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| Designated Walker
March 5, 2026
6:14:57 PM
Entry #: 4361942
| Just cleaning up the thread a bit as I've been reading about the 2026 Power Rankings in a 2025 thread.
Looks like Smash and Baseline have picked up 10 new players each as they've been ranked #1 by fellow thread posters.
If Ralph Ciancio Homes can stay healthy and have people show up consistently, they're my lock for #2. I've also heard they picked up some new players but not a full roster overhaul like Smash and Baseline.
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| HR Leader
March 5, 2026
8:29:00 PM
Entry #: 4361944
| I see you’ve written nothing about Gregory. That’s very very, very curious.
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| Redkel1
March 6, 2026
12:47:48 AM
Entry #: 4361946
| Gregory Designs
Baseline
Slugs
Ralph Homes
McCal
Smash
Crupi
Lifestyle
Cairney
Boston Pizza
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| RRForever
March 6, 2026
8:52:01 AM
Entry #: 4361950
| AGR
Paul Love
NLI
Travel
Garden
Steel
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| Ethos71
March 6, 2026
11:40:02 AM
Entry #: 4361951
| All six teams make the playoffs, who cares where they rank in the preseason chat.
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| Designated Walker
March 6, 2026
5:12:54 PM
Entry #: 4361956
| Hey Barry Bonds
Generally, I don't like talking about teams we're all supposedly chasing. Don't need to give them more attention as I don't really care to. But since you care so much, I got them at #3 (or #4 if the #s really bother you). Their new adds don't make up for what they're losing
1A - Baseline
1B - Smash
2 - RC Homes
3 - Gregory
Let's see if I've angered the beast...or maybe at least got their interest...
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| Jets6400
March 6, 2026
6:16:42 PM
Entry #: 4361957
| Get Mr. Walker a reality check.
Only Gregory on his list knows how to win the others are pretenders.
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| Canthit10
March 7, 2026
1:58:21 AM
Entry #: 4361960
| Gregory…. McCalmont.…Baseline…. Sluggers….. BP.….RC Homes….Smash.
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| Azzuri
March 7, 2026
6:42:33 AM
Entry #: 4361961
| TAND
Garden
NLI
Love
AGR
SB
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| Green Balls
March 7, 2026
9:14:36 AM
Entry #: 4361962
| Masters
1 Love
2 AGR
3 NLI
4 S B
5 Garden
6 Travel
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| Rev Hero
March 7, 2026
5:05:19 PM
Entry #: 4361966
| Peace and love to all who are allowed to play in this marvellous league.
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| Anchor
March 8, 2026
10:40:56 AM
Entry #: 4361970
| I don’t believe anyone that write they’re not worried about Team Gregory. They have beat the crap out of all of us over the past years.
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| eKQ-base
March 8, 2026
8:03:17 PM
Entry #: 4361975
| Only the Baseline Bandits have a real chance of beating the Gregory Dodgers.
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| silverfox
March 9, 2026
5:18:01 AM
Entry #: 4361980
| We will not have a repeat champion this year.
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| Wahl
March 9, 2026
4:06:22 PM
Entry #: 4361986
| Which division will not repeat?
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| 4545PB
March 9, 2026
7:02:00 PM
Entry #: 4361990
| Base, Greg, Smash and Ralph will be in the final four. I have determined that the skills of Greg, Smash, Ralph, and Base are ready to conquer the challenging season ahead.
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| Designated Walker
March 10, 2026
7:51:19 AM
Entry #: 4361997
| Sleeper pick... McCalmont.
Finalists in 2025. They work quietly behind the scenes but can make noise with their bats.
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| Woak1
March 10, 2026
8:21:24 AM
Entry #: 4361998
| McCalmont has won that division in the last two years, they are easily the beast of the junior masters division.
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| NOsball-Joy
March 10, 2026
2:30:02 PM
Entry #: 4362004
| The same team won the championship in 2023, 2024, and 2025. But in 2026, a new team will step in—ready to cover all the bases. Stay tuned and stay in line.
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| Calculated_Gamble
March 10, 2026
3:05:33 PM
Entry #: 4362005
| McCalmont has finished as finalists in playoffs and regular season in the Open Division for the past couple of years. Don't sleep on the black and green... Based of Walker's comments, looks like the mantle is prime for the taking with Gregory's departing players.. Doesn't sound like they added enough.
McCalmont
GD
Smash
Baseline
Slugs
Ralph C
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| Sball_is_fun
March 11, 2026
11:31:44 AM
Entry #: 4362009
| Gregory also won it all in 2022 but who's counting. I too get forgetful when there is NOsball in the winter and pray that I will find the Joy in summer once again.
However, I too am optimistic one of the up and coming teams can dethrone the big red machine. I hope Smash, Baseline, McCalmont, and the young whippersnapper sluggernaut boys do not let me down once again.
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| Harry Ups
March 11, 2026
8:31:53 PM
Entry #: 4362012
| The usual teams are back in the forum, but keep an eye out for a fresh, revitalized squad ready to make waves this season.
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| miknuj@
March 12, 2026
11:34:21 AM
Entry #: 4362015
| In May the travel guys will be strong and unbeatable but the green team will get active and NIAL other teams. We need Love to Steel a few wins. The Garden will flourish in September. Done!
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| Dublinxx
March 12, 2026
2:49:43 PM
Entry #: 4362017
| 1 Previous Champs
2 On-Site
3 Smash
4 Slugger
5 Loaded
6 Baseline
7 Symmetry
9 Homes
9 Boston Pizza
10 McCalmont
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| Birkey
March 13, 2026
6:45:51 AM
Entry #: 4362021
| I believe the calendar still indicates March therefore, it is unclear why we are attempting to predict the winners of divisions.
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| MBA98
March 13, 2026
12:34:03 PM
Entry #: 4362022
| Surprises can act as a spotlight. They draw our attention to what we value, where we may feel exposed, and what deserves protection. The key is standing on solid ground, supported by thoughtful decisions and steady habits, where surprises are far less likely to knock you off balance. Hence we chat, read and try to comprehend what other teams have done in the offseason.
So forecast and predict all spring, May is around the corner.
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| Bud Wiser
March 14, 2026
11:48:21 AM
Entry #: 4362024
| Gregory, Smash, Slugs, Baseline, McCal and Syms to top up the best six teams in 2026.
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| Hat0man
March 15, 2026
12:43:25 AM
Entry #: 4362027
| Ralph Ciancio Homes will win fewer than 10 games, while Gregory will win more than 10 games.
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| Eau55
March 15, 2026
10:11:45 AM
Entry #: 4362028
| AGR will go 14-10-1
NLI will go 12-9-4
PL will go 17-7-1
TAND will go 6-15-4
GCP will go 16-8-1
SB will go 3-20-2
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| Redkel1
March 15, 2026
2:59:18 PM
Entry #: 4362030
| Since we are playing this game now
Gregory Designs 24 wins
Baseline 20 wins
Slugs 20 wins
Ralph Homes 18 wins
McCal 15 wins
Smash 13 wins
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| NOsball-Joy
March 15, 2026
7:58:11 PM
Entry #: 4362031
| Have another one, only 24 wins for Gregory?
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| Woodsucks
March 16, 2026
4:40:27 PM
Entry #: 4362042
| I predict 5 times with 16 or more wins.
Smash
Base
Lifestyles
Gregory
Slugs
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| 8be8
March 18, 2026
12:54:59 AM
Entry #: 4362055
| Winners of 12 or more games……,
Smash
Gregory
McCalmont
Sluggers
Loaded
Baseline
Litestyle
Cairney
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| FlexHemp
March 18, 2026
1:38:06 PM
Entry #: 4362058
| These two teams will not win ten or more games this year, Active and Travel.
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| Bigelow
March 18, 2026
3:17:20 PM
Entry #: 4362059
| Crupi and The School will not win twelve games this season.
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| Azzuri
March 19, 2026
6:49:53 PM
Entry #: 4362068
| The Graden Group will win more than 16 matches this season.
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| Purelife
March 20, 2026
2:42:45 PM
Entry #: 4362075
| Every team will enjoy the thrill of playing in this spectacular league. With a win or with a loss.
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| Cheers&More
March 21, 2026
12:14:16 PM
Entry #: 4362078
| This is the year of Travel going to the top.
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| NOsball-Joy
March 22, 2026
8:23:35 AM
Entry #: 4362087
| Facing the formidable Gregory is truly an adrenaline rush. Just last year, no one foresaw the Jays making it to the World Series and battling through Game 7. A long season, full of surprises, can bring anything to life!
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| eKQ-base
March 22, 2026
6:59:28 PM
Entry #: 4362093
| Team with over 20 wins, Gregory and Baseline
Teams with over 15 wins, Ralph and Slugs
Teams with over 10 wins, Smash and McCalmont
Team with over 18 losses, Crupi and Poolies
Team with over 15 losses, BP and Cairney
Teams with over 12 losses, Symmetry and School
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| silverfox
March 23, 2026
7:53:09 AM
Entry #: 4362096
| Regular season results
Love
Active
NLI
Travel
Steel
Garden
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| Wahl
March 23, 2026
10:35:08 AM
Entry #: 4362097
| Every team has improved, or so they say, reality is different.
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| Sultan of the swing
March 23, 2026
3:15:05 PM
Entry #: 4362100
| SB, Paul Love, Travel, AGR, NLI and Garden, in that order.
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| 8be8
March 23, 2026
7:28:04 PM
Entry #: 4362103
| I love that we get to write these prognostications in March, we need to scroll back in September and read out the Kings of Predications. Here we go!
Too much love for Ralph Ciancio Homes, they are average.
Baseline Sports will do damage in the regular season but then fall apart in September.
McCalmont Financial and Smash Bros are too young to win consistently.
Symmetry Physio and Boston Pizza will take large steps in gameplay.
Gregory Designs and Slugenaughts will play in the finals.
Eveyone other team will remain the same as the 2025 season.
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| 4545PB
March 24, 2026
9:57:01 PM
Entry #: 4362113
| In the 2025 season, the competitive landscape of the league demonstrated significant parity. Notably:
- Only two teams achieved more than 20 wins.
- Four teams finished the season with fewer than 10 wins.
- A mere 10 points differentiated a concerning group of 10 teams in the standings.
- Additionally, seven teams registered over 10 wins.
These statistics highlight the balance and unpredictability present in the league.
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| Moilton
March 25, 2026
12:05:40 PM
Entry #: 4362116
| Interesting analysis of last year's wins, a lot closer than I thought.
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| The Secret
March 26, 2026
11:08:59 AM
Entry #: 4362121
| Travel Agent Next Door
PAUL Love
Active Green & Ross
NLI
Garden Group
Steel Built
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| Hellenistic
March 27, 2026
4:07:28 PM
Entry #: 4362129
| Baseline, Smash, Gregory and Sluggers in the final four.
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| Gains
March 29, 2026
6:12:49 AM
Entry #: 4362135
| Look at what happened last year in the Masters division. Anything can happen.
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| Cashman
March 29, 2026
9:13:38 PM
Entry #: 4362141
| A surprising upset is expected to occur in the Tuesday league, leading to the emergence of a new champion.
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| Wis-dom
March 30, 2026
11:41:21 AM
Entry #: 4362145
| Steel Built will twopeat.
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| E eccezionale
March 30, 2026
5:04:10 PM
Entry #: 4362151
| I can guarantee you that SB will not win.
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| Brusher2001
March 30, 2026
6:57:08 PM
Entry #: 4362152
| Same thought here, no twopaets for team Gregory.
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| Peatsum
April 1, 2026
1:00:19 AM
Entry #: 4362161
| Who can beat Gregory….. nobody.
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| CB- dog
April 1, 2026
12:27:45 PM
Entry #: 4362169
| Poolies win it all this year.
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| Anchor
April 2, 2026
8:12:15 AM
Entry #: 4362172
| This post above must have have been a weak attempt at a April fools day joke.
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| Mike&Mike
April 2, 2026
9:17:02 PM
Entry #: 4362178
| 1 Previous Champs
2 On Site
3 Smashers
4 Slugger
5 Ralph C
6 The School
7 Symmetry
9 Cairney Homes
9 Boston Pizza
10 McCalmont
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| Braggiee
April 3, 2026
5:38:20 PM
Entry #: 4362182
| As we convene over the weekend, we would like to commence by extending our wishes for a Happy Easter and a meaningful Passover—an occasion for reflection, renewal, and unity with family, friends, and good fellowship.
Regarding nourishment, many of us have probably pondered the amount of food required to enhance our performance as a team. The appropriate response is to decelerate the pace of the game.
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| JAG 28
April 4, 2026
9:26:55 PM
Entry #: 4362187
| Brager, ya that's exactly what I was thinking about - how much food should I eat to improve my game.
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| Braggiee
April 6, 2026
7:18:09 AM
Entry #: 4362191
| Is there really a need for sarcasm? I was just given a different perspective on here.
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| Victory Yea
April 7, 2026
8:42:09 AM
Entry #: 4362198
| AGR
Love
NLI
Travel
Steel
Garden
AGR beats Travel in the championship game.
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| Ethos71
April 8, 2026
6:02:16 AM
Entry #: 4362206
| Active needs to retool to compete effectively in a rapidly evolving competitive division.
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| LB4LB
April 9, 2026
6:16:34 PM
Entry #: 4362213
| How can any team best Gregory?
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| Designated scorer
April 10, 2026
4:15:32 PM
Entry #: 4362218
| Score one more run than them. Then you get the W.
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| HR Leader
April 11, 2026
11:49:14 AM
Entry #: 4362219
| If you are playing against Team Gregory remember this…….
Over-thinking demolishes your ability to hit!
You must have a smart approach, but —> DON’T OVER-THINK!
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| Larham
April 12, 2026
5:17:26 PM
Entry #: 4362230
| Please be informed that the following results are expected to be available by September:
1. Baseline
2. Smash
3. Gregory
4. McCalmont
5. On Site
6. Sluggers
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| TiresRus
April 13, 2026
6:43:20 AM
Entry #: 4362234
| Always Game Ready is the dedicated operational mode of AGR for this season, ensuring peak performance and readiness in all competitive scenarios.
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| Moulton
April 13, 2026
1:25:47 PM
Entry #: 4362236
| NLI
Not Lousy Incorporated.
Or
Now Long Incredible.
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| JAG 28
April 13, 2026
7:31:19 PM
Entry #: 4362239
| NLI how about Never Look Intelligent.
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| 8be8
April 15, 2026
12:08:42 AM
Entry #: 4362256
| not sure why the Baseline team gets so much love in here based on what
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| Tuyuvu
April 16, 2026
5:20:25 PM
Entry #: 4362262
| The Baseline team is expected to receive significant recognition this season due to their remarkable improvement. Predictions suggest that they will exceed sixteen wins before August 6.
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| eKQ-base
April 18, 2026
1:45:22 PM
Entry #: 4362267
| Only a few teams will win more than fifteen games.
they are,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Gregory
Ralph
Slugernaughts
Smas
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| In Telle
April 20, 2026
5:45:56 PM
Entry #: 4362275
| - Gregory
- Symmetry
- McCalmont
- Sluggers
- Smash
- RC Homes
- Lifestyle
- Cairney
- Baseline
- On Site
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| SoGood
April 21, 2026
4:37:12 PM
Entry #: 4362283
| At this moment, none of these predictions carries much weight or significance.
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| Victory Yea
April 23, 2026
7:05:37 AM
Entry #: 4362304
| These prediction chats at the end of the season drive our engine and serve to verify the intelligence posts with certainty.
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| bugatti
April 27, 2026
11:25:47 AM
Entry #: 4362328
| First place - Active Green and Ross
- Paul Love
- Garden
- NLI
- Travel
- Steel Built
- New Team
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| Woodsucks
April 29, 2026
5:18:44 PM
Entry #: 4362344
| Well, this may be a diffacult task to guess on the improvments of certian teams. I think that we had a major fluke with SB win last year, so I am going with NLI to win it all.
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| Braggiee
April 30, 2026
8:01:36 PM
Entry #: 4362349
| This year is likely to bring significant changes in the competitive landscape, as emerging contenders are expected to challenge and potentially surpass the established leaders in the open division.
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| silverfox
May 2, 2026
6:10:02 AM
Entry #: 4362354
| One thing for I’m sure, steel belt won’t repeat as champions
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| Azzuri
May 4, 2026
1:29:29 PM
Entry #: 4362377
| Graden
Love
Steel
NLI
Travel
Active
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| JAG 28
May 4, 2026
4:44:05 PM
Entry #: 4362381
| Assuri, I think you have your list upside down.
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| Yarbs22
May 5, 2026
5:12:42 PM
Entry #: 4362390
| Gregory, Baseline, BP, Smash, McCalmont, Ralph, On Site and Lifestyle will be the final 8.
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| Empress Ruler
May 6, 2026
1:18:29 PM
Entry #: 4362393
| You got 7 out of 8 correct.
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| Real Koogs
May 12, 2026
5:17:06 PM
Entry #: 4362414
| Gregory Designs
Baseline
Slugs
McCalmont
Smash Bros
Lifestyle
Cairney
On Site
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| Canthit10
May 14, 2026
5:57:35 AM
Entry #: 4362428
| Are we judging teams based on results after one week?
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| Canthit10
May 14, 2026
5:57:52 AM
Entry #: 4362429
| Are we judging teams based on results after one week?
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| Canthit10
May 14, 2026
5:58:39 AM
Entry #: 4362430
| Are we judging teams based on results after one week?
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| eKQ-base
May 16, 2026
8:46:28 AM
Entry #: 4362445
| It seems Baseline's season got off to a rocky start, with plenty of hype but little substance. Poor pitching and inconsistent performance could spell trouble ahead.
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| Canthit10
May 17, 2026
2:34:18 PM
Entry #: 4362454
| Can any team with a strong defence and strategic hitting defeat Gregory in a high-stakes match?
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| Hellenistic
May 20, 2026
5:03:20 PM
Entry #: 4362463
| Team Ralph Ciancio possesses an abundance of skills and talents that significantly exceed the expectations for a team in the B division. Their capabilities are so remarkable that they seem almost disproportionate to the level at which they currently compete.
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| Green Balls
May 25, 2026
5:04:54 AM
Entry #: 4362484
| Too much chatter for AGR here no Love for the realty team.
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| Dublinxx
May 28, 2026
6:53:43 PM
Entry #: 4362515
| 1 Previous Champs
2 School
3 Smash
4 Slugger
5 Ralph
6 Baseline
7 Crupi
9 Homes
9 Boston Pizza
10 McCalmont
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| bugatti
May 30, 2026
7:47:56 AM
Entry #: 4362518
| Garden
Travel
Active
New team
NLi
Love
Steel
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| 8be88
May 31, 2026
4:22:16 PM
Entry #: 4362521
| Smash is unquestionably the top team in this league, consistently demonstrating superior skill. The upcoming results will clearly showcase their dominance and validate their reputation.
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| 4545PB
June 1, 2026
5:54:53 PM
Entry #: 4362526
| Can't agree with you entirely. They have their moments, but they don't smash opponents.
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| eKQ-base
June 3, 2026
1:29:06 AM
Entry #: 4362532
| Typo alert. I might be losing it, but did Gregory really lose a game, or is it just my perception?
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| Anchor
June 3, 2026
8:22:49 AM
Entry #: 4362534
| Look at the standings….. only one team is undefeated.
Now I am shocked, it is not Gregory.
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| NOsball-Joy
June 3, 2026
5:19:59 PM
Entry #: 4362537
| Gregory Designs with a L
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| Woodsucks
June 5, 2026
10:13:04 AM
Entry #: 4362540
| I will have to rethink Smash over 16 wins. I could be wrong.
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| Blister P
June 6, 2026
3:45:32 PM
Entry #: 4362542
| I am surprised that this forum has not experienced significant chirping about Team Gregory. One loss and a draw represent approximately three years' worth of setbacks.
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| Azzuri
June 7, 2026
8:46:29 PM
Entry #: 4362544
| What about the garden group 0 I’ll write it again zero wins so far this year.
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| Eau55
June 8, 2026
12:40:06 PM
Entry #: 4362550
| The Garden fellas will have over 15 wins by the end of the year.
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| TSFD
June 9, 2026
11:12:55 PM
Entry #: 4362554
| Updated Ranking…..,,
School
Gregory
Baseline
McCalmont
Slugs
Smash
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| TSFD
June 9, 2026
11:13:15 PM
Entry #: 4362555
| Updated Ranking…..,,
School
Gregory
Baseline
McCalmont
Slugs
Smash
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| Dublinxx
June 10, 2026
2:31:04 PM
Entry #: 4362559
| 1 Gregory, despite recent history
2 Smash
3 Baseline
4 Slugger
5 Ralph
6 School
7 Crupi
9 Homes
9 Boston Pizza
10 McCalmont
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| Birkey
June 12, 2026
5:33:50 AM
Entry #: 4362563
| This year, there seems to be a high level of parity present in the seniors division, with numerous close games and exaggerated performances showcasing power and skill.
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| Real Koogs
June 13, 2026
9:37:49 PM
Entry #: 4362570
| Gregory Designs
Baseline
Slugs
McCalmont
Smash Bros
School
Cairney
On Site
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| Samson S
June 13, 2026
11:29:55 PM
Entry #: 4362571
| Time is a sort of river of passing events, and strong is its current no sooner is a thing brought to sight than it is swept away and another takes its place.
Such as it is said, and such as it is with Gregory. Nothing lasts forever.....
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| Canthit10
June 14, 2026
6:11:34 PM
Entry #: 4362575
| Gregory…. McCalmont.…Loaded…. Sluggers….. School.….Baseline….Smash.
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| Yarbs22
June 16, 2026
5:32:42 AM
Entry #: 4362581
| These Gregory guys are exceptional individuals known for their humility regardless of whether they achieve a win or a loss in their games, and more people need to be like them.
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| eKQ-base
June 16, 2026
4:56:12 PM
Entry #: 4362587
| Team Gegory players seem to have been raised with exceptional values, evident in their humility and kind demeanor.
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| 8be8
June 17, 2026
6:06:58 PM
Entry #: 4362592
| They (Gregory Boys) are exceptional humans on and off the field.
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| Real Koogs
June 19, 2026
7:48:37 AM
Entry #: 4362597
| They are nice guys but exceptional athletes when it comes to this sport.
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| TSFD
June 22, 2026
1:58:20 PM
Entry #: 4362613
| based on recent results...................top six teams
School
Gregory
Baseline
Slug
Mccalmont
Smash
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| Designated Talker
June 26, 2026
3:06:15 PM
Entry #: 4362626
| Top 10
Gregory
Baseline
McCalmont
School
Smash
Pool
Sluggernaughts
Onside
Crupi
Ralph Ciancio
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| Woodsucks
June 29, 2026
11:02:05 AM
Entry #: 4362638
| Gregory…School… Baseline… Slugs… are the top four.
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| Koolll8
July 2, 2026
2:42:08 PM
Entry #: 4362648
| Look like another Gregory/McCalmont championship!
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| ParAvion
July 5, 2026
6:37:25 PM
Entry #: 4362656
| REAL contenders are
Gregory, McCal, Baseline and Smash
REAL pretenders are
Slugs, Homes, Onsite and Lifestyle
INFLATED record and going nowhere
Crupi, School, Poolies
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| Gone Fishzing
July 6, 2026
6:24:25 PM
Entry #: 4362667
| I concur with the final statement in the post above, but I'm confident that a B team will dominate and win it all this year.
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| Bud Wiser
July 8, 2026
10:01:54 AM
Entry #: 4362680
| Hey Koolll8
How do you arrive at the Greg/McCal chsmpionship game?
I would bet the house that your assessment is far from reality.
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| Koolll8
July 12, 2026
8:44:35 PM
Entry #: 4362723
| Look at history, it does repeat itself.
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| TSFD
July 15, 2026
6:37:42 AM
Entry #: 4362729
| The School will be fine dining on everyone on the way to the ship. Best on that.
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| Eden-xy
July 16, 2026
8:31:00 PM
Entry #: 4362736
| Has Team School truly faced any formidable opponents? The answer is a resounding no.
They are likely to be overwhelmed by the powerful performances of teams like Gregory, Smash, and Baseline. The upcoming matches could prove to be a tough challenge for them, and it's hard to see how they will hold their ground against such strong competition.
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| Eau55
July 18, 2026
6:53:49 AM
Entry #: 4362738
| Not sure about the School team. In our division, we might have the same type of team because Team Paul love seriously lacks leadership and only have maybe two good players.
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| Mike&Mike
July 19, 2026
8:17:39 PM
Entry #: 4362743
| 1 Previous Champs
2 Poolies
3 Smashers
4 Slugger
5 Ralph C
6 The School
7 Symmetry
9 Cairney Homes
9 Boston Pizza
10 McCalmont
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| Ethos71
July 21, 2026
6:47:38 AM
Entry #: 4362747
| Looks like AGR slayed the dragon twice last night.
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| TSFD
July 22, 2026
2:50:04 PM
Entry #: 4362758
| Team School is the class of the league, barely losing out to the former mighty Gregory.
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| Anchor
July 23, 2026
11:06:04 PM
Entry #: 4362773
| You are very naive, lacking experience and understanding of the complexities involved.
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