry #: 3384495
| Congrats to team camel on bringing home the championship from San Diego!!!!
We proved we were the better team on every play, I can’t think of a single player or even play in the game that we didn’t go 100%. We dominated those games and everyone at that field, player, parent, cousin, sister, brother, and even the referees knew that team camel is the real deal. The hype and the camaraderie we had as a team all weekend really made this trip enjoyable for me. We did everything together as a team or even as a family went out, strategized, played hard and won together. They really had no chance!!!
Acho great games baby, I think you made every play out there you needed to, especially locking up that #2 from black in the champ game. Most catches for the day for a reason.
Jordan you’ve always been the showstopper but you’ve added so much more to your game lately that has made you so much better. I think you had like 8 sacks, 4 safeties, 3-4 touchdowns, and a partridge in a pear tree. You needed to step it up and you really did.
Fadi great blocking all day brother. That one sweep right where you literally laid out 3 players, 2 fans, and I think a few chairs was sick….sick!!!!! No one touched me all day in that tourney.
Dylan you are an animal for real. You know you are a sick player when a dad has to come out on the field to yell at you to stop knocking all the player down. You might as well open up an IHOP with all those pancakes you lay on the field.
Cris how fast are you really?! Having you in the backfield running, blocking, play action, flaring and running routes your were the most dynamic player we had this weekend. We needed you to mix it up and keep their D guessing all day on what we were going to do.
Tony can you say tippy toes? That catch you had in the endzone on 4th down to put us 3 scores ahead was unreal. You made big play on O and more importantly called the best D possible. No one out there could move the ball on us all day, good shit calling that D.
Mark way to come out on the field and give it 100% every play. You’re the definition of a team player and that goes a long way. You’re a very under-rated player but that’s good for team yellow.
Chewy way to come out there and be the beast rusher that we all know you are. Great pressure on the qb, especially when we sent you up the middle and you had to go through 2 sometimes 3 guys. Defense is all about the Dline pressure and you delivered.
Lance great plays on D out there. You know where you need to be out there and makes all the difference. Big bat down on 4th down in the endzone, they score there and it’s a different ball game.
Danny you played that middle linebacker position like the veteran that you are. Got a very big pick for us that sealed that deal for us.
Tim abbo way to make plays when your number was called. The best thing you did for us was insist on a full practice. With all the rule changes they have out there we wouldn’t have been as successful without you.
Shaun way to have a broken ankle!!!!!! Im glad you still came and were involved, way to say part of the team.
Marv and Dino I appreciate you coming out and supporting the team like you guys did. You guys are officially part of team camel. Marv next time I want a sac out of you or you’re doing ten push ups. SHE… TALKS… TOO MUCH! LMAO
Nate all I have to say about you is C’mon buddy. LMAO I’ve been laughing about that one since it happened.
Doing great things result in more great things…. Thanks to the men that started the CFL 30 years ago to give us what we have today.
For those of you that don’t already know you can go to wilsonsarkisphotography.com/main to view the photos from this weekend. Click on imagequix and type in your email and a password.
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