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TOPIC: 2013 USPL Schedule |
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| Mellowing Out
October 23, 2012
1:44:42 PM
Entry #: 3998723
| Question for my fellow members:
Would you be interested in seeing a schedule that included some double-header games to alleviate having to book off 2 nights in a week? Not all games would be double-headers. Something like this below. (not sure if it will look right in this forum due to cut and paste)
Time Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday
6:30 C 1 vs 2 6:30 C 7 vs 8 6:30 M5 15 vs 16
8:00 C 2 vs 3 8:00 C 8 vs 9 8:00 M5 16 vs 17
9:30 C 3 vs 4 9:30 C 9 vs 10 9:30 M5 17 vs 18 9:30 C 1 vs 4
6:30 M5 masters 6:30 M 11 vs 12
8:00 M5 masters 8:00 M 12 vs 13
9:30 M5 5 vs 6 9:30 M 13 vs 14
8:30 M4 (Masters)
So you end up with 3 Masters games, 8 teams playing doubleheaders, 8 teams playing single games and 2 teams playing 2 single games.
This could potentially help players with other conflicts such as kids playing sports, work commitments, family/wife commitments, etc.
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| Hard Express
October 23, 2012
5:38:43 PM
Entry #: 3998919
| This is the stupidest thing I have read on this forum. This suggestion must be driven from players that live out of town. In a word NO, NO NO NO.
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| Tarheel
October 23, 2012
8:01:19 PM
Entry #: 3999013
| I am not for this either. I am happy with the current schedule format.
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| daump
October 24, 2012
12:10:07 AM
Entry #: 3999144
| I suggest you stop writing nonsense, your suggestion is just plain old dumb.
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| Knight
October 24, 2012
6:24:40 AM
Entry #: 3999217
| 100% disagree. 25 nights with the boys is better than 12 nights with the boys.
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| Gimme
October 24, 2012
8:43:10 AM
Entry #: 3999286
| You want double headers, go play in the York Region league!!
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| B. Whalen
October 24, 2012
9:14:51 AM
Entry #: 3999305
| I think this is potentially a great idea and should be given some serious thought and discussion. The way I read this and contrary to the post above, we would not be going from 25 nights a year to 12, we'd be eliminating the 2 nights a week from the schedule and replacing those weeks with double headers (in theory), so you are still having your 'guys' night out every week.
This will help out the guys who have young families or those who have other commitments. Removing the twice a week games will be easier to handle but also having a double header might prioritize baseball over other committments on any given night. For example, if I coach my son every week, that usually takes priority over USPL, I can see myself taking a few games away from coaching if I know I'll be knocking off a couple of games at a time.
I know this change won't work for everyone, it will definately help out our team who had trouble fielding teams most nights. At a minimum, a great idea that should be given some serious thought.
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| just a game
October 24, 2012
9:53:24 AM
Entry #: 3999334
| I have to agree as this would be a great idea. Too often you come out for a game and your team doesn't hit well so you get 1 or 2 at bats and play the field for 3 or 4 innings and then you are done after fighting traffic or the wife and family to be there. Rather play a doubleheader and ensure you bet at least 5 at bats and play the for 9 or 10 innings a night. This guarantees you a night out once a week. It is no fun coming out for the solo 9:30 games or leaving work early for the 6:30 and this makes more of them doubleheaders so it is worth. I know a number of people want to avoid their family but it would be nice to be able to enjoy the summer with the kids and their sports.
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| HR Leader
October 24, 2012
11:37:43 AM
Entry #: 3999411
| I played in another Markham league that played double headers and it folded, do I need to say more ?
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| Tarheel
October 24, 2012
12:55:18 PM
Entry #: 3999467
| I understand why the couple of guys on this forum like this idea. I would like it too if my team had issues fielding a team most of the year and I would try just about anything. Having said that I see no reason why the other 90% of the league should play double headers so that two maybe three teams will have an easier time fielding a team. My suggestion would be that these teams find an 'in house' answer to their attendance issues. I say this not to be antagonistic but I just don't see why we as a league would change something that clearly isn't broken. Just my two cents!
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| Mara
October 24, 2012
12:56:48 PM
Entry #: 3999468
| two games in one night = two time the probabilities for injuries
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| Gimme
October 24, 2012
1:18:02 PM
Entry #: 3999486
| "I understand why the couple of guys on this forum like this idea. I would like it too if my team had issues fielding a team most of the year..."
[cough, cough] Whelan and Cadorin [cough, cough]
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| Empress Ruler
October 24, 2012
5:42:41 PM
Entry #: 3999690
| A rule change to stop The Duchess repeat?
Like everyone else I believe this does not have any merit. My vote would be no.
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| Bud Wiser
October 24, 2012
6:45:58 PM
Entry #: 3999724
| Note to self: If I have a bad idea I should avoid writing on this forum during Stupidtober.No way to two games a night.
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| fazoolie
October 24, 2012
8:25:10 PM
Entry #: 3999770
| If our schedule is 25 games and we play 2 per night, the math does not work.
This is simply change for change sake and would only satisfy a very low minority of members.
Enough said, let's read more crap about MAS and the Arms winning it all.
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| Jets6400
October 25, 2012
1:06:41 AM
Entry #: 3999853
| What happens when a bottom feeder play a top dog?
The guppies will be eaten by the shark twice in one night, how demoralizing.
Game 1 Jakes 32-4 over Crupi.... Then how do you crank it up for game two? After three innings in game two Jakes takes a 14-1 lead, then what? " the beer is cold" talk become prevalent, so why bother? Stay the course, do not change anything regarding the schedule.
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| Ethos71
October 25, 2012
5:22:28 AM
Entry #: 3999875
| I don't want to play two games in one night.
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| Woodsucks
October 25, 2012
3:23:01 PM
Entry #: 4000165
| This is a recipe for disaster. I am totally against this .
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| CC & Coke
October 25, 2012
5:13:26 PM
Entry #: 4000234
| Another vote against double- headers.
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| ADHD
October 25, 2012
10:49:24 PM
Entry #: 4000388
| Mellow,
Don't make decisions or suggestions when you're drunk. Come on think it through.
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| Peatsum
October 26, 2012
12:51:07 AM
Entry #: 4000432
| Not cool man, no way.
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| CHRIS L
October 26, 2012
9:23:51 AM
Entry #: 4000513
| duchess voted 12-3 for no double headers. single games only
team reps forward the email from Cadorin to your teammates and get a reply. post the the results so we get a feel for what te the entire league wants.
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| Siddique
October 26, 2012
3:14:31 PM
Entry #: 4000717
| What happens when 16 teams vote against this and 2 vote for? The answer is status quo.
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| Moulton
October 27, 2012
6:10:54 PM
Entry #: 4001176
| I do not like this suggestion. Numerous points above speak to why this will not work.
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| Griffer
October 28, 2012
7:08:39 PM
Entry #: 4001859
| If we change to playing two games in one night I will stay in my other league. Totally opposed to this.
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| Gelatin
October 30, 2012
12:15:46 AM
Entry #: 4002748
| My vote is a soild no.
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| Gopher
October 30, 2012
6:54:12 AM
Entry #: 4002805
| Finally got a new password, back in the forum chats now. This suggestion may have some value for only a minority of people in the league. Why do we need to make changes to something that has worked for many years?
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| tuck00
October 31, 2012
11:46:26 PM
Entry #: 4004145
| With another kid on the way, I'm looking for any reason to get out of the house more often. My vote is also no.
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| pm3456
November 3, 2012
2:33:34 PM
Entry #: 4005613
| I hope the masters division does not apply double headers. I don't believe it would work for either league.
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| MBA89
November 4, 2012
3:21:55 PM
Entry #: 4006066
| Little by little, through patience and repeated effort, the mind will come back to normal. Then you will realize that we can't accommodate the minority of guys that would like to change for the sake of change. This league has been successful for many years without double headers. Give your head a shake mellow boy, get real.
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| Mara
November 6, 2012
7:14:41 AM
Entry #: 4007267
| You can't connect the dots looking forward you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the guys that run the league will continue to the right thing and vote this suggestion down.
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| BallsGoAway
November 9, 2012
4:55:00 PM
Entry #: 4009344
| I have three things to say regarding double headers, NO, NO and NO.
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| DeMonti
November 10, 2012
1:44:30 PM
Entry #: 4009648
| Agreed....no double headers please.
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| Cashman
November 11, 2012
10:30:18 PM
Entry #: 4010315
| I am hoping to use my magical powers to make this stupid suggestion go away. Poof...Gone!
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| Woodsucks
November 12, 2012
11:55:25 AM
Entry #: 4010520
| I hope we don’t waste our time at the AGM discussing this crap.
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| CC & Coke
November 14, 2012
8:06:38 PM
Entry #: 4011877
| Boys, stop letting the unimportant things matter to you. Some people will do their best to watch you be miserable, don't let this double header stuff get to you. The regular season of 25 nights out is awesome.
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| Rassie
November 18, 2012
7:42:16 PM
Entry #: 4013862
| I have not read this forum in many weeks, this suggestion does not make any sense to me or my teammates.
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| BT
November 19, 2012
11:54:21 PM
Entry #: 4014614
| Checked this out with my team and unanimously we decided against double headers.
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| DeMonti
November 22, 2012
9:21:43 PM
Entry #: 4015757
| Was this topic discussed last night?
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| Mara
November 23, 2012
4:07:52 PM
Entry #: 4015925
| I was told it was discussed and rejected.
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| fazoolie
November 24, 2012
12:09:00 PM
Entry #: 4016142
| That is the best news I have read all week.
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| Axe me
November 26, 2012
7:37:24 AM
Entry #: 4016922
| For the record, I would have voted against double headers. I am happy to read and hear this will not be a reality next year.
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| Knight
November 29, 2012
5:58:00 AM
Entry #: 4018065
| Can we officially not disucss this subject any more?
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| jamie b
November 29, 2012
4:01:42 PM
Entry #: 4018202
| The double header conversation is just as bad as that conny play-in game thing that Burton won't drop... oops that's me. Can anyone give me a single reason why the play-in game is a good thing? Other than the lovey dovey everyone gets a chance argument I mean.
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| Seyms
November 29, 2012
4:28:52 PM
Entry #: 4018212
| I could give you an argument for the sake of it burt, but in all honesty I wouldn't agree with it myself.
Guys play hard all year and i dont see how rewarding one good day should translate into a championship opportunity. We dont see it in any other sport professional or recreational. It also removes a team that played great for 4 months from the equation after having a bad afternoon.
On that note, i also think that all championship teams play their weekend games (or at least 3 of 4) where the beer tent and crowd is set up. Guys want to play within the atmosphere of championship weekend as a reward so they can walk to the beer tent after a hard fought game. if you want the experience of playing under the bright lights, it should be earned.
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| johnnyboy
November 30, 2012
8:31:49 AM
Entry #: 4018393
| Seyms,
I am with ya about the play in game. I also agree with the atmosphere being fun to play in at crosby and it should be earned. But we need to make sure that the exemption pick does not happen this year, the top teams are the ones who really benefit from it, and it helps them stay at the top. The draft was about helping balance the league. Just keep in mind during those exec meetings.
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| jamie b
November 30, 2012
4:08:45 PM
Entry #: 4018571
| How does the exemption pick only help top teams? Duchess finished 2nd last 2 years ago - ie. not a top team - and won this year. Hence, it helped a bottom team be competitive. Top teams added exempt picks and dropped in the standings. Maybe it's who you're picking...
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| Empress Ruler
December 1, 2012
1:40:17 PM
Entry #: 4018818
| great point Jamie...the league has gotten better with the exemption picks
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| daump
December 3, 2012
8:18:27 PM
Entry #: 4019632
| There's a lot going on in the world and we have the ability to influence it for good- but this does and will not work in our league.
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| johnnyboy
December 5, 2012
9:24:46 AM
Entry #: 4020223
| Jamie,
I did not say that it only benefitted the top teams. I said there was more benefit for them, because if they only need to draft one person and had an exemption pick they would not have to worry about drafting someone who might not be as good of a ball player. Without the exemption pick, it gives the league a chance for more parity.
No one would have looked at the Duchess(grocer) from 2011 and said they should have finished 2nd last that year(do you think you should have been down there). You guys were able to keep your solid core and add 5 great ball players, and you were able to win it all. No offense to the guys that you lost, but they were not the top ball players on your team.
So dont think that it was some miracle that you went from 2nd last to win it all, in one year. You have a solid team through the whole line up.
I agree that you need to look at who you are drafting, I know that a few years ago someone doing the drafting hurt our teams competitiveness, but it is on its way back, we are making strides in the right direction.
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| Seyms
December 5, 2012
10:59:16 AM
Entry #: 4020261
| RE - exemption pick
this argument has merit on both sides, and from listening to much discussion from many in the league, good teams, bad teams, young and old, it is up for debate and im sure it will be in the coming months.
One of the main things that was discussed was numbers in the league, and that guys may not want to join if they could not play on certain teams. While i do understand the desire to play with friends, I dont agree that newcomers in the league should be able to dictate where they want to go. Think about all drafts in professional sports and rookie contracts... unless we are making trades for picks ie Eli manning and Phillip Rivers. Oh and i wonder which franchise benefited in that regard lol
Our team experienced this last year where we finished last and were supposed to have the 1st overall pick in the A and B draft. We essentially got the 19th overall pick ( as a result of the exempt pick) and im not even going to get into the poaching of players and "you cant pick that guy" as he wants to play on our team during the tryouts at the diamond.
My stance would be this:
1- Is there a purpose to the draft if pre-determined decisions are made and the best players aren't in fact available simply because someone isn't "friends" with a class A ballplayer.. if i dont know an MVP like Burton, does that mean i shouldn't have the option to pick him? who knows he might like playing with me, eh burt?
2- if you want to reserve the rights to a player, that can be done for the exempt pick only... if you want to roll the dice and go in the a draft then so be it but its hard for a bad team to get better unless they know people
3- im all for having buddies on a team, as i dont want a disgruntled guy not showing up because he wants to play for the arms or something (just an example Q), but as we saw last year with a buddy of mine who wanted to play on MAS, he got drafted before they had a chance, a fight almost broke out, people were pissed and at the end of the year it didn't matter as fun was had by all and both teams did well... and isn't that the point?
just a few thoughts, respectfully.
always willing to chat ball and make this league even better!!
Seyms
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| Knight
December 6, 2012
6:55:46 AM
Entry #: 4020529
| I believe that Remax did not have a exemption pick this year and was arguably one of the best teams in the league. In fact they were only a few runs away from hoisting the trophy.
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| Seyms
December 6, 2012
11:01:57 AM
Entry #: 4020583
| Remax arguably has been the best team for the last decade winning a ridiculous number of championships over a 10 year span, so maybe they know something that we as a league dont.. they had a great year no doubt but nothing new for them.
i guess my point is that a draft by definition involves a selection from a group or lot of something .. all i am saying is that everyone should have a fair chance at selecting talent.. the exempt pick allows you to bring one buddy on and everyone has this option available to them if they so choose, but once we move into the "draft", shouldn't it be take the "best player available" vs take the "best player that we couldn't take with our exempt pick but want to take because he's a third cousin of my college roommate and i will not be your friend and shoot the box on your pitcher if you take him with your pick that is 7 spots ahead of mine" player?
all i know is that my fantasy draft would be a lot different if i said you cant take corey perry because i played against him when i was 13 even thought you pick before me... and theres some big money on the line as well as bragging rights!
fyi these topics are debatable hence why i like stirring the pot a bit )
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| MBA89
December 8, 2012
9:12:15 AM
Entry #: 4021119
| The exemption pick as I understand it was not a decision, or a choice. It just happened because we needed players. All I can say is, it's the BEST thing that ever happened to this league. The fact that we do not have a dynasty team such as Remax speaks volumes why this two year experiment works. Fact #2: we have had five different winners in the past five years. Fact#3: The two worst teams of 2011 won 14 games that year and were rewarded the first two picks in the draft. They won a combined 31 games in 2012. It all adds up to a GREAT decision. I say do it again this year.
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| Faux
December 10, 2012
9:25:46 PM
Entry #: 4021690
| The team which goes farthest is generally the one who is willing to draft the best players using their crystal ball to find the most appropriate player. The exemption pick does not really help most teams.
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| Birkey
December 12, 2012
7:05:00 AM
Entry #: 4021939
| Talent wins games, but teamwork & intelligence win championships. The answer is 12.12.12. The question was name the wins in 2013 for Arms, Wilson & MAS.
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| Bud Wiser
December 16, 2012
9:59:53 PM
Entry #: 4022845
| I tried to tell people, the exemption pick is the best thing that has happened to this league in years. It only embarrassing for the one or two teams that can't find a player. Let's do it again next year.
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| Purelife
December 19, 2012
12:48:11 AM
Entry #: 4023286
| thumbs up for the exemption pick
thumbs up for the elimination of the cony champ game
thumbs way down for the doubleheader games
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| Seyms
December 19, 2012
11:18:30 AM
Entry #: 4023340
| play in game = get lost
exempt pic = circumvents the draft but sure why not, makes the league better and i dont mind bringing one player onto a team no questions asked
is there any way to eliminate the poaching within the draft and those who say "you cant pick him he's my buddy even though a team picks 5 spots ahead of you"
don't promise your 3 guys you can get them all on the team, im sick and tired of hearing i cant take him he's playing somewhere else... if you want your one ringer, or buddy or whatever that's your exempt pick and you have one!
after that pick its fair game!
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| Jack Wagon
December 21, 2012
4:36:17 PM
Entry #: 4023751
| Exemp pick is a great idea, makes the whole league stronger.
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| Rev Hero
December 26, 2012
7:48:53 PM
Entry #: 4024103
| I agree, the pick before the draft is good for everyone.
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| Click me now
January 3, 2013
1:04:30 AM
Entry #: 4024896
| When you're playing against a stacked team like Duchess, you have to compete even harder. Show the league how much you'll fight for the winners circle. Provide every team with a ringer pick except the previous years champion.
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| LB4LB
January 7, 2013
12:30:25 AM
Entry #: 4025526
| The exemption pick will continue to move this league forward in the right direction.
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| Guy Smiley
January 9, 2013
8:05:26 AM
Entry #: 4026069
| If we can't have the exemption rule we should adopt players as our sons or brothers and force them to play on our team and hit dingers all day long!
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| DeMonti
January 10, 2013
10:08:35 PM
Entry #: 4026561
| We are going to get Canseco to come play on my team with the free pick. We need his veteran presence and knowledge. Jose for mayor!!!!! Your the man.
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| Click me now
February 2, 2013
12:16:10 PM
Entry #: 4030870
| What is the status of the ringer pick?
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| Empress Ruler
February 3, 2013
5:37:15 PM
Entry #: 4031053
| Someone told me it was a done deal.
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| Woodsucks
February 6, 2013
7:02:53 AM
Entry #: 4031526
| A decision needs to be rendered soon, some guys are deciding which league to play in as deadlines to register are becoming a reality.
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| Blumpkin
February 9, 2013
1:21:29 AM
Entry #: 4032121
| It is inexcusable for the league to not announce a decision regrading the exemption pick.
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| Woodsucks
February 13, 2013
10:19:49 PM
Entry #: 4032901
| Spare me. I'm entitled to my opinion and you're entitled to disagree. Do we get the free pick or not?
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| Peatsum
February 16, 2013
2:11:49 PM
Entry #: 4033329
| Guys need to make decisions with other leagues.... we need accurate information on the free pick
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| DeMonti
February 17, 2013
11:18:12 PM
Entry #: 4033519
| I am very Excited to see which teams will pick up some young studs with the ringer pick.
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| Cads 33
February 19, 2013
4:02:46 PM
Entry #: 4033908
| Do we know 100% what days of the week we will be playing ball? Word is out that there has been a change.
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| Click me now
March 29, 2013
9:13:17 AM
Entry #: 4042707
| I am super stoked to be playing in this league for the second straight year. Can't wait to get started playing again! I have a buddy that wants to play on my team. How do I ensure that he makes it on my team?
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| CHRIS L
March 29, 2013
5:19:19 PM
Entry #: 4042795
| Should have finished last the season before to have first pick is the only guarantee!
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| Fureza
March 30, 2013
4:55:23 PM
Entry #: 4042924
| A ringer for everyone is my vote.
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| Faux
March 31, 2013
4:33:41 PM
Entry #: 4043051
| Agreed 100%
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| Mara
April 1, 2013
11:04:22 AM
Entry #: 4043201
| What is the negative side to the exemption, none.
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