Congratulations to you sir for crushing one over the fence tonight. However, due to stupid rules,we can only award you a walk. Can we change this rule next year?
Greg E
August 9, 2012 6:23:43 PM
Entry #: 3960149
Yup, I need the opportunity to impress all the ladies that I can hit it out at Crosby. It's not fair when the two guys who bat before me hit it out on fly outs.
Don't want a single? Hit a double.
Jim_the_Ump
August 9, 2012 6:47:16 PM
Entry #: 3960159
I’m in favor of changing the rule also... changing it *back* to what it should be. AN OUT!
Woodsucks
August 10, 2012 12:13:53 AM
Entry #: 3960261
An OUT for hitting the ball over the fence...... That is like getting pay decrease for your promotion.
gregosha
August 10, 2012 10:31:25 AM
Entry #: 3960387
How about making the home run a sac fly? If no one is on base you are out. That way if a runner is on third your team doesn't get penalized for a good hit.
injury prone
August 10, 2012 11:53:39 AM
Entry #: 3960423
A sac fly is a good idea, or a strike. I do think an out is a bit harsh. Many of the home run balls at Crosby would be outs in any other park. There is absolutely no strategy needed to hit 10 home runs in a game, half of them for singles. I also believe that weaker teams are rewarded when playing at Crosby. If everyone looked at their own team and counted their Miliken home run hitters versus their Crosby home run hitters, I bet they would be surprised at the numbers.
Ethos71
August 12, 2012 11:41:58 PM
Entry #: 3961365
A penalty for a HR? That is gross and dowright ugly. Some people should take a raincheck before posting to this forum. The rule is perfect, move on.
Greg E
August 13, 2012 6:57:37 PM
Entry #: 3961857
Another interesting solution would be to have the batters at-bat to be over. All runners stay where they are, no one is punished, yet it deters everyone from just getting up there and smoking the ball out.
Kind of the best of both options.
Purelife
August 19, 2012 6:04:23 PM
Entry #: 3964559
The whole thing is dumb, a long ball regardless of the park should be rewarded.
Gimme
August 21, 2012 10:14:03 AM
Entry #: 3965344
HR Leader said: “Congratulations to you sir for crushing one over the fence tonight. However, due to stupid rules, we can only award you a walk.”
This should actually read: “Congratulations to you sir for crushing one over the fence tonight. However, due to your own stupidity and inability to comprehend the rules in place, and in part due to your selfishness and one-dimensional ability, we can only award you a walk. Be thankful that we don’t play by most other rule sets and call you out, and be happy with being awarded a walk.”
Matches
August 22, 2012 11:43:17 AM
Entry #: 3965882
A home run is a home run is a home run, simple.
Ethos71
August 23, 2012 6:17:11 PM
Entry #: 3966642
The +2 HR rule is great, no changes needed.
LEFT-RIGHT-OUT
August 24, 2012 1:37:52 PM
Entry #: 3966963
This topic is getting old. The only way that there will be any change to the +2 home run rule is to attend the AGM and let your vote do your talking.
All the points made are somewhat sensible, depending on your perspective.
From where I stand, after many discussions with pitchers, hitters, umps and the home run, only, guy the fairest solution is to count the +2 home run as a foul ball.
If it's your first or second strike, try again, you didn't or shouldn't have tried to hit it out...it's designed to be a deterent...just like you didn't try to hit it foul, whether it goes to the back stop or the one that goes enough distance to be a home run but just goes foul due to a gust of wind, it's still a foul and you didn't try to do that...did you?
In essence IF YOU CAN'T KEEP IT IN PLAY, you deserve to be counted out...see you at the AGM.
Moulton
August 29, 2012 10:58:39 AM
Entry #: 3969352
The current rule has been working for numerous years. No need to change it.
BetterD
August 29, 2012 11:27:24 AM
Entry #: 3969370
The +2 home run rule is great I think. Hitting a hr after that should be as follows. Hit one out at Milliken you are awarded a walk but hitting one out at Crosby should be called an out. It's a short fence and what would be a pop fly at miliken is a homerun at Crosby. The fence hasnt got any taller.
Barnstormer
August 30, 2012 4:26:20 PM
Entry #: 3970054
Can we have a different rule depending on if its Milliken or Crosby?
At Milliken, I very rarely even see the +2 HR rule come into effect. Anyone who puts it out there deserves at least a walk, so I don't see any issue with the current rule.
At Crosby, however, it should be an OUT after +2. At the very least, as was previously suggested, it should be a strike. Make hitters use their skill sets and keep the fielders from nodding off while they watch half a dozen straight lazy fly balls sail over the fence - anyone who can hit it out of the park can surely hit a hard line drive somewhere too.
Mr. September
September 1, 2012 10:30:26 PM
Entry #: 3970831
We can't have different rules for different parks... Every team does not play equal games at the two parks....Who came up w/ this stupid rule? Only 10% of the league constintally hits long balls.
L3Rwtf
September 4, 2012 9:12:50 AM
Entry #: 3971699
The rule is perfect, do not change.
Sloppy Seconds
September 4, 2012 10:54:17 AM
Entry #: 3971748
An out or a strike for a homerun is a joke.
It's not the homerun hitters fault he's stuck playing at short parks like Crosby.
You force them to change their swing to bring them down to your level. Who are you to change the game? What gives you the right? The +2 rule also forces people to change their swings to avoid the dreaded "Solo Shot".
Rules like this are designed and implemented by people who can't compete. It's the equivalant of forcing Tiger Woods to play left handed.
On the radio station I listen to (97.7) they refer to this as "World Pussification". If someone better than you at something, let's write a rule to bring them down to your level. You wouldn't want to inadvertantly hurt someone's feelings by hitting a bunch of homeruns.
If some team hits 30 homeruns and your team hits none, suck it up and single them to death.
Down with any home run rule!!!!
Or switch to my favortie stupid homerun rule which is force any player who hits a home run to hit from the opposite side of the plate!!!
Dave T 44 Kelsey's
C C & Coke
September 5, 2012 1:15:09 PM
Entry #: 3972299
NO changes to the current rule is my vote
Anchor
September 9, 2012 7:29:12 PM
Entry #: 3974448
Agreed, no changes to the current rule for next season.
BetterD
September 10, 2012 8:25:46 AM
Entry #: 3974699
Re: sloppy seconds I don't know what you drank or smoked before typing that message but for you to think changing a rule means it changes guys swings clearly your out to lunch. Being a homerun hitter myself and a competitive ball player no matter what rule is in place I won't change my swing. You can half swing and hit a hr at Crosby. Rules aside, some of the homeruns are a joke that go out at Crosby it's totally a different game then at miliken. Still think you should have different rules for each diamond but the +2 rule is fine for now.
Barnstormer
September 10, 2012 11:10:44 AM
Entry #: 3974796
While I love the world pussification reference, I must sincerely disagree that somebody being able to hit a home run at Crosby makes them "better" at anything than anybody else, unless hitting 200 foot fly balls became a "skill" overnight and I missed the memo.
Most of the good ballplayers I know in this league - many of whom can hit the ball out of Crosby with a flick of their wrists - would support any rule that makes the game better and more exciting, even if they get to puff their chests out and brag to their wives and children a little less about all the massive dingers they hit at Crosby.
Rev Hero
September 11, 2012 11:11:15 AM
Entry #: 3975458
the rule is good........please do not change
CubsFan
September 13, 2012 10:29:18 AM
Entry #: 3976503
Good rule, no changes required
Adam
September 14, 2012 6:02:12 PM
Entry #: 3977239
Agreed..... HR rule is great.
Griffer
September 16, 2012 9:26:42 AM
Entry #: 3977717
The plus 2 dinger rule that equals a single is the best.
Korky
September 19, 2012 11:29:22 AM
Entry #: 3979721
the rule works and is great
Siddque
September 27, 2012 8:25:47 PM
Entry #: 3985279
My vote is to keep it the same
fazoolie
September 29, 2012 7:05:30 PM
Entry #: 3986142
Keep the same rule please.
Ethos71
October 4, 2012 5:17:31 PM
Entry #: 3989088
Any chance we are going to change the count to 1-1 during next year? In my opinion I think it is better overall making it a little more challenging and it speeds the game up.
Wamsutta
October 5, 2012 6:51:30 AM
Entry #: 3989271
Now here's something to think about ... Everyone starting with a 1-1 count would not help most pitchers but would move the game along faster for sure.
jamie b
October 5, 2012 1:52:54 PM
Entry #: 3989427
Since when is the length of the game a problem? If anything, there are more times where we finish early than complain the games are dragging on. Following your line of reasoning, why don't we just do what some leagues do and walk directly to the dugout if you hit a dinger? That'll really speed things up. I went all year without hitting one (just to see what it would feel like) so I know when I do next year it'll feel all the sweeter. I hope it's against your team so I can take my time rounding the bases.
Bowen #19
October 5, 2012 2:40:55 PM
Entry #: 3989459
MVP!!!!!
Uarms
October 5, 2012 11:13:44 PM
Entry #: 3989583
Speaking of scoring.....screw soccer. If I wanted to watch somebody struggle to score for 90 mins I’d take my Arms teammates to the bar.
jamie b
October 9, 2012 10:57:55 AM
Entry #: 3990818
That never gets old Bowen! lol
BT
October 13, 2012 1:15:22 PM
Entry #: 3992463
look and learn
injury prone
October 15, 2012 4:14:26 AM
Entry #: 3993039
Just played a tourny, and the 1-1 count was used because of the weather on Sunday. It was the first time I have played using this and it was great!!!!! It is quite a radical change in the game so I don't think we would ever go to it. However, it speeds the game up tremendously, and it keeps you on your toes in the field.
Woodsucks
October 17, 2012 6:31:14 PM
Entry #: 3995037
Maybe the count should be 0-0 to start the at bat, what a concept.
jamie b
October 17, 2012 10:55:48 PM
Entry #: 3995178
Or we could go one step further and just take all the effort out. I'm think rock-paper-scissors or a coin toss to decide the winners. We could have all 3 games done within 3 minutes. That way guys who feel the games are taking too long don't even really have to show up.
jamie b
October 18, 2012 4:01:23 PM
Entry #: 3995524
Hey Bowen #19, where'd you film that video of your swing? Do you have a batting cage in your basement? Come to think of it, that would explain your raw power and silky smooth swing!
Harry Package
October 18, 2012 9:35:39 PM
Entry #: 3995723
Solid wrists through impact and nice long finish, but he's a little too rotational with his hips and opens up too soon, #19 stays closed and drives his bitch.... just sayin'
Bowen #19
October 19, 2012 2:23:02 PM
Entry #: 3996093
Damn, I have trimmed down in that video! :)
Thanks for the praise Jamie, but I an't no MVP like yourself.
MVP, MVP, MVP, MVP!!!!!! hahahaha
Moulton
October 20, 2012 7:20:21 PM
Entry #: 3996579
The MVP for the lifetime of this league is Jeff Gayman. He did not play much this year and Kelsey's went from first to the cony. Nothing more your honor.
Tarheel
October 20, 2012 10:25:33 PM
Entry #: 3996673
Yes and the year before when they did finish first did Jeff play or was he on a sabbatical?
Moulton
October 22, 2012 6:33:37 PM
Entry #: 3998086
Name me a player that is better than Jeff Gayman?
Tarheel
October 22, 2012 6:55:18 PM
Entry #: 3998112
Jeff is a very good player I don't believe anyone disputes that but no one player can make a team! I'm sure Jeff would agree with that statement and I wonder if he might be a little creeped out by some nameless guy tooting his horn! LMAO!
Ethos71
October 25, 2012 5:18:24 AM
Entry #: 3999873
Gayman has nothing on me.....I hit 3 bombs in one game more than once...Beer league slo pitch bombs out of Crosby.
Moulton
October 27, 2012 6:09:14 PM
Entry #: 4001174
Tar baby,
Who are you to judge someone? Nobody is perfect, but Jeff is very very close to perfection on the diamond.
Tarheel
October 28, 2012 10:42:36 PM
Entry #: 4002017
Hey Moulton who is judging? Why don't you reread the post! I simply stated that no one was disputing how good he ways and also stating no one player makes a team. It's pretty hard to have a forum discussion with someone who can't even comprehend a few simple sentences in a post.
Empress Ruler
November 3, 2012 1:16:36 PM
Entry #: 4005593
No changes to this rule next year seem to be the choice of the majority.
Moulton
November 7, 2012 6:40:33 AM
Entry #: 4007828
Mr. Heel.... There's a story behind every person. There's a reason why they're the way they are. Think about that before you judge someone. Jeff is still the best the USPL has witnessed.
Ethos71
November 12, 2012 10:15:23 PM
Entry #: 4010910
Moulton...... I'm sorry I hurt your feelings when I called you stupid... I really thought you already knew. Jeff is a good player but he is not in the top 25 of the league anymore.
Tarheel
November 13, 2012 12:31:30 PM
Entry #: 4011125
Moulton, I have tried two different times now to illustrate to you that no one was judging Jeff or saying he wasn't a good player. Clearly you are an idiot so I will give up trying to explain myself. I think anyone with even a hint of an education understands what I have said!
Moulton
November 14, 2012 2:35:54 PM
Entry #: 4011698
Have another one Tar baby.
Ethos71
November 16, 2012 8:56:34 PM
Entry #: 4012960
Any chance we are going to change the count to 1-1 during next summer? In my opinion I think it is better overall making it a little more challenging and it speeds the game up.
Fureza
December 29, 2012 12:21:12 PM
Entry #: 4024428
Ever felt like you may have missed the right one waiting on the perfect pitch? We should deploy a one strike at bat policy. You start your AB with a zero/one count. This way everyone would swing early and we could move the games along faster.
Knight
January 2, 2013 8:08:42 AM
Entry #: 4024775
Wowza.... somebody's been drinking over the holidays .... This may be stupider than the double header suggestion...
Woodsucks
January 7, 2013 10:56:28 PM
Entry #: 4025815
Hey guys,
I was playing in a tourney last summer... as usual when guys start flying out or popping up, everyone on the bench starts commentating on "keeping the ball down" or "level swing". When I asked one of the guys later about his bat, he mentioned that he needed to swing more level or down next time up.
Personally my opinion on hitting line drives or keeping the ball down should be just where the bat meets the ball. If you hit the middle of the ball - line drive, if you hit bottom half - deep fly. I don't think you should be changing your swing angle from one at bat to another. Or maybe I'm wrong about that? any thoughts?
HR Leader
January 10, 2013 12:01:37 AM
Entry #: 4026382
I think that there is merit in both arguments.
For example, if your swing is level with the ground, and you hit the ball square, you will get a line drive. If you have an uppercut, but hit the ball slightly above the middle, you may get a top spin line drive that goes over the IF but dips hard. Alternatively, if you swing slightly downwards, but cut the ball and hit it in the middle or just under the middle, you can get a line drive that way too.
The most important part of getting a good hit is how clean your contact is. But on the other hand, if you swing almost completely upwards and hit the ball clean, it will still be a pop up.
Curious to see what other ppl think about it.
jamie b
January 12, 2013 10:59:15 AM
Entry #: 4026839
I'm curious to see if other people even take you guys seriously!
Fureza
January 13, 2013 8:16:51 PM
Entry #: 4027034
The outcome of the swing depends if the bat is balanced or end-loaded.
Moulton
January 15, 2013 11:40:06 PM
Entry #: 4027577
Do not use your bat to knock dirt off of your cleats. This can damage the bat and then your swing will be irrelevant.
Jack Wagon
January 17, 2013 12:12:28 AM
Entry #: 4027774
Practice to become a better hitter. Concentrate on swinging through the ball and swinging level. The more pitches you look at the better you will be able to determine which are balls and which are strikes. Most people are pull hitters (hit to left field if you are a righty or right field if you are a lefty) especially in our league...so become a good pull hitter first. Once you have down the basics, then you can work on hitting the ball to the opposite field.
Harry Package
January 18, 2013 7:32:30 PM
Entry #: 4028084
Jack, did you just really explain what a pull hitter is.... c'mon man !!
Knight
January 21, 2013 7:29:03 AM
Entry #: 4028415
Confidence is important so every time you step into the batters box, believe that you will get a good hit. It is a hitters game.
Jack Wagon
January 23, 2013 6:26:44 AM
Entry #: 4028841
Work the count. Chances are the pitcher will get lazy and lay a fat one right over the plate. That is the key to hitting.
On a side note, it is good to read that Harry is back. We need more of his insight and knowledge on this site.
BT
January 24, 2013 6:22:27 AM
Entry #: 4029126
Weight training ( beer & wings )plyometrics, sprints, are things that can be done in season and off season to enhance strength and power. Stay away from distance running if you want to be explosive. Also you need to spend as much time in the weight room as you are swinging a bat. Lifting weights will help but not make you good. You have to swing a bat a lot to gain strength.
Carp
January 28, 2013 7:55:19 PM
Entry #: 4030025
For those of you trying to a dinger out of Milliken. I have some mole advice. Never give up on something you really want. It?s difficult to wait, but more difficult to regret. Swing hard and often.
HR Leader
January 30, 2013 1:28:30 PM
Entry #: 4030374
Remember the purpose of patience at the plate is to not swing at everything that comes your way and the ball will go the fence.
tuck00
February 4, 2013 11:00:28 PM
Entry #: 4031314
Boys, the Avarice is a real nice bat. I took about 50 hacks with it last weekend in the cages and it sounds like a shotgun when you hit it. I recommend the bat to anyone else, looking forward to swinging it this season.
L3Rwtf
February 20, 2013 7:16:49 AM
Entry #: 4034010
FELLAS:.. I appreciate y'all hearing me out this morning!! I have a responsibility to tell you all this league is the best one in Ontario. The rules like the HR one is outstanding. The organization committee runs this league as smooth as butter!!
Woodsucks
March 13, 2013 10:22:11 PM
Entry #: 4039039
I've got a bat that has a couple taper dents on it, most umps don't seem to care but every once and a while I get an ump who tosses it because they say it's damaged ( in certain tournaments).There is no problem getting a ring around it as the barrel is not dented at all and I'm pretty sure Worth won't waranty it just for taper dents. Does anyone know what the deal is with this in the USPL, should it be tossed or not?
