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TOPIC: Chara/Pacioretty |
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| Chosen 1
March 9, 2011
2:58:26 PM
Entry #: 3671715
| I figured I'd wait until today to comment on last night's incident, as last night I was so pissed off after that display of attempted career-ending(he may have suceeded) bullshit that I wasn't thinking straight and wouldn't have been very rational with my posts! First off, as eveyone knows, I'm a Habs fan, so naturally I'm gonna get a little more upset when I see one of my players go down than I would those on another team! However, I would've been just as upset if a Habs player had done that to anybody! If the NHL is really serious about cracking down on headshots, then make an example of that big ape, suspend him for the rest of the season, at least! Everybody who saw that could plainly see that Chara intentionally drove Pacioretty, especially his head, in the stantion on the glass! Hell, he even took his arm and elbow and made sure that his head went into the stantion! I say that if Max-Pac's career is over, Chara's should be as well! In other words, if you succeed in ending someone's career on a play that was an outright intent to injury(or worse), then that player should never play another game, either! There is some history between the two....Pacioretty shoved Chara after scoring an OT winner earlier this year, but only after taking a two-hander from Chara prior to that! There is no excuse for trying to end someone's career, especially of a player that isn't considered the slightest bit dirty! I wouldn't want to see this happen to anybody, but if it absolutely had to, save this for guys like Cooke and Avery! Guys that at least would somewhat deserve it! Guys that would do the same to you in a heartbeat! I also say that whatever suspension Chara gets should be doubled, for not only the hit, but for lying through his teeth in his post-game comments! I realize my comments will bring the Hab-haters out of the woodwork, saying how the hit wasn't so bad and how all Habs players deserve shit like that! I don't care who you cheer for or who you like or don't like....what Chara did was inexcusable!
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| reider
March 9, 2011
7:36:10 PM
Entry #: 3671971
| the league said it is a hockey play no suspension they set the paramiters for suspensions.its a tough fast game played on the edge unfortunately players will get hurt.chara might have tried to intefere with patch.i will give him the benefit of the doubt when he said he didnt tried to drive him into the stanchion to intentionly hurt him.it is hockey so anything can happen in the heat of the moment.save a hit like that for avery or cook thats a little harsh nobody deserves to seriously hurt or crippled out there,hoping for a quick recovery.
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| reider
March 9, 2011
7:43:57 PM
Entry #: 3671977
| kotsoplus ended van ryns career with a hit from behind.so do that mean you think kotsoplus should not be playing.even murders and child molesters get a second chance why shouldnt a hockey player with no history of violence be banned for life.maybe we should use a sponge puck to or make the goal posts rubber or some kind of material that will give way when someone bumps it.people are over reacting.
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March 9, 2011
8:16:56 PM
Entry #: 3672002
| i have seen the replay a little while ago, i agree with c1,should be suspended,could be ending someone's career??
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March 9, 2011
8:22:38 PM
Entry #: 3672007
| I give Chara the benefit of NOTHING! He knew exactly what he was doing when he rammed Paxioretty's head into that glass stantion! Unless he's the dumbest person on the planet, he knew that nothing good can come from a hit like that! Van Ryn turned at the last second as Kostopoulos was ready to throw the hit! At least he got SOMETHING out of it(4 games)! Like I said, he even made sure that it was Pacioretty's head thast took the brunt of the force! All we've been hearing for the past few years is head shots this, head shots that! The league had a chance to make something positive out of this....one of the dirtiest cheap shots of all-time! They dropped the ball like it's never been dropped before! I have only one word for Mr Chara....KHARMA!
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March 9, 2011
8:52:34 PM
Entry #: 3672027
| karma's a bitch they say,so the power's that be at the head of NHL should look out
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March 9, 2011
9:12:22 PM
Entry #: 3672040
| reider, murderers and child molesters should not get a second chance, either!
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March 9, 2011
10:05:26 PM
Entry #: 3672090
| The way I worded my last post, it looks like I included reider among those who don't deserve a second chance. It didn't mean it the way it appears. I only printed reider's name before stating my message.
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March 10, 2011
6:36:13 AM
Entry #: 3672254
| Pacioretty himself said it best when he said that if Chara would just admit that he made a mistake and say he's sorry, he'd forgive him! I got a kick out of Caps coach Bruce Boudreau's and Flames coach Brent Sutter's comments, as each said there was nothing wrong with the hit! So, of coarse, Boudreau would feel the exact same way if Chara had done that to Ovechkin or Semen, right? And, of coarse, Sutter would have no problem with the hit if Chara had done that to Iginla, either! I think their thought process may be just a wee bit different!
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| reider
March 10, 2011
1:20:32 PM
Entry #: 3672551
| i agree no second chanec for murders and child molesters lock them up throw away the key.but hockey is a game the rules are set and the league dishes out the punishment thats it.they say it wasnt a suspendable play thats how it goes.people are saying chara knew the glass was there he knew what he was doing.pacoriety also knew the glass was there and he knew it was chara who he has a running fued with the last month or so.why didnt he just let up and not let chara run him into the glass but he didnt he thought he could gey by him and score another goal so he could gloat about a 5-0 score if he did score.but chara wouldnt let him he tok the interferenc penalty instead.now you are starting to sound like the typical hab fans i know.its alright to see people get hit and hurt as long as its not our players.suck it up if you dont like it like i said before dont watch.here is a comment i had said to me by a hab fan when kotsoplus ended van ryns career.he was only a bag of dirt leaf no big lost.so when the shoe is on the other foot they cant take it.TYPICAL.
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March 10, 2011
3:35:27 PM
Entry #: 3672717
| I never said that! This is ME you're talking to! reider, you should be a painter! You'd be an excellent one, because that's one big brush you use! You should be able to go outside of a player without having to worry about some big ape trying to end your career the way Chara did! So, the game is 4-0, are you just supposed to let up? Max-Pac shoved Chara after scoring the OT winner, but only after taking a vicious two-hander from the big dunce the previous game! Funny how THAT'S never mentioned! Sorry man, you are not going to convince me of anything other than the fact that Chara had malicious intent when he rammed(yes, Rammed!) Pacioretty into the glass stanchion! I have watched the replay many times from different angles, and it looks just as intentional every time! I thought players could get suspended for intent to injure!? Could someone please define the phrase "intent to injure"? What did Chara think was going to happen when he rammed someone at almost full skating speed into a glass stanchion, the guy is gonna get up smiling? reider, if a Habs player did this to anyone, you'd be calling for the player's immediate banishment from the game for about 5 years! Hell, I remember that game a couple years ago when Van Ryn got hurt, the Habs got a little rough that game and you sounded like you wanted them put in front of a firing squad! You called ALL of them "dirt bags"! There wasn't one incident during that game that even slightly compares to what Chara did! Though, according to you, "Saku's mystery knee" was pretty vicious! So Chara didn't get suspended and the league says the hit wasn't dirty! Jeez, did it ever occur to you the league could be WRONG? That they can make a MISTAKE! They DID make a mistake, but not as big as the one Chara made! This is the way I feel, and I'm not gonna change my mind! I don't care what you say, you can call me a "typical Habs fan" or whatever the hell you like! At least I stick up for my players! Yes, I do take things a little more serious when one of the players on my team is involved, but that's natural! At least I'm not some half-ass fan! You wanna know a really good way to know if Chara is telling the truth in this incident? Give him a lie detector test! Not only here, but in every dirty play where there is a question of whether there was intent!
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March 10, 2011
3:41:07 PM
Entry #: 3672728
| Whether or not you're a Habs fan, you gotta love the way the Habs are taking the high road in all of this! They have said they will respect the league's decision, and are just generally being the first-class and classy organization they've always been throughout this whole ordeal! I could just hear Whiney Ruff if someone did that to one of his Sabres! He'd be so beside himself he'd need a padded room!
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March 10, 2011
3:48:11 PM
Entry #: 3672737
| If it was me and there was no intent to injure on my part, I'd take the lie detector test in a heartbeat! That way, there would be absolutely no lingering doubt! Because, believe me, even though Chara didn't get suspended, there is enough lingering doubt around the league to fill the Grand Canyon!
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| reider
March 10, 2011
4:34:17 PM
Entry #: 3672778
| now you have really gone over the edge lie detector test are you kidding its a game man.maybe they can put it next to the phone for video review and have an executive from the quebec provincial court administer it then lock them up if they fail.heck maybe check every guy before they go on the ice before every game.maybe you might get enough players to pass to have a good game of 45's.all the bunch from quebec are a bunch of hypocrits.all right when everything is going there way.they had big ferguson bouchard robinson nilan roberge larocque going around hurting people suck it up you are starting to sound like a big crybaby.or a typical hab fan.sure your not part frog.
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| reider
March 10, 2011
4:40:31 PM
Entry #: 3672786
| kharma who on the habs is going to pay chara back.put ther whole 1st line into one and they are still not as big as him.you are no better than chara if you are calling for someone to injure him in return.now thats a classless hab fan talking.i didnt think you were like that.as for ruff or any coach player or any part of an organization they are going to stick up for one another.thats the nature of the beast.
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March 10, 2011
4:48:48 PM
Entry #: 3672801
| reider, get some help! Your hatred of Quebec and the Habs is definetaly not healthy! Bonehead, I don't mean they should administer the test in the penalty box during the game on every play! If you read what I said with your eyes open, you would've seen where I said the test would be done in cases such as this, where there is question of intent on a very vicious play, especially ones that result in severe injuries! The test would be done by the league in the days following the incident in the league offices! Are you saying that Quebec politicians are crooked? NEWS FLASH....ALL politicians are crooked, from the leaders of the country to the lowest level politician in the smallest villages! Those former Habs players you mentioned never did anything as remotely dirty as what Chara did! No reider, I'm not part "frog", but it's painfully obvious that you're a FULL Newfie!
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March 10, 2011
4:59:42 PM
Entry #: 3672812
| Nature of the beast? You are one hypocritical son of a bitch! When Ruff or anybody else does it, it's "sticking up for their players"! I've seen cases where the Habs have stuck up for their players, and you've calleed them whiners and complainers! reider, the next time you go out for dinner, order two meals....one for each face!
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March 10, 2011
5:06:28 PM
Entry #: 3672819
| Did I say someone on the Habs is gonna get him? Did I say ANYONE is gonna get him? Once again, that's you reider, looking for a story where there is none! If something happens to him during a game, such as a seriuos injury, I guess you could say that's Kharma biting the big goof in the ass! If someone on the Habs DOES do something to injure him, I will put the blame squarely on the shoulders of the league for doing nothing!
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March 10, 2011
7:09:52 PM
Entry #: 3672939
| You didn't think "I was like that"? Oh reider, there's alot about me that you as well as others don't know! I will tell you that I'm very patient, and I have an EXTREMELY long memory! And while I may forgive....I NEVER forget!
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| hockey fan
March 10, 2011
7:22:13 PM
Entry #: 3672950
| i like the lie detector idea. kind of remove all doubt. i'm not a montreal fan but that was a discusting display by chara. my view is shared by many of my friends alot of which are not montreal fans either. some of them have no use for the canadiens but agree that chara should be suspended for a long time.
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| reider
March 10, 2011
8:20:49 PM
Entry #: 3672996
| i will take a quote from some guy who used it on here last week.opinions are like ass holes everybody has one.
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| reider
March 10, 2011
8:26:36 PM
Entry #: 3673003
| if you live in quebec long enough you will become a whiner just like the rest of them.your right i dont like quebec and i dont give a rats ass about anyones opinion of me.but bonehead is a very good description for me.i must go cry now you hurt my feeling.
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March 10, 2011
10:03:31 PM
Entry #: 3673092
| I shouldn't insult "boneheads" like that! I have received alot of angry calls from boneheads, telling me not to lump them in the same group as a two-brain cell, Newfie Hab-hater! My appologies to boneheads everywhere!
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| reider
March 10, 2011
11:56:40 PM
Entry #: 3673188
| i am devestated.iam going to cry mysel to sleep tonight.wait i have been doing that since brett hull stole our cup.
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March 11, 2011
12:02:18 AM
Entry #: 3673199
| Like the incident on Tuesday, the league dropped the ball on that goal as well! When you think of it, both of our teams have been shafted a few times over the years! But we'll shown 'em this year....we'll meet in the conference finals! That way, one of us will play for the Cup!
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| Habs fan
March 11, 2011
6:32:20 PM
Entry #: 3673906
| I have a great idea regarding the lie-detector. Instead of the test being done by the courts or politicians, let's get the guy from the Habs that goes in the other team's dressing room in the middle of the night measuring hockey sticks to conduct it.
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