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TOPIC: New Divisional Format |
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| Paul Beeston
October 26, 2015
3:24:39 PM
Entry #: 4185417
| Just some food for thought, the league doesn't need much tweaking but wouldn't mind people's views on the following
Since you play teams in your own division twice and the other division once, would it make sense to put the top 9 teams in one division? This will create more competitive games during the season for both ends of the spectrum.
Obviously the play-off format will have to be tweaked as it will be more difficult for teams in the "top" grouping to have a decent record and vice-versa, there will likely be some teams in the bottom grouping with inflated records.
Every year the top three teams from the bottom and the lowest three teams from the top groupings could swap but this is where it gets complicated.
I'm not sold on this idea but would appreciate views.
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| Bigelow
October 26, 2015
7:30:05 PM
Entry #: 4185440
| The playoffs could be the same, top nine in the premier division and the best three in the next division. Great suggestion.
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| Birkey
October 27, 2015
2:47:09 PM
Entry #: 4185520
| The top 9, in the first division make the playoffs, doesn't make any sense.
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| Rockstar81
October 27, 2015
10:07:19 PM
Entry #: 4185553
| Good point. So you can make the playoffs with a 4-21 record?
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| Bud Wiser
October 28, 2015
10:15:40 AM
Entry #: 4185583
| Paul,
How does the draft work?
To the point above a team can have a very weak record and not draft until number 10, does not seem fair.
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| Paul Beeston
October 29, 2015
7:50:03 AM
Entry #: 4185665
| Good question about the draft, and I don't think there is a right answer. I would only add that the draft today is great in theory but hasn't worked for many different reasons.
Obviously, the lowest ranked teams in the "lower" pool would draft first. The real question becomes whether the top ranked teams in the lower pool draft before the lower ranked teams in the top pool.
The reality is there is never usually more than 6 "game-changing" individuals in the draft so they should all be going to the worst teams in theory.
The more pressing question in my mind is whether this idea of grouping the good teams will make the league even more competitive (from a bad point of view) and we'll see even more out-of-town studs being picked up and losing the community-based, family-oriented league we once had.
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| Bigpappi
October 29, 2015
11:30:15 PM
Entry #: 4185756
| No wonder you're retiring Paul. You suggestion has numerous problems and you have no solutions .
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| Ethos71
October 30, 2015
10:01:31 AM
Entry #: 4185782
| The core of your suggestion is to create an ultra-competitive division and a weaker one. This is why I strongly disagree. The draft system works and we have team going from the last to an upper class team in years.
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| Hard Express
October 31, 2015
10:25:25 AM
Entry #: 4185842
| So two years ago a team like Harding would be regulated to a soft division and not be eligible for the playoffs?
They have been in the final four for two straight years, consolation winners I guess.
Why change what have been working for over forthy years?
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| Faux
November 1, 2015
10:28:51 PM
Entry #: 4185930
| Dumb suggestion.
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| Guy Smiley
November 2, 2015
11:12:31 AM
Entry #: 4185944
| This suggestion has no merit, weak at best.
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| Low Key
November 3, 2015
4:29:54 PM
Entry #: 4186036
| It simply does not work
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| Larry))
November 4, 2015
6:55:55 PM
Entry #: 4186144
| Not sure it will work, has numerous holes.
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| Nate_8
November 5, 2015
1:19:58 PM
Entry #: 4186212
| It is a great feeling to beat "a top tier team". Over the years beating one of the best teams gives the boys energy. in the scenario presented that will go away.
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| Paul Beeston
November 6, 2015
9:09:48 AM
Entry #: 4186269
| Firstly, the bad teams can still beat the top tier teams, every team still plays each other at least once, all I'm saying is the better teams play each other twice.
Secondly, this doesn't prohibit Harding for example from making the playoffs, they would have likely finished in the top part of the 'weak' pool which gets them a playoff spot.
I know this isn't perfect and has some minor tweaks to make, I'm throwing this out there for constructive feedback, unfortunately its just the typical guy who doesn't read or understand or just wants to shoot down every idea as stupid that is responding.
It is an idea for the AGM coming up and if you give some thought about it for a couple of weeks maybe we can have a constructive discussion at the agm.
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| LB4LB
November 6, 2015
4:43:05 PM
Entry #: 4186297
| This is what you are asking for Paul
"I can teach swimming lessons but we do not have water for the pool"
Think it through, find solutions to all the concerns that were raised. You can do it.
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| HR Leader
November 7, 2015
9:40:09 AM
Entry #: 4186343
| Random Act Of Kindness Day, let the poor teams in the weaker division win a game.
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| Jets6400
November 8, 2015
1:16:06 AM
Entry #: 4186390
| It may be doable but it needs a few years of serious planing. If it is announced before the season starts we all be conscious of what's going to happen the following year.
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| Carson
November 9, 2015
12:44:58 PM
Entry #: 4186487
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Hi there Mr. B. or who every you are, just became alerted to your suggestion through a mate and found that it is really informative.
I’m going to vote for this starting next year. All quarries must be defined and answered.
Many people will be benefited from your writing.
Cheers!
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| Bigpappi
November 10, 2015
12:06:40 AM
Entry #: 4186544
| Why break with tradition ? What is wrong with the old way?
If someone can really articulate to me why this change would work, please do.
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| JAG28
November 11, 2015
12:17:43 PM
Entry #: 4186625
| Big Pappi – when you become Old Pappi you may like to play in a less competitive league – before you go to the Masters.
And for the young ones – who are not home run hitters – they may also like to play in a less competitive league.
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| Sensrule
November 13, 2015
12:17:31 AM
Entry #: 4186733
| Advocates of the old school structure argue that divisional strength ebbs and flows. Since I joined this league in 2007 the three best teams in a league have never come from the same division. So I say leave it be. Doesn’t that make the any tougher to stomach?
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| daump
November 14, 2015
5:23:18 PM
Entry #: 4186830
| It separates the teams more than ever, which in the long run is a huge problem. This is short term selfish thinking.
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| Larry))
November 15, 2015
6:00:04 PM
Entry #: 4186873
| No one seems to have solutions to this suggestion, as stated earlier the holes need to be filled .
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| Knight
November 17, 2015
7:19:13 AM
Entry #: 4186992
| I have sat back and watch this thread evolve without comment. It is clear that a change is not needed. This forum is for all of us to express our opinion, which is fine. When something is not a good enhancement to our league, why do we go about it?
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| Bigelow
November 18, 2015
9:26:47 PM
Entry #: 4187101
| Let's not waste time at the AGM on this topic.
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| Faux
November 19, 2015
11:11:47 PM
Entry #: 4187147
| Agreed, let's have dialogue on appropriate issues that make sense.
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| HR Leader
November 21, 2015
12:03:26 AM
Entry #: 4187205
| It is fine, do not change.
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| 400 Tab
November 22, 2015
9:26:52 PM
Entry #: 4187278
| I just don't get why we would change the division format. Teams win and teams lose. They move up and down. The old Markham league dispersed after trying the same thing.
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| Moulton
November 23, 2015
2:59:05 PM
Entry #: 4187334
| Waste of time.
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| Network Man
November 24, 2015
4:48:50 PM
Entry #: 4187424
| Was this discussed last night?
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| Gwat
November 26, 2015
8:19:47 AM
Entry #: 4187500
| Put this puppy to bed, lights out.
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| Brynee
November 27, 2015
2:40:21 PM
Entry #: 4187568
| This is the dumbest post I have ever read on this forum. Change it and I quit
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| Woodsucks
November 30, 2015
9:56:51 AM
Entry #: 4187700
| Put a fork in this one, done like dinner.
Do not discuss anyone.
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| Sensrule
December 2, 2015
10:05:13 AM
Entry #: 4187848
| Turn out the lights.
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| MBA89
December 8, 2015
6:30:00 AM
Entry #: 4188199
| The horse beneath the writer does not have the legs for the journey.
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